Anglo - Welsh cup this weekend.

[twitchy]

If any one is interested in watching simmond's little brother.

[Beasties]

Yaaay, Kvesic gets a game

[Puja]

Maunder back from injury!

Puja

[Banquo]

If Stephenson is fit, I hope he can get some 1st team games soon, ditto Craig.

The respective Hills have fallen off the radar, like Devoto, all have been in eddie squads

[Puja]

Leicester Tigers (v Gloucester Rugby, Welford Road, Saturday 3.00pm)

15 Atieli Pakalani

14 Jonah Holmes

13 George Worth

12 Charlie Thacker

11 Adam Thompstone

10 Joe Ford (c)

9 Harry Simmons

1 Kyle Traynor

2 George McGuigan

3 Pat Cilliers

4 Harry Wells

5 Dan Tuohy

6 Sam Lewis

7 Will Evans

8 Fred Tuilagi

Replacements

16 Jake Kerr

17 Ben Betts

18 Chris Baumann

19 Joe Maksymiw

20 Tom Reffell

21 Ben White

22 Tom Hardwick

23 Jordan Olowofela

Gloucester Rugby: 15 Carwyn Penny, 14 Tom Seabrook, 13 Andy Symons, 12 Tom Hudson, 11 Elliott Creed, 10 Lloyd Evans, 9 Ben Vellacott; 1 Paddy McAllister, 2 James Hanson, 3 Gareth Denman, 4 Charlie Beckett (c), 5 Freddie Clarke, 6 Ross Moriarty, 7 Jake Polledri, 8 Gareth Evans

Replacements: 16 Henry Walker, 17 Cameron Orr, 18 Jack Bartlett, 19 Callum Allen, 20 Will Safe, 21 Callum Braley, 22 Charlie Chapman, 23 Reece Dunn

[Banquo]

Leicester Tigers (v Gloucester Rugby, Welford Road, Saturday 3.00pm)

15 Atieli Pakalani

14 Jonah Holmes

13 George Worth

12 Charlie Thacker

11 Adam Thompstone

10 Joe Ford (c)

9 Harry Simmons

1 Kyle Traynor

2 George McGuigan

3 Pat Cilliers

4 Harry Wells

5 Dan Tuohy

6 Sam Lewis

7 Will Evans

8 Fred Tuilagi

Replacements

16 Jake Kerr

17 Ben Betts

18 Chris Baumann

19 Joe Maksymiw

20 Tom Reffell

21 Ben White

22 Tom Hardwick

23 Jordan Olowofela

Gloucester Rugby: 15 Carwyn Penny, 14 Tom Seabrook, 13 Andy Symons, 12 Tom Hudson, 11 Elliott Creed, 10 Lloyd Evans, 9 Ben Vellacott; 1 Paddy McAllister, 2 James Hanson, 3 Gareth Denman, 4 Charlie Beckett (c), 5 Freddie Clarke, 6 Ross Moriarty, 7 Jake Polledri, 8 Gareth Evans

Replacements: 16 Henry Walker, 17 Cameron Orr, 18 Jack Bartlett, 19 Callum Allen, 20 Will Safe, 21 Callum Braley, 22 Charlie Chapman, 23 Reece Dunn

What is croft up to?

[fivepointer]

Sundays live match.

Saracens

15 Nathan Earle,
14 Alistair Crossdale,
13 Matt Gallagher,
12 Nick Tompkins,
11 Mike Ellery,
10 Max Malins,
9 Tom Whiteley, 1 Richard Barrington,
2 Christopher Tolofua,
3 Kieran Longbottom, 4 Will Skelton,
5 Danny Cutmore,
6 Jack Nay,
7 Joel Conlon,
8 Ben Earl (c).

Replacements: 16 Tadgh McElroy, 17 Hayden Thompson-Stringer,
18 Billy Walker,
19 Scott Spurling,
20 Sean Reffell,
21 Alex Gilksten,
22 Rueben Bird-Tulloch,
23 Rotimi Segun.


Harlequins

15 Ross Chisholm, 14 Charlie Walker, 13 Harry Sloan, 12 James Lang, 11 Alofa Alofa, 10 Tim Swiel, 9 Charlie Mulchrone (vc), 1 Lewis Boyce, 2 Elia Elia, 3 Phil Swainston, 4 Ben Glynn, 
5 Charlie Matthews, 6 James Chisholm (c), 7 Archie White, 8 Dino Lamb.

Replacements: 16 Charlie Piper, 17 Mark Lambert, 18 Josh McNulty, 19 George Merrick, 20 John Okafor, 21 Dave Lewis, 22 Henry Cheeseman, 23 Gabriel Ibitoye.

[Banquo]

Sundays live match.

Saracens

15 Nathan Earle,
14 Alistair Crossdale,
13 Matt Gallagher,
12 Nick Tompkins,
11 Mike Ellery,
10 Max Malins,
9 Tom Whiteley, 1 Richard Barrington,
2 Christopher Tolofua,
3 Kieran Longbottom, 4 Will Skelton,
5 Danny Cutmore,
6 Jack Nay,
7 Joel Conlon,
8 Ben Earl (c).

Replacements: 16 Tadgh McElroy, 17 Hayden Thompson-Stringer,
18 Billy Walker,
19 Scott Spurling,
20 Sean Reffell,
21 Alex Gilksten,
22 Rueben Bird-Tulloch,
23 Rotimi Segun.


Harlequins

15 Ross Chisholm, 14 Charlie Walker, 13 Harry Sloan, 12 James Lang, 11 Alofa Alofa, 10 Tim Swiel, 9 Charlie Mulchrone (vc), 1 Lewis Boyce, 2 Elia Elia, 3 Phil Swainston, 4 Ben Glynn, 
5 Charlie Matthews, 6 James Chisholm (c), 7 Archie White, 8 Dino Lamb.

Replacements: 16 Charlie Piper, 17 Mark Lambert, 18 Josh McNulty, 19 George Merrick, 20 John Okafor, 21 Dave Lewis, 22 Henry Cheeseman, 23 Gabriel Ibitoye.

I'd forgotten Conlon, has he been crocked?

[fivepointer]

Wasps

15 Owain James,
14 Aaron O’Sullivan,
13 Brendan Macken,
12 Juan de Jongh,
11 Guy Armitage,
10 Rob Miller,
9 Craig Hampson, 1 Ben Harris,
2 Gabriel Oghre,
3 Marty Moore,
4 Marcus Garratt,
5 James Gaskell (c), 6 Jack Willis,
7 James Haskell,
8 Tom Willis.

Replacements: 16 Antonio (TJ) Harris,
17 Paul Doran-Jones,
18 Will Stuart,
19 Guy Borrowdale,
20 James Seabrook,
21 Will Porter,
22 Connor Eastgate,
23 Jacob Umaga.


Newcastle Falcons

15 Cameron Cowell,
14 Adam Radwan,
13 Charlie Wilson,
12 Maxime Mermoz,
11 Belisario Agulla,
10 Craig Willis,
9 Michael Young, 1 Sami Mavinga,
2 Santiago Socino,
3 Scott Wilson,
4 Will Witty,
5 Andrew Davidson,
6 Ryan Burrows (c),
7 Gary Graham,
8 Callum Chick.

Replacements: 16 Ben Sowrey,
17 Trevor Davison,
18 David Wilson,
19 Simon Uzokwe,
20 Glen Young
,21 Ruaridh Dawson,
22 Zach Kibirige,
23 Joel Hodgson.

[Puja]

Sundays live match.

Saracens

15 Nathan Earle,
14 Alistair Crossdale,
13 Matt Gallagher,
12 Nick Tompkins,
11 Mike Ellery,
10 Max Malins,
9 Tom Whiteley, 1 Richard Barrington,
2 Christopher Tolofua,
3 Kieran Longbottom, 4 Will Skelton,
5 Danny Cutmore,
6 Jack Nay,
7 Joel Conlon,
8 Ben Earl (c).

Replacements: 16 Tadgh McElroy, 17 Hayden Thompson-Stringer,
18 Billy Walker,
19 Scott Spurling,
20 Sean Reffell,
21 Alex Gilksten,
22 Rueben Bird-Tulloch,
23 Rotimi Segun.


Harlequins

15 Ross Chisholm, 14 Charlie Walker, 13 Harry Sloan, 12 James Lang, 11 Alofa Alofa, 10 Tim Swiel, 9 Charlie Mulchrone (vc), 1 Lewis Boyce, 2 Elia Elia, 3 Phil Swainston, 4 Ben Glynn, 
5 Charlie Matthews, 6 James Chisholm (c), 7 Archie White, 8 Dino Lamb.

Replacements: 16 Charlie Piper, 17 Mark Lambert, 18 Josh McNulty, 19 George Merrick, 20 John Okafor, 21 Dave Lewis, 22 Henry Cheeseman, 23 Gabriel Ibitoye.

Wait, Earle can play full-back?! That's interesting. Last week was the first time I saw what others seem to see in him, so I'm fascinated to see if it's repeated.

Good to see Crossdale back. That Sarries side is basically full of names I'm interested to see more of - Crossdale, Gallagher, Malins, Nay, Earl, Segun. Their academy is frankly ridiculous.

Puha

[Adam_P]

I'm disappointed Saints aren't starting Grayson at 10. Looking forward to seeing how Furbank goes at fullback, and hoping that Stephenson and Estelles have strong performances that can put them forward for the premiership.

[twitchy]

Maunder back from injury!

Puja

Plus devoto (ewers not to far off either apparently).

[Banquo]

I'm disappointed Saints aren't starting Grayson at 10. Looking forward to seeing how Furbank goes at fullback, and hoping that Stephenson and Estelles have strong performances that can put them forward for the premiership.

I always like what I see of Craig, but suspect he's caught between lock and back row, excelling at neither. Stephenson I had great hopes for.

[Adam_P]

Craig is definitely a lock, just pretty lightweight. He is a good player, plagued by injury much like Stephenson recently.

[Banquo]

Craig is definitely a lock, just pretty lightweight. He is a good player, plagued by injury much like Stephenson recently.

I've seen him do ok at 6, but yes.

[Epaminondas Pules]

Sundays live match.

Saracens

15 Nathan Earle,
14 Alistair Crossdale,
13 Matt Gallagher,
12 Nick Tompkins,
11 Mike Ellery,
10 Max Malins,
9 Tom Whiteley, 1 Richard Barrington,
2 Christopher Tolofua,
3 Kieran Longbottom, 4 Will Skelton,
5 Danny Cutmore,
6 Jack Nay,
7 Joel Conlon,
8 Ben Earl (c).

Replacements: 16 Tadgh McElroy, 17 Hayden Thompson-Stringer,
18 Billy Walker,
19 Scott Spurling,
20 Sean Reffell,
21 Alex Gilksten,
22 Rueben Bird-Tulloch,
23 Rotimi Segun.


Harlequins

15 Ross Chisholm, 14 Charlie Walker, 13 Harry Sloan, 12 James Lang, 11 Alofa Alofa, 10 Tim Swiel, 9 Charlie Mulchrone (vc), 1 Lewis Boyce, 2 Elia Elia, 3 Phil Swainston, 4 Ben Glynn, 
5 Charlie Matthews, 6 James Chisholm (c), 7 Archie White, 8 Dino Lamb.

Replacements: 16 Charlie Piper, 17 Mark Lambert, 18 Josh McNulty, 19 George Merrick, 20 John Okafor, 21 Dave Lewis, 22 Henry Cheeseman, 23 Gabriel Ibitoye.

Wait, Earle can play full-back?! That's interesting. Last week was the first time I saw what others seem to see in him, so I'm fascinated to see if it's repeated.

Good to see Crossdale back. That Sarries side is basically full of names I'm interested to see more of - Crossdale, Gallagher, Malins, Nay, Earl, Segun. Their academy is frankly ridiculous.

Puha

Refell and Bird-Tolluch are really with watching!!

[Stom]

Sundays live match.

Saracens

15 Nathan Earle,
14 Alistair Crossdale,
13 Matt Gallagher,
12 Nick Tompkins,
11 Mike Ellery,
10 Max Malins,
9 Tom Whiteley, 1 Richard Barrington,
2 Christopher Tolofua,
3 Kieran Longbottom, 4 Will Skelton,
5 Danny Cutmore,
6 Jack Nay,
7 Joel Conlon,
8 Ben Earl (c).

Replacements: 16 Tadgh McElroy, 17 Hayden Thompson-Stringer,
18 Billy Walker,
19 Scott Spurling,
20 Sean Reffell,
21 Alex Gilksten,
22 Rueben Bird-Tulloch,
23 Rotimi Segun.


Harlequins

15 Ross Chisholm, 14 Charlie Walker, 13 Harry Sloan, 12 James Lang, 11 Alofa Alofa, 10 Tim Swiel, 9 Charlie Mulchrone (vc), 1 Lewis Boyce, 2 Elia Elia, 3 Phil Swainston, 4 Ben Glynn, 
5 Charlie Matthews, 6 James Chisholm (c), 7 Archie White, 8 Dino Lamb.

Replacements: 16 Charlie Piper, 17 Mark Lambert, 18 Josh McNulty, 19 George Merrick, 20 John Okafor, 21 Dave Lewis, 22 Henry Cheeseman, 23 Gabriel Ibitoye.

Chisholm and Ibitoye fit make losing Yarde seem like a better deal

[Scrumhead]

Sundays live match.

Saracens

15 Nathan Earle,
14 Alistair Crossdale,
13 Matt Gallagher,
12 Nick Tompkins,
11 Mike Ellery,
10 Max Malins,
9 Tom Whiteley, 1 Richard Barrington,
2 Christopher Tolofua,
3 Kieran Longbottom, 4 Will Skelton,
5 Danny Cutmore,
6 Jack Nay,
7 Joel Conlon,
8 Ben Earl (c).

Replacements: 16 Tadgh McElroy, 17 Hayden Thompson-Stringer,
18 Billy Walker,
19 Scott Spurling,
20 Sean Reffell,
21 Alex Gilksten,
22 Rueben Bird-Tulloch,
23 Rotimi Segun.


Harlequins

15 Ross Chisholm, 14 Charlie Walker, 13 Harry Sloan, 12 James Lang, 11 Alofa Alofa, 10 Tim Swiel, 9 Charlie Mulchrone (vc), 1 Lewis Boyce, 2 Elia Elia, 3 Phil Swainston, 4 Ben Glynn, 
5 Charlie Matthews, 6 James Chisholm (c), 7 Archie White, 8 Dino Lamb.

Replacements: 16 Charlie Piper, 17 Mark Lambert, 18 Josh McNulty, 19 George Merrick, 20 John Okafor, 21 Dave Lewis, 22 Henry Cheeseman, 23 Gabriel Ibitoye.

Wait, Earle can play full-back?! That's interesting. Last week was the first time I saw what others seem to see in him, so I'm fascinated to see if it's repeated.

Good to see Crossdale back. That Sarries side is basically full of names I'm interested to see more of - Crossdale, Gallagher, Malins, Nay, Earl, Segun. Their academy is frankly ridiculous.

Puha

Refell and Bird-Tolluch are really with watching!!

I can't say I'm familiar with either, but (even as a Quins fan) I'm looking forward to seeing the Sarries crop.

John Okafor doesn't seem to be massively on the radar, but is highly rated at Quins. Pleased to Chisholm and Sloan starting and good to see Ibitoye on the bench too.

[fivepointer]

Worcester Warriors 21

15 Bryce Heem, 14 Tom Howe, 13 Max Stelling, 12 Will Butler (c), 11 Dean Hammond, 10 Tom Heathcote, 9 Michael Dowsett, 1 Gareth Milasinovich, 2 Beck Cutting, 3 Nick Schonert, 4 Christian Scotland-Williamson, 5 Darren Barry, 6 Huw Taylor, 7 Andrew Durutalo, 8 Tom Dodd.

Replacements: 16 Charlie Jeavons-Fellows, 17 Nick Rigby, 18 Simon Kerrod, 19 Andrew Kitchener, 20 Ted Hill, 21 Luke Baldwin, 22 Sam Olver, 23 Ollie Lawrence.

Sale Sharks 24

15 Luke James, 14 Arron Reed, 13 Will Addison (c), 12 Cameron Redpath , 11 Josh Charnley, 10 AJ MacGinty, 9 Will Cliff, 1 James Flynn, 2 Cameron Neild, 3 Will Griff John, 4 George Nott, 5 Matt Postlethwaite, 6 TJ Ioane, 7 Ben Curry, 8 Sam Moore.

Replacements: 16 Curtis Langdon, 17 Jake Pope, 18 Halani Aulika, 19 David Seymour, 20 Nic Dolly, 21 Matt Sturgess, 22 Kieran Wilkinson, 23 Connor Doherty.

From last night. Quite a few age group players on show. Sale had 2 17 year olds in their squad, Redpath and Doherty.

[Banquo]

Worcester Warriors 21

15 Bryce Heem, 14 Tom Howe, 13 Max Stelling, 12 Will Butler (c), 11 Dean Hammond, 10 Tom Heathcote, 9 Michael Dowsett, 1 Gareth Milasinovich, 2 Beck Cutting, 3 Nick Schonert, 4 Christian Scotland-Williamson, 5 Darren Barry, 6 Huw Taylor, 7 Andrew Durutalo, 8 Tom Dodd.

Replacements: 16 Charlie Jeavons-Fellows, 17 Nick Rigby, 18 Simon Kerrod, 19 Andrew Kitchener, 20 Ted Hill, 21 Luke Baldwin, 22 Sam Olver, 23 Ollie Lawrence.

Sale Sharks 24

15 Luke James, 14 Arron Reed, 13 Will Addison (c), 12 Cameron Redpath , 11 Josh Charnley, 10 AJ MacGinty, 9 Will Cliff, 1 James Flynn, 2 Cameron Neild, 3 Will Griff John, 4 George Nott, 5 Matt Postlethwaite, 6 TJ Ioane, 7 Ben Curry, 8 Sam Moore.

Replacements: 16 Curtis Langdon, 17 Jake Pope, 18 Halani Aulika, 19 David Seymour, 20 Nic Dolly, 21 Matt Sturgess, 22 Kieran Wilkinson, 23 Connor Doherty.

From last night. Quite a few age group players on show. Sale had 2 17 year olds in their squad, Redpath and Doherty.

Nice to see Will Butler skipper Worcester.

[Adam_P]

Sounds bleak on the injury front for Saints, with Craig, Day and Furbank apparently off injured

[fivepointer]

Not a good day for Saints scorewise either, they lost 28-43

Other scores -
Irish 22 Bath 26
Tigers 26 Gloucester 24
Wasps 41 Newcastle 53

[Galfon]

Good to see Simon Uzokwe make his Falcons debut in the Ricoh try-fest.The student international has been a try machine at Darlington and bagged a brace today.
Flanker at the moment, he's come through from playing centre and hooker as a junior. An exciting prospect.

[Puja]

Leicester game was mildly entertaining to watch, although I suspect a lot of that lot may deservedly be plying their trade at Nottingham and London Irish in a few years time, rather than testing England or even Leicester squads. Will Evans was good without being outstanding and definitely needs more first team action. Charlie Thacker was a well deserved MotM but I still can't shake the feeling that he's got nothing outstanding about him. Maybe he'll grow up to be another Matt Smith, which nothing to be sniffed at. Fred Tuilagi is big, but he slows before contact so he doesn't make the best of it and he looked terrified when he found himself in about 20m of space with a 2-on-2. Simmons was okay, but his service was shown up by the speed of White when he came off the bench. I thought Pakalani was a teenager when watching him, but a google tells me he's 28! He's got a lot of rough edges for a 28 year old.

Basically, it was nice to win, but Dusty Hare's return cannot start bearing fruit quickly enough.

Puja

[fivepointer]

The AWC is a souped up A league. And thats a good thing in my book. It gives fringe players, along with promising youngsters, a chance to play on a bigger stage. Its invaluable experience.
Yes, some of the players out this weekend wont make it to the top, or even to play regularly for their clubs. That i dont mind, though. Not every young player will make it, but if a few do then thats something to be encouraged. The fact that a number of our likely u20 side had outings this weekend is i reckon a really good thing.