AI Coming

[Cameo]

Watching the Wales Australia and England Argentina games I think the real thing we are failing to donis get line speed in defence. We often fire ine up who sometimes makes the tackle but both England and Wales get a whole line up

[whatisthejava]

First game out. We will be better next week and then will peak against the Ozzies.

What changes for next week.

Few changes for me
Marfo
Mcinally
Zf
Gray
Toolis
Barclay
Watson
Cdp
Price
Russel
Jones
Dunbar
Jones
Seymore
Hogg

Batti
Turner
Welsh but will be the ed kiwi tight head
Swinson
Bradbury
Pyrgos
Horne
B maquigon. How ever you spell his name.

[whatisthejava]

Think they'll played a fairly simple game against Samoa. Think against the AB I think you will see changes in tactics in defense, keep the grubbers keep the offloads but I think we will see more group tackling to get the all blacks to deck

But it's the all blacks whatever you do u have to keep attacking and hope it comes off

[General Zod]

First game out. We will be better next week and then will peak against the Ozzies.

What changes for next week.

Few changes for me
Marfo
Mcinally
Zf
Gray
Toolis
Barclay
Watson
Cdp
Price
Russel
Jones
Dunbar
Jones
Seymore
Hogg

Batti
Turner
Welsh but will be the ed kiwi tight head
Swinson
Bradbury
Pyrgos
Horne
B maquigon. How ever you spell his name.

Agree with your team.

Not sure I agree with the “rustiness” excuse as being acceptable (not that you’re saying it is - there do seem to be people who agree with it tho). Ireland had the same issue and thumped the boks, wales did okay. We need to be better at that, particularly as we have a tough away game first up in the 6N. On reflection, I think that at 32-10 we made a load of subs and that probably had a fairly significant impact. That and fucking up restarts/ going into contact (when we managed to go into contact) like a bunch of jessies.

[Big D]

ZJRF and CdP into the starting line up.

Bench was mainly poor so a few changes there.
Sutherland, Berghan (truth be told he's been Edinburghs best TH this year), Gilchrist, Hamilton all to come in.

If Horne Jnr was in the squad he'd be in too.

One thing that has started to bother me again. Most of our forwards carry like pussies. Front row, the second rows and back row not named Watson all need to carry better. It is what holds some of them back from reaching that next level.

[Mikey Brown]

We’re just complacent in basically every aspect of play. Ah wel, another few years of gloom it is then.

And yes, what happened to Gray’s carrying. He used to make some really impressive yards.

[whatisthejava]

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One thing that has started to bother me again. Most of our forwards carry like pussies. Front row, the second rows and back row not named Watson all need to carry better. It is what holds some of them back from reaching that next level.

This bugs me,


1 England and Wales generate fast ball by smashing the fuck into contact, Scotland does it by changing the point of contact so the defenders are not in a natural position to jackal. This means the arriving players can get into position quicker and protect the ball.

2 Scotland score lots of tries from quick ball so we don't need forwards carrying to generate quick ball.

Moan about the defense that collapsed with 4 new caps but unless your hiding 15 Pacific Islanders called shug give up on smashing rucks. Trying to play like every other bugger made us lose 17 6N in a row,

since Jonson, cotter and Townsend we are trying to play a faster smarter game. It's not perfect yet but it's definitely the best rugby I have seen in at least 18 years.

[whatisthejava]

And before anyone calls me a cheerleader I really don't like Townsend policy of giving every bugger a cap or 2. Fiji was lost because he allowed far too many changes, some of these guys have to wait their turn as I don't think some guys have kicked on enough as ever few games they are rotated out.

I also don't like the fact we are committing 1-2 guys to a ruck , I think we have to be far more willing to get s forward there faster and make sure we don't lose possession of the ball.

[Cameo]

I think Gray's carrying has also got a little more dynamic since he came back. I view him as someone who always makes a couple of yards but rarely more but I think there are signs of a bit more explosiveness.

Fagerson carried well too yesterday

[Big D]

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One thing that has started to bother me again. Most of our forwards carry like pussies. Front row, the second rows and back row not named Watson all need to carry better. It is what holds some of them back from reaching that next level.

This bugs me,


1 England and Wales generate fast ball by smashing the fuck into contact, Scotland does it by changing the point of contact so the defenders are not in a natural position to jackal. This means the arriving players can get into position quicker and protect the ball.

2 Scotland score lots of tries from quick ball so we don't need forwards carrying to generate quick ball.

Moan about the defense that collapsed with 4 new caps but unless your hiding 15 Pacific Islanders called shug give up on smashing rucks. Trying to play like every other bugger made us lose 17 6N in a row,

since Jonson, cotter and Townsend we are trying to play a faster smarter game. It's not perfect yet but it's definitely the best rugby I have seen in at least 18 years.

I am not suggesting we go head on into the opposition, which sometimes every team has to do by the way. Our carrying can be much more purposeful than it is. It is possible to carry hard and avoid contact. Also part of carrying hard is when you do take contact, take it on your terms, getting down and good ball presentation. Even when we get good ball it could be quicker with good presentation. Our 9s seem to spend a lot of time digging for the ball.

[whatisthejava]

The 9s digging for the ball is the result of the arriving players, not the ball carrier, Scotland opted to put 1-2 in the breakdown so we didn't get clean ball every time although Scotland seems to want more options after the breakdown so there are more targets for the defense and hopefully we get through.

[Mikey Brown]

Welsh called up. Good shout.

Nel, Swinson and Harley ruled out. Seymour toe injury being assessed.

Very worrying.

[hugh_woatmeigh]

Well deserved for Welsh. One of the best available props given the crisis. Would have him in the 23.

[whatisthejava]

Yeah , Welsh has needed to wait his time but he should at least make it on the bench just so Zander isnt flogged like a pony

Swinson is a loss, I presume Cummings is next in line, personally i think he would raise to the challenge against the all blacks if he was brought on with 20 to go

Think Harley is behind Bradbury who i think coming on with 20 to go would do well

[Big D]

Wouldn't be surprised to see Berghan and Gilchrist on the bench. They've performed pretty well for Edinburgh.

It's going to be hard for Welsh to make an impact in the 2-3 sessions he'll have this week.

Cummings time will come. But I'd opt for the experience Gilchrist brings.

Harley would be behind every back row in the squad for me.

[Mikey Brown]

Anybody tempted by Horne at 12? Would we just be too light/passive?

Also, how good was MacInally? I struggled to watch two games at once at the weekend. I've felt he had a lot of promise for a long time. He certainly did well with the two tries and looked solid in the scrum, was it better than we might have got from Ford or Brown?

[Big D]

Anybody tempted by Horne at 12? Would we just be too light/passive?

Also, how good was MacInally? I struggled to watch two games at once at the weekend. I've felt he had a lot of promise for a long time. He certainly did well with the two tries and looked solid in the scrum, was it better than we might have got from Ford or Brown?

Thought Rambo had a good game. Set piece was solid (scrum gave away BS pen for wheeling) and arrows were accurate. Would like to have seen him with ball in hand a bit more if anything. For me he is No.2 behind Brown when all fit but it is getting closer than it has been.

Horne at 12? Not for me on Saturday v NZ. I half wondered if we might see a Burleigh sighting to see what a second ball player who can truck it up if need be would do. Not my choice but I wondered if GT would think about it.

[Mikey Brown]

Oh right. Playing the All Blacks are we? Yeah, probably should have taken that in to consideration.

We just don't seem to be getting much out of Dunbar.

[hugh_woatmeigh]

We could really turn them over this time

[Cameo]

Oh right. Playing the All Blacks are we? Yeah, probably should have taken that in to consideration.

We just don't seem to be getting much out of Dunbar.

He did score a try that none of our other backs would have on the weekend and is one of our only turnover threats in defence. I agree he doesnt often get the ball in space though

[Mikey Brown]

He’s still able to drag a couple of defenders, that’s true. And he’s one of our best defenders on the fringe of a ruck. A bit more than that would be nice though.

[whatisthejava]

If the all blacks have a little complacency and we can fix the defense could be a great game. We can score tries out of nothing but we need to be able to take our restarts and defend.

[General Zod]

If the all blacks have a little complacency and we can fix the defense could be a great game. We can score tries out of nothing but we need to be able to take our restarts and defend.

When you put it like that, I think we’ll probably win.

[Edinburgh in Exile]

If the all blacks have a little complacency and we can fix the defense could be a great game. We can score tries out of nothing but we need to be able to take our restarts and defend.

Here, not to Greg smash all over your bonfire Java, but that fix in defense is going to have to be staggeringly good. The AIGs (I'm now really only sticking with this naming convention because some thin skinned stereotype on here told me it makes me look like a cunt) will do what Samoa did, but faster, and with more power and accuracy. Also, a rake of the trys we picked up in that last game, we wouldn't get near vs New Zealand.

I just hope we don't kick them the ball as much as we did for Samoa.

[whatisthejava]

Just because it's possible doesn't mean it will happen. I really don't think we will get close but for 40 mins I think we will be trailing but in it. When we get tired and bring on the subs it will go to shit and we will lose by 20