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Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:34 pm

thedman wrote:
Mellsblue wrote: It means one plays left centre and one plays right centre, not inside and outside. Nothing to do with feet. So, both players need to be comfortable at OC and IC. As both rely heavily on their outside arc, neither have a tactical kicking game and neither can 'truck it up' I can't see it working.
What are the advantages? Is it used when one player is better at passing off a particular hand?

its usually when they are quite similar styles of players, you could configure it to take advantage of a longer pass off the left hand, or if you have right and left footed kickers, or even which side they are stronger defenders on on say a drift. But tbh its normally a fudge when one player refuses to budge from say oc.

Post by **Eugene Wrayburn** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:36 pm

thedman wrote:
Mellsblue wrote: It means one plays left centre and one plays right centre, not inside and outside. Nothing to do with feet. So, both players need to be comfortable at OC and IC. As both rely heavily on their outside arc, neither have a tactical kicking game and neither can 'truck it up' I can't see it working.
What are the advantages? Is it used when one player is better at passing off a particular hand?

Sometimes - England used it for a while with Carling and Guscott. It cuts down on the running across field for the OC so you can realign quicker.

Beasties · Post by **Beasties** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:33 am

This is a rugby from, can't believe we're having to explain this.

Think it's more to do with the fact that both JJ and Daly are most definitely OCs. Neither of them would be in any way suitable for IC duties. Manu and Slade on the other hand are more than capable of playing either/or IC/OC. They both have things about them that make them flexible and desirable for both positions, whereas JJ and Daly have particular abilities that are totally suited to OC centre only. Or wing. Or FB at push.

Post by **Puja** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:23 am

Chilli wrote:I have read recently that Jones is unwilling to play a ‘left and right’ style centre combination. What the heck does that mean?

Hah! That bit of information started with this board! Or at least the old one. Bloody thieving newspapers.

Puja

Epaminondas Pules · Post by **Epaminondas Pules** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:41 am

Beasties wrote:This is a rugby from, can't believe we're having to explain this.

Think it's more to do with the fact that both JJ and Daly are most definitely OCs. Neither of them would be in any way suitable for IC duties. Manu and Slade on the other hand are more than capable of playing either/or IC/OC. They both have things about them that make them flexible and desirable for both positions, whereas JJ and Daly have particular abilities that are totally suited to OC centre only. Or wing. Or FB at push.

Why shouldn't it be explained?

twitchy · Post by **twitchy** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:44 am

Ryan's thoughts:

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2 ... ix-nations

Beasties · Post by **Beasties** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:39 am

Epaminondas Pules wrote:
Beasties wrote:This is a rugby from, can't believe we're having to explain this.

Think it's more to do with the fact that both JJ and Daly are most definitely OCs. Neither of them would be in any way suitable for IC duties. Manu and Slade on the other hand are more than capable of playing either/or IC/OC. They both have things about them that make them flexible and desirable for both positions, whereas JJ and Daly have particular abilities that are totally suited to OC centre only. Or wing. Or FB at push.
Why shouldn't it be explained?

Fair enough, one too many Babychams last night

Parsifal · Post by **Parsifal** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:52 am

Arse.

Sorry, just testing to see if my av appeared.

Edit: Arse.

Oakboy · Post by **Oakboy** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:53 am

Anybody else had a post disappear?

Parsifal · Post by **Parsifal** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:54 am

My tits did.

Oakboy · Post by **Oakboy** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:54 am

Parsifal wrote:Arse.

Sorry, just testing to see if my av appeared.

Edit: Arse.

Too big? That was my initial problem.

Oakboy · Post by **Oakboy** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:54 am

Parsifal wrote:My tits did.

From the av?

Parsifal · Post by **Parsifal** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:58 am

The tits are pretty big, hey, let's be honest, pretty and big but I'll try editing to see if I can squeeze them in.

Edit: Phew. Despite resorting to manual manipulation, I managed to squeeze them in.

Oakboy · Post by **Oakboy** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:23 am

Parsifal wrote:The tits are pretty big, hey, let's be honest, pretty and big but I'll try editing to see if I can squeeze them in.

Edit: Phew. Despite resorting to manual manipulation, I managed to squeeze them in.

I see you've just had your nails done!

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:28 am

twitchy wrote:Ryan's thoughts:

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2 ... ix-nations

its what's been said on here in general, though I'd dispute Lawes adding dynamism cf Launchbury.

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:49 am

Beasties wrote:This is a rugby from, can't believe we're having to explain this.

??? someone asked a question.

p/d · Post by **p/d** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:47 am

Ryan has nailed it.

Looks like Jones wants to build a squad to dominate up front, kill off the opposition in defence and score off their mistakes.

The success of the backs depends on the return of Tuilagi and the deftness of touch from twinkle toes off the bench.

As Campo said, don't expect exciting rugby under Jones (though he was shot down for daring to say this).

Post by **Eugene Wrayburn** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:21 pm

Parsifal wrote:Arse.

Sorry, just testing to see if my av appeared.

Edit: Arse.

That's definitely not an arse.

Post by **Puja** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:53 pm

p/d wrote:Ryan has nailed it.

Looks like Jones wants to build a squad to dominate up front, kill off the opposition in defence and score off their mistakes.

The success of the backs depends on the return of Tuilagi and the deftness of touch from twinkle toes off the bench.

As Campo said, don't expect exciting rugby under Jones (though he was shot down for daring to say this).

Hey, if his tactics result in more attacks like the one that led to Nowell's try, I'd call that exciting.

Puja

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:47 pm

p/d wrote:Ryan has nailed it.

Looks like Jones wants to build a squad to dominate up front, kill off the opposition in defence and score off their mistakes.

The success of the backs depends on the return of Tuilagi and the deftness of touch from twinkle toes off the bench.

As Campo said, don't expect exciting rugby under Jones (though he was shot down for daring to say this).

its nothing of a surprise what Ryan has said- Eddie has said it himself....winning is all.

Mikey Brown · Post by **Mikey Brown** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:07 pm

Am I posting?

Mikey Brown · Post by **Mikey Brown** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:07 pm

Wow. I am.

Carry on.

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:47 pm

What are we expecting then....

Win with a few stumbles?

Comfortable win?

Brave loss?

Thrashing (wrong end of)?

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:55 pm

WaspInWales wrote:What are we expecting then....

Win with a few stumbles?

Comfortable win?

Brave loss?

Thrashing (wrong end of)?

weather looks to be a bit crap, so not sure whether that helps or hinders.

Win with stumbles; think the scrum will be tough and we'll maybe look a bit shaky wide.

Mellsblue · Post by **Mellsblue** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:25 pm

Another pragmatic victory.

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