Bath V Exeter - Second Time Lucky - BTSport Fri; 7.45KO
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Bath V Exeter - Second Time Lucky - BTSport Fri; 7.45KO
Barring another snow storm;
15. Tom Homer
14. Matt Banahan
13. Jonathan Joseph
12. James Wilson
11. Aled Brew
10. Freddie Burns
9. Kahn Fotuali’i
1. Beno Obano
2. Nathan Charles
3. Henry Thomas
4. Charlie Ewels
5. Elliott Stooke
6. Matt Garvey (c)
7. Tom Ellis
8. Taulupe Faletau
16. Tom Dunn; 17. Nick Auterac; 18. Anthony Perenise; 19. James Phillips; 20. Paul Grant
21. Chris Cook; 22. Rhys Priestland; 23. Cooper Vuna
15. Phil Dollman
14. Ian Whitten
13. Henry Slade
12. Sam Hill
11. Lachie Turner
10. Joe Simmonds
9. Nic White
1. Alec Hepburn
2. Jack Yeandle (capt)
3. Tomas Francis
4. Sam Skinner
5. Jonny Hill
6. Dave Ewers
7. Don Armand
8. Sam Simmonds
16. Jack Innard; 17. Ben Moon; 18. Greg Holmes; 19. Mitch Lees; 20. Dave Dennis
21. Stu Townsend; 22. Gareth Steenson; 23. Santiago Cordero
15. Tom Homer
14. Matt Banahan
13. Jonathan Joseph
12. James Wilson
11. Aled Brew
10. Freddie Burns
9. Kahn Fotuali’i
1. Beno Obano
2. Nathan Charles
3. Henry Thomas
4. Charlie Ewels
5. Elliott Stooke
6. Matt Garvey (c)
7. Tom Ellis
8. Taulupe Faletau
16. Tom Dunn; 17. Nick Auterac; 18. Anthony Perenise; 19. James Phillips; 20. Paul Grant
21. Chris Cook; 22. Rhys Priestland; 23. Cooper Vuna
15. Phil Dollman
14. Ian Whitten
13. Henry Slade
12. Sam Hill
11. Lachie Turner
10. Joe Simmonds
9. Nic White
1. Alec Hepburn
2. Jack Yeandle (capt)
3. Tomas Francis
4. Sam Skinner
5. Jonny Hill
6. Dave Ewers
7. Don Armand
8. Sam Simmonds
16. Jack Innard; 17. Ben Moon; 18. Greg Holmes; 19. Mitch Lees; 20. Dave Dennis
21. Stu Townsend; 22. Gareth Steenson; 23. Santiago Cordero
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Re: Bath V Exeter - Second Time Lucky - BTSport Fri; 7.45KO
Simmonds boys out starting together- is that the first time? Shame Simmonds is at 8 and still no Kvesic (Or Salvi). You do wonder why Baxter went for Kvesic really- as he doesnt fit the way Exeter approach phase play, though in fairness Simmonds S does some over the ball stuff.
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Tom Dunn back is good news.
Joe S gets another chance to make the 10 shirt his own.
Should be a very good tussle up front.
Joe S gets another chance to make the 10 shirt his own.
Should be a very good tussle up front.
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Re: Bath V Exeter - Second Time Lucky - BTSport Fri; 7.45KO
Is this the Premiership fixture or the AWC final?
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Prem; AWC final is happening on Good Friday - early afternoon (so don't tune in at 7.30 expecting to catch it.francoisfou wrote:Is this the Premiership fixture or the AWC final?
Dunn back is fantastic news; those fingers looked a right mess in the brief galance I had before looking away and hiding being a cusion whenever they threatened to show a replay.
Interesting to see Simmonds at 10 with Steenson on the bench.
Nothing to choose between them on paper; whilst Exeter's cohesiveness and familiarty should make them favourites; but I wouldn't be surprised by anything from Bath by 15 to Exeter by 15.
also good to see Townsend getting some game time... if he's allowed on the pitch
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Exeter to win, must have been a thought they could combine this game
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Re: Bath V Exeter - Second Time Lucky - BTSport Fri; 7.45KO
Cheers, WT!Which Tyler wrote:Prem; AWC final is happening on Good Friday - early afternoon (so don't tune in at 7.30 expecting to catch it.francoisfou wrote:Is this the Premiership fixture or the AWC final?
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Re: Bath V Exeter - Second Time Lucky - BTSport Fri; 7.45KO
I still don't get what Baxter sees in White. If you wanted to define foreign, shirt-blocking foreigner you'd need to look no further, IMO.
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definitely foreign then!Oakboy wrote:I still don't get what Baxter sees in White. If you wanted to define foreign, shirt-blocking foreigner you'd need to look no further, IMO.
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Re: Bath V Exeter - Second Time Lucky - BTSport Fri; 7.45KO
White has played well for Exeter. I'd prefer they'd played the young English lads, but I couldn't say White hasn't been a good signing
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White's played well, but I don't know that he's played better than Chudley/Maunder/Townsend.
Having said that, I think maybe squad needs 4 SH, and if 2 of your 4 are already young, then you would look for a senior to come in. In which case, better a White than an Allinson (I know we signed him whilst desperate, but why the hell extend his stay? At the loss of Homer Jr too, who is already a better SH!)
Having said that, I think maybe squad needs 4 SH, and if 2 of your 4 are already young, then you would look for a senior to come in. In which case, better a White than an Allinson (I know we signed him whilst desperate, but why the hell extend his stay? At the loss of Homer Jr too, who is already a better SH!)
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A hard game, that Exeter just about deserved to win. I thought the battle between the second rows was epic. I think Ewels won the tackle count. Ewers, Armand and Simmonds put in a huge effort. I really hope Jones has lost his ridiculous prejudice against Armand.
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Yep, it was full on no holds barred stuff. Massive effort from both packs. The locks were tremendous. I'm warming to Ewels, who has a high work rate and low error count.
Only disappointing note was injury to Thomas, who i thought was having a terrific game. Hopefully its nothing too serious.
Only disappointing note was injury to Thomas, who i thought was having a terrific game. Hopefully its nothing too serious.
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Hang on I thought Simmonds was awful now? How can he have been MOTM?
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Try scoring show pony. He is the heir to Croft, the luxury Shetland pony.
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FTFYMellsblue wrote:Try scoring show pony. He is the heir to Croft, the luxury Exmoor pony.
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I think he has a fair bit to offer. At club level he can be effective in all three back-row positions. At international level, his future can only be at 7, IMO. He is too small for 6 or 8.Mikey Brown wrote:Hang on I thought Simmonds was awful now? How can he have been MOTM?
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I agree with what you say here.Oakboy wrote:I think he has a fair bit to offer. At club level he can be effective in all three back-row positions. At international level, his future can only be at 7, IMO. He is too small for 6 or 8.Mikey Brown wrote:Hang on I thought Simmonds was awful now? How can he have been MOTM?
I disagree that Mikey's post was worth responding to...
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Re: Bath V Exeter - Second Time Lucky - BTSport Fri; 7.45KO
When things were going well for England injury wise we blitzed teams in the last 20 mins with our "finishers". I see simmonds as a perfect component of that. Where he shines at test level is his acceleration in broken play vs big lump forwards. I see him as a perfect billy replacement that can cover the whole back row.
Having him start vs ireland (which I obviously realise was forced by injury) was probably one of the worst teams stylistically for him.
Having him start vs ireland (which I obviously realise was forced by injury) was probably one of the worst teams stylistically for him.
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Yes in the context of how the England pack is setup, and what we want from the 8twitchy wrote:When things were going well for England injury wise we blitzed teams in the last 20 mins with our "finishers". I see simmonds as a perfect component of that. Where he shines is at test level is his acceleration in broken play vs big lump forwards. I see him as a perfect billy replacement that can cover the whole back row.
Having him start vs ireland (which I obviously realise was forced by injury) was probably one of the worst teams stylistically for him.
If we'd had George or LCD over Hartley, Launchbury over Kruis or Itoje, and maybe something akin to Ewers over Robshaw then Simmonds game on attack starts to make more sense. Which isn't to say Simmonds must be picked and the team based around him
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Re: Bath V Exeter - Second Time Lucky - BTSport Fri; 7.45KO
Did Joe Simmonds ever play for Eng u20? I don’t remember ever seeing his name on a team sheet.
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Re: Bath V Exeter - Second Time Lucky - BTSport Fri; 7.45KO
Yeah he has played but 10 is probably the most contested position (good signs for the future). We seem to have a real conveyor belt going on.