Brexit delayed

[Digby]

The vote being advisory only, of course.

Oh the irony. Nonetheless there remains some chat the vote could be made a vote of confidence, and at some point it'll repeat for real.

[Banquo]

The vote being advisory only, of course.

Oh the irony. Nonetheless there remains some chat the vote could be made a vote of confidence, and at some point it'll repeat for real.

yay, and then it'll be both Brexit and Jezza. Could it be worse than what we have now, I hear you say.

[Digby]

The vote being advisory only, of course.

Oh the irony. Nonetheless there remains some chat the vote could be made a vote of confidence, and at some point it'll repeat for real.

yay, and then it'll be both Brexit and Jezza. Could it be worse than what we have now, I hear you say.

Whilst I hardly loved all their policy decisions to see how quickly we've gone from the Conservative and Lib Dem government which I thought a grown up response to some very testing circumstances to this beggars belief

[Mellsblue]

The vote being advisory only, of course.

Oh the irony. Nonetheless there remains some chat the vote could be made a vote of confidence, and at some point it'll repeat for real.

yay, and then it'll be both Brexit and Jezza. Could it be worse than what we have now, I hear you say.

Seems we’ll get another four bank holidays a year. So, it’s not all bad. I suppose they, a Lab govt, wouldn’t actually need to magic up the money for this one, but when a report is released on the same day showing how far behind we lag on productivity it shows they haven’t quite got their finger on the pulse of what the economy requires.

[Banquo]

Oh the irony. Nonetheless there remains some chat the vote could be made a vote of confidence, and at some point it'll repeat for real.

yay, and then it'll be both Brexit and Jezza. Could it be worse than what we have now, I hear you say.

Whilst I hardly loved all their policy decisions to see how quickly we've gone from the Conservative and Lib Dem government which I thought a grown up response to some very testing circumstances to this beggars belief

Sorry, I'm not following you?

[Banquo]

Oh the irony. Nonetheless there remains some chat the vote could be made a vote of confidence, and at some point it'll repeat for real.

yay, and then it'll be both Brexit and Jezza. Could it be worse than what we have now, I hear you say.

Seems we’ll get another four bank holidays a year. So, it’s not all bad. I suppose they, a Lab govt, wouldn’t actually need to magic up the money for this one, but when a report is released on the same day showing how far behind we lag on productivity it shows they haven’t quite got their finger on the pulse of what the economy requires.

They do have a certain genius for magicking up vote stealing ideas. When we say things like 'they've duped the kids', the kids know its nonsense, but don't care. Anything but May/Tories, basically.

[Digby]

yay, and then it'll be both Brexit and Jezza. Could it be worse than what we have now, I hear you say.

Whilst I hardly loved all their policy decisions to see how quickly we've gone from the Conservative and Lib Dem government which I thought a grown up response to some very testing circumstances to this beggars belief

Sorry, I'm not following you?

From a coalition government that entailed some give and take with neither side getting everything they want to the mess of Brexit and a possible government headed by Jezza or Boris.

[Banquo]

Whilst I hardly loved all their policy decisions to see how quickly we've gone from the Conservative and Lib Dem government which I thought a grown up response to some very testing circumstances to this beggars belief

Sorry, I'm not following you?

From a coalition government that entailed some give and take with neither side getting everything they want to the mess of Brexit and a possible government headed by Jezza or Boris.

ah, indeed yes. The libdems got an electoral shoeing for their pains at curbing the more extreme side of the Tory party, hardly seems fair.

[Banquo]

Oh the irony. Nonetheless there remains some chat the vote could be made a vote of confidence, and at some point it'll repeat for real.

yay, and then it'll be both Brexit and Jezza. Could it be worse than what we have now, I hear you say.

Seems we’ll get another four bank holidays a year. So, it’s not all bad. I suppose they, a Lab govt, wouldn’t actually need to magic up the money for this one, but when a report is released on the same day showing how far behind we lag on productivity it shows they haven’t quite got their finger on the pulse of what the economy requires.

and the Tories attempt to trump it, though not sure its a holiday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43869377

[Mellsblue]

yay, and then it'll be both Brexit and Jezza. Could it be worse than what we have now, I hear you say.

Seems we’ll get another four bank holidays a year. So, it’s not all bad. I suppose they, a Lab govt, wouldn’t actually need to magic up the money for this one, but when a report is released on the same day showing how far behind we lag on productivity it shows they haven’t quite got their finger on the pulse of what the economy requires.

and the Tories attempt to trump it, though not sure its a holiday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43869377

Ffs.

[Digby]

The DUP (Mrs Foster) say they believe Mr Barnier does not understand the dispute and is "not an honest broker" when it comes to discussion on the border

In return, Mar Barnier says the DUP needs to respect that his role is to negotiate on behalf of the EU and not to act as a mediator.

[Digby]

http://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.co.uk/

Luckily the cabinet will today come together with a clear voice setting out a sensible position, on this I have no doubts given the smooth progression elsewhere

[fivepointer]

Chris Grey's blogs are absolutely tip top. Essential reading.

[fivepointer]

another absolutely belting post from Chris Grey

"In effect, the government are playing a game of chicken with three trains – the EU, and the two wings of the Tory Party – or, more accurately, they are forcing our entire country to play such a game. Those trains are now hurtling at high speed towards us, and it hard to see how we can avoid being hit by one or more of them, possibly simultaneously.

It need hardly be said that nothing remotely like this was what voters were told Brexit would mean"

http://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.co. ... games.html

[Mellsblue]

Sounds like everyday government, other than normally one of the trains would be the opposition.

[Digby]

Sounds like everyday government, other than normally one of the trains would be the opposition.

Wasn't there something about trying a new timetable and trains getting cancelled?

Tories have set up a counter group to ERG, Onward, though Onward does have support from the likes of Gove as well as pro Europeans such as Ruth Davidson. Both within in the Tory party and outside the battle is on for what sort of future will we have, one deregulated, something akin to the status quo, or one ramping up the protectionism to supposedly protect us from globilisation.

[Banquo]

anyone got any insight on what the Italian and Spanish imbroglios may mean for the EU?

[canta_brian]

Chris Grey's blogs are absolutely tip top. Essential reading.

Essential reading that, unfortunately, will only ever be read by people who already agree with his basic point of view.

If anything is learned from Brexit it should be that referenda are extremely poor at delivering democracy based on informed decisions. Britain's politicians abdicated their responsibilities to the headline writers of Fleet Street.

[Stones of granite]

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-brita ... KKCN1IW35H

Brexit Secretary David Davis is proposing a 10-mile (16-km)-wide trade buffer zone along the border that would be in effect for local traders like dairy farmers after the UK leaves the bloc, the newspaper said.

What could possibly go wrong....

Mind you, the story appears to have been broken by The Sun, so it may just be Davis’ department sounding opinion.

[Digby]

Trump's tariffs show getting deals outside the EU remains a piece of piss, maybe not as easy as a deal with the EU 'cause we don't buy much prosseco from the US, but easy nonetheless

[kk67]

They keep saying there's no plan for a no deal Brexit... Some have a plan.

[Digby]

15 amendments to be considered in one day, it's clearly sod all to do with returning sovereignty to parliament. Given Brexit the government is basically doing sod all else with many days having nothing going on, literally no votes, so any claim they need to cram this latest into one day doesn't even raise itself to the level of spurious

[Banquo]

'Imagine Trump doing Brexit'. Discuss

[Sandydragon]

'Imagine Trump doing Brexit'. Discuss

Between Boris and Rees-Mogg, were not too far off.

[Which Tyler]

Now imagine the Brexit negotiating clusterfuck negotiating with Trump's team?
'cos that's what we've got to look forward to