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Which Tyler · Post by **Which Tyler** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:13 pm

So, assuming that Sarries and Pests beat LIrish and Saints...

Bath Vs LIrish - Irish are gone regardless, Bath can still make 6th with a 5 pointer and favourable results (O fo Glos and 0-2 for Sale).
Falcons Vs Pests - Winner plays a SF in Barnet, loser plays a SF in Exeter.Quin.s Vs Exeter - complete dead rubber, Ex are unassailable, Quin's can change league position, between 9th and 11th.
Sale Vs Leicester - Sale playing for a place in Europe, Tigers can finish no higher than 5th, and can only drop out of the top 6 if routed (and Glos win in Barnet).
Saints Vs Wuss - Pride at stake, either could finish 9th, either could finish 11th.
Saracens Vs Glos - Dead rubber for Sarries who will finish 2nd, Glos can drop out of the top 6 if they lose.

Always worth remembering, league points > wins > points difference > points scored > head-to-head

Scrumhead · Post by **Scrumhead** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:41 pm

If I were to call those now I’d go for:

Bath vs. London Irish - BP win for Bath

Newcastle vs. Wasps - hard to call. It may depend on Newcastle’s injuries. Away win for Wasps, no BP

Quins vs. Exeter - Easy BP win for Exeter

Sale vs. Leicester - Home win for Sale, no BP

Saints vs. Worcester - I fancy Worcester to win this with a BP

Saracens vs. Gloucester - BP win for Saracens

Tigersman · Post by **Tigersman** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:53 pm

Which Tyler wrote:So, assuming that Sarries and Pests beat LIrish and Saints...

Bath Vs LIrish - Irish are gone regardless, Bath can still make 6th with a 5 pointer and favourable results (O fo Glos and 0-2 for Sale).
Falcons Vs Pests - Winner plays a SF in Barnet, loser plays a SF in Exeter.Quin.s Vs Exeter - complete dead rubber, Ex are unassailable, Quin's can change league position, between 9th and 11th.
Sale Vs Leicester - Sale playing for a place in Europe, Tigers can finish no higher than 5th, and can only drop out of the top 6 if routed (and Glos win in Barnet).
Saints Vs Wuss - Pride at stake, either could finish 9th, either could finish 11th.
Saracens Vs Glos - Dead rubber for Sarries who will finish 2nd, Glos can drop out of Europe if they lose.

Always worth remembering, league points > wins > points difference > points scored > head-to-head

Tigers can finish 4th depending on the Saints v Wasps game actually.

fivepointer · Post by **fivepointer** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:54 pm

Sale v Tigers looks the pick of the games to me. Glos are going to have to get something from their trip you feel as Bath will surely beat LI with a BP, and Falcons & Wasps are going to fight it out for 3rd or 4th place.

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:34 pm

Tigersman wrote:
Which Tyler wrote:So, assuming that Sarries and Pests beat LIrish and Saints...

Bath Vs LIrish - Irish are gone regardless, Bath can still make 6th with a 5 pointer and favourable results (O fo Glos and 0-2 for Sale).
Falcons Vs Pests - Winner plays a SF in Barnet, loser plays a SF in Exeter.Quin.s Vs Exeter - complete dead rubber, Ex are unassailable, Quin's can change league position, between 9th and 11th.
Sale Vs Leicester - Sale playing for a place in Europe, Tigers can finish no higher than 5th, and can only drop out of the top 6 if routed (and Glos win in Barnet).
Saints Vs Wuss - Pride at stake, either could finish 9th, either could finish 11th.
Saracens Vs Glos - Dead rubber for Sarries who will finish 2nd, Glos can drop out of Europe if they lose.

Always worth remembering, league points > wins > points difference > points scored > head-to-head

Tigers can finish 4th depending on the Saints v Wasps game actually.

that was puzzling me too, unlikely as it may be that Wasps get not a lot from their last two games

edit....apols, WT had a caveat/assumption re wasps/saints

Gloskarlos · Post by **Gloskarlos** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:35 pm

Glos are already guaranteed a place in the champions cup regardless of finishing sixth, runner up of the challenge cup gets an automatic spot as Cardiff have already qualified?

Tigersman · Post by **Tigersman** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:50 pm

Gloskarlos wrote:Glos are already guaranteed a place in the champions cup regardless of finishing sixth, runner up of the challenge cup gets an automatic spot as Cardiff have already qualified?

Nope.

Which Tyler · Post by **Which Tyler** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:54 pm

Tigersman wrote:
Which Tyler wrote:So, assuming that Sarries and Pests beat LIrish and Saints...
Tigers can finish 4th depending on the Saints v Wasps game actually.

Hence the first sentence.

Gloskarlos wrote:Glos are already guaranteed a place in the champions cup regardless of finishing sixth, runner up of the challenge cup gets an automatic spot as Cardiff have already qualified?

not quite, though I had forgotten that route in; if Racing win the big boys cup, and drop 3-4 places in the league, and Glos finish outside the top 6.
So pretty much, but not quite guaranteed.

Editted for you though

Gloskarlos · Post by **Gloskarlos** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:47 pm

Tigersman wrote:
Gloskarlos wrote:Glos are already guaranteed a place in the champions cup regardless of finishing sixth, runner up of the challenge cup gets an automatic spot as Cardiff have already qualified?
Nope.

BBC have it wrong then

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/43851604

Which Tyler · Post by **Which Tyler** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:06 pm

My understanding is that the Challenge winners o of get the spot if the Champ winner is already qualified, so if Racing win, but fail to qualify through the league, they get the spot.

Tigersman · Post by **Tigersman** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:57 pm

Gloskarlos wrote:
Tigersman wrote:
Gloskarlos wrote:Glos are already guaranteed a place in the champions cup regardless of finishing sixth, runner up of the challenge cup gets an automatic spot as Cardiff have already qualified?
Nope.
BBC have it wrong then

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/43851604

when do the BBC get it right regarding rugby stuff?

Gloskarlos · Post by **Gloskarlos** » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:31 am

Tigersman wrote:
Gloskarlos wrote:
Tigersman wrote:
Nope.
BBC have it wrong then

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/43851604
when do the BBC get it right regarding rugby stuff?

As often as any other sports site/newspaper/magazine/forum in reality.....

Glos had better beat Cardiff then hadn't we

Which Tyler · Post by **Which Tyler** » Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:27 pm

Yes on principal, but doing so would make no difference whatsoever to your ambitions in Europe for next year.
Beat Sarries and your in, get Racing to win another 1 (I think) match in the Pro 14 and you're in.

Which Tyler · Post by **Which Tyler** » Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:14 pm

Since that post, Racing have won another match, so Glos are confirmed in the Big cup for next year.
I hadn't twigged that they were yet to play when I looked at the T14 table yesterday, so I thought they had 2 weekends left.

Gloskarlos · Post by **Gloskarlos** » Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:46 pm

Which Tyler wrote:Since that post, Racing have won another match, so Glos are confirmed in the Big cup for next year.
I hadn't twigged that they were yet to play when I looked at the T14 table yesterday, so I thought they had 2 weekends left.

Well that is good news then.

Still need to beat Cardiff and win something for a chance tho.

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