Bellingcat: the Dead Cat FactorySandydragon wrote:
Theres an interesting article on Bellingcat .
Need a Dead Cat?
Call Bellingcat.
Dead Cats thrown straight on your table.
http://off-guardian.org/2016/02/28/bell ... t-factory/
Bellingcat: the Dead Cat FactorySandydragon wrote:
Theres an interesting article on Bellingcat .
How is Bellingcat any different to what you do? Except they tend to be more evidence based and get a more discerning audience. Keep on ignoring those inconvenient truths.UGagain wrote:Bellingcat: the Dead Cat FactorySandydragon wrote:
Theres an interesting article on Bellingcat .
Need a Dead Cat?
Call Bellingcat.
Dead Cats thrown straight on your table.
http://off-guardian.org/2016/02/28/bell ... t-factory/
The war began when NATO and its allies (notably Saudi and Israel) began arming and training rebels, many of whom entered quite freely from the northern border. A large number of them were Iraqi Sunnis disenfranchised by the Bush & Blair invasion. Not surprisingly, therefore, some turned directly to committing acts of terrorism, slaughtering Alawite families in cold blood and so on. The chemical weapons attack in Damascus, which almost triggered another US bombing campaign, has since been traced back to the rebels (the source of those weapons lying north of the border).Sandydragon wrote:Elections were only held in regime held areas. So those who generally oppose Assad couldn't vote anyway.
AS much as this is dressed up by some as outsiders alone interfering, this is a genuine civil war, brought about in a huge part by Assad himself. Any long term peace deal that finds him remaining in post as President for more than an interim period won't work, even if Putin decided to add his weight to the outcome.
I genuinely laughed out loud at that.Sandydragon wrote:How is Bellingcat any different to what you do? Except they tend to be more evidence based and get a more discerning audience. Keep on ignoring those inconvenient truths.UGagain wrote:Bellingcat: the Dead Cat FactorySandydragon wrote:
Theres an interesting article on Bellingcat .
Need a Dead Cat?
Call Bellingcat.
Dead Cats thrown straight on your table.
http://off-guardian.org/2016/02/28/bell ... t-factory/
Sandydragon wrote:Elections were only held in regime held areas. So those who generally oppose Assad couldn't vote anyway.
AS much as this is dressed up by some as outsiders alone interfering, this is a genuine civil war, brought about in a huge part by Assad himself. Any long term peace deal that finds him remaining in post as President for more than an interim period won't work, even if Putin decided to add his weight to the outcome.
Indeed, over a million of them. And instead of getting help from the 'international community" the got economic warfare aka sanctions. And Robert (death squads'r'us) Ford running around the country inciting 'democracy activists'.rowan wrote:The war began when NATO and its allies (notably Saudi and Israel) began arming and training rebels, many of whom entered quite freely from the northern border. A large number of them were Iraqi Sunnis disenfranchised by the Bush & Blair invasion. Not surprisingly, therefore, some turned directly to committing acts of terrorism, slaughtering Alawite families in cold blood and so on. The chemical weapons attack in Damascus, which almost triggered another US bombing campaign, has since been traced back to the rebels (the source of those weapons lying north of the border).Sandydragon wrote:Elections were only held in regime held areas. So those who generally oppose Assad couldn't vote anyway.
AS much as this is dressed up by some as outsiders alone interfering, this is a genuine civil war, brought about in a huge part by Assad himself. Any long term peace deal that finds him remaining in post as President for more than an interim period won't work, even if Putin decided to add his weight to the outcome.
The involvement of NATO members in the conflict was uninvited and highly dubious. We know at least one of them was working with the rebels/terrorists to steal oil, and bombing so-called ISID's enemies in the process. The Russians, however, were invited by the Syrian government, and therefore acted within international law. A leaked US intelligence document actually praised their efficiency.
Assad is certainly no saint (unless you compare him to America & Europe's close allies in Saudi and Israel), and responded brutally to the Arab Spring protests just prior to the war. But there is no connection between the students and school teachers who took part in that event and the deranged maniacs running amok in the north and hacking people's heads off. In fact, retired American general Wesley Clark actually included Syria on a list of nations America intended to 'take out' in plans drawn up shortly after 9/11. Others included Iraq, Libya, Sudan and Somalia.
Why does America wan't regime change in Syria. Well, for one thing Damascus is aligned with Moscow and Tehran. It has been that way ever since Kermit Roosevelt and the CIA attempted to follow up their anti-democratic coup in Iran in 1953 with a similar operation in Syria. Meanwhile, the Assads are not Sunni and therefore hated by Saudi, they have a land dispute with Israel which still refuses to return land stolen (according to the UN) in the 1967 war, and they refused a Qatari request to build a pipeline across their country to Turkey & Europe, favouring an Irani pipeline directly into the Mediterranean instead. The latter is probably the major reason for the current conflict.
Incidentally, I was in Syria just a few years before it all kicked off and it seemed relatively calm at the time, notwithstanding an influx of refugees from Iraq following the Bush & Blair invasion. I also have good friends in the south of Turkey, closer to th border, who I chat with on FB about the issue from time to time.
rowan wrote:Good article from veteran Australian journalist John Pilger here: http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/ ... hat-moves/
Absolutely! Obama has been involved in 7 wars in the Middle East, only the Russians prevented the US and its allies from turning Syria into another Iraq, and we're all supposed to be worried about Putin (who is certainly no saint, btw).UGagain wrote:rowan wrote:Good article from veteran Australian journalist John Pilger here: http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/ ... hat-moves/
And today President Peace Prize was in Europe agitating for war on Russia. Dutifully flanked by the usual lap dogs of the so called free world.
It's astonishing that there are people in the west that fear Russia and Putin more than they fear their own mass murdering 'leaders'. And try to justify serial western aggression.
It's a mental illness.