Uncontested Ruck Offside Lines

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Re: Uncontested Ruck Offside Lines

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fivepointer wrote:another point of view about using the TMO. I'm beginning to warm to the idea of one challenge per team during a game and reducing the input from the TMO

http://keepupthedoodling.com/tipping-po ... k-the-tmo/

"Players are constantly badgering referees to ‘go upstairs’ in a desperate bid to reverse an outcome. A cricket style review system would alleviate this. Three officials should run the game to the best of their judgement and be empower to be decisive. Currently, we have confiscated their freedom to run a flowing game. TMO interventions would occur in the event of a review used by a team if they think a call is incorrect. Or, for try-related ambiguity such as a grounding. Acts of foul play can be swept up by the citing system post match"
But, aren't most referrals just the ref making sure? I l like the challenge per team idea but it would only save time if refs had to make decisions without 'confirmation back-up'.
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Re: Uncontested Ruck Offside Lines

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fivepointer wrote:another point of view about using the TMO. I'm beginning to warm to the idea of one challenge per team during a game and reducing the input from the TMO

http://keepupthedoodling.com/tipping-po ... k-the-tmo/

"Players are constantly badgering referees to ‘go upstairs’ in a desperate bid to reverse an outcome. A cricket style review system would alleviate this. Three officials should run the game to the best of their judgement and be empower to be decisive. Currently, we have confiscated their freedom to run a flowing game. TMO interventions would occur in the event of a review used by a team if they think a call is incorrect. Or, for try-related ambiguity such as a grounding. Acts of foul play can be swept up by the citing system post match"
I'm not in favour of the one-challenge idea as it would take decisions out of the referees' hands and into the captains'. Plus, you'd get situations where something egregious is missed because the captains don't have a challenge left.

I don't think the TMO in regular play has been a problem - the issue is the forensic assessment of tries, especially when it happens about 20 minutes after the try has been scored. I would be in favour of the TMO only being allowed to be used on tries with the following criteria:
1) if the referee asks for it immediately
2) the ref has to declare his decision of try or no try first, and the TMO has to have definite evidence to overturn the onfield decision
3) Once it's gone to the TMO, it's the TMO's decision only.

That way we get rid of the TMO piping up as the conversion's being set or the ref deciding to look after endless big screen replays in favour of the home side. If the ref doesn't think it worthwhile looking at immediately, then it can't be called for. Forcing the ref to make the initial decision that needs to be overturned will mean that marginal calls go with the onfield decision, and giving the decision solely to the TMO means that we avoid the endless, "I'll just show you another angle" conversations, as the refs peer at a screen 30 metres away.

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Re: Uncontested Ruck Offside Lines

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Which Tyler wrote:
Digby wrote:Acts of foul play can also be swept up by the citing commissioner
Or sweptnundee the carpet if that's politically expedient. (If you're both black, and captain of South Africa, then headbutting an opponent in the face can be justified if your opponent is being annoying)
Did he not just think he was in Glasgow and was merely attempting to participate in local cultural habits?
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