Team for Australia

[Mellsblue]

I’m yet to see anything to suggest Shields is any better than Robshaw or Wilson either. The fact that I’d prefer Lawes at 6 speaks volumes.

Exactly this. Hard-nosed, lineout jumping 6 who can keep up with the pace of S14 and is a known leader sounds great. But I don’t know how anyone could claim to have seen that since he’s been in England.

Can't argue with that.

Nz game was his best so far though, he did cover a lot of ground and was physical.

Yep. I thought he played pretty well against NZ. That said, he’s not shown form worthy of a Eng shirt since he move to Eng.

[Mikey Brown]

He has?

[Mellsblue]

He has?

Ha! Should’ve had a ‘not’ in there. Now edited.

[Digby]

He has?

Ha! Should’ve had a ‘not’ in there. Now edited.

You are Banquo and I claim my €5

[Oakboy]

I’m yet to see anything to suggest Shields is any better than Robshaw or Wilson either. The fact that I’d prefer Lawes at 6 speaks volumes.

Exactly this. Hard-nosed, lineout jumping 6 who can keep up with the pace of S14 and is a known leader sounds great. But I don’t know how anyone could claim to have seen that since he’s been in England.

Can't argue with that.

Nz game was his best so far though, he did cover a lot of ground and was physical.

The trouble is, Dash, we don't want an 'honest trier'. We've got loads of proper English versions of that. Covering ground and getting stuck in is pretty meaningless if he is off the pace even by a metre. So far, IMO, he simply does not affect the game, even collectively. I have yet to see him make one single decisive tackle - of Worsley significance, shall we say. Over thirty yards, he must be at least five yards slower than Moody.

Today, against this Aussie side, if he's any good, Shields ought to be a real destructive nuisance. That's his job. We'll see.

[badback]

If anyone finds a good stream let me know

[Which Tyler]

http://cdn6.crichd.to/sky-sports-main-e ... -free-uk-2

[Mellsblue]

Will I be told I’m too negative if I point how s**t Youngs’ pass was to May?

[Galfon]

2 min..?
backward scrum shuffle ineffective for Aus
May in..try 15
7- 0 after 4 min.

[Galfon]

Eng on track with pens..
7 - 3 after 7 min..To'ouma.

[Peej]

Will I be told I’m too negative if I point how s**t Youngs’ pass was to May?

Actually thought May had over-run it, rather than the pass being poor.

The standard idiotic Itoje penalty. But apparently you can tackle a tackler now? Anyone else see them upend Moon to stop it turning into a maul?

[Which Tyler]

Will I be told I’m too negative if I point how s**t Youngs’ pass was to May?

He didn't make it easy for him, but it wasn't terrible

[Peej]

How was that legal from the Ozzy 2? Diving off his feet into the 9 from behind the back foot?

[Which Tyler]

Will I be told I’m too negative if I point how s**t Youngs’ pass was to May?

Actually thought May had over-run it, rather than the pass being poor.

Could be, my stream cut me off from any replays to check

[Stom]

Typical. I knew we'd be quick but my stream died on kick off... I've missed around 75% of England tries this autumn

[WaspInWales]

Someone-esque pass there from Genia.

[TheDasher]

Will I be told I’m too negative if I point how s**t Youngs’ pass was to May?

Yes!

[Mellsblue]

Will I be told I’m too negative if I point how s**t Youngs’ pass was to May?

He didn't make it easy for him, but it wasn't terrible

Our best 9 chucks a five yard pass at his target’s hips. If May is too flat I’ll change my mind, if he’s not it’s a s**t pass.

[Galfon]

Bad miss Faz, 12 min.

[Mellsblue]

Will I be told I’m too negative if I point how s**t Youngs’ pass was to May?

Yes!

Ha. Brilliant bit of motivation from Farrell 15 phases earlier to set it all up, though.

[Mellsblue]

Bad miss Faz, 12 min.

You negative, echo chamber dweller, you.

[Galfon]

Pen Faz!..10-3, 14 mins..he was only kidding.

[WaspInWales]

Uncharacteristc.

[WaspInWales]

"normal service resumed"

[Peej]

Great hit and turn over from Shields.

Slade looking really good