Leicester v Saracens

Moderator: Puja

Post Reply
fivepointer
Posts: 5895
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:42 pm

Leicester v Saracens

Post by fivepointer »

This afternoons match.

Leicester: Holmes; Thompstone, Owen, Eastmond, J Olowofela; J Ford, Harrison; Bateman, T Youngs (capt), Cole, Spencer, Kitchener, Williams, O'Connor, Kalamafoni.

Replacements: Kerr, Gigena, Cortes, Wells, Fitzgerald, White, Hardwick, Worth.

Saracens: Goode; Lozowski, Tompkins, Barritt (capt), Lewington; Malins, Spencer; Barrington, Tolofua, Judge, Day, Skelton, Rhodes, Burger, Wray.

Replacements: Woolstencroft, Thompson-Stringer, Sasagi, Kpoku, Clark, Earl, Whiteley, Gallagher.
Epaminondas Pules
Posts: 3406
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:19 pm

Re: Leicester v Saracens

Post by Epaminondas Pules »

Can't see this going well for us today. Number 5 to 8 are rank average at best. Joe Ford is gash, whilst the rest of the backline is average.
p/d
Posts: 3826
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:45 pm

Re: Leicester v Saracens

Post by p/d »

Loz on the wing
Tigersman
Posts: 1540
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:11 am

Re: Leicester v Saracens

Post by Tigersman »

Olowofela out by the looks of it.

Worth starting and Smith on the bench.
A slow backline gets slower.
Epaminondas Pules
Posts: 3406
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:19 pm

Re: Leicester v Saracens

Post by Epaminondas Pules »

Tigersman wrote:Olowofela out by the looks of it.

Worth starting and Smith on the bench.
A slow backline gets slower.
To be fair taking Youngs, Ford, Toomua, Tuilagi and May out of any backline and it'll look a smidge worse off.

Mind that's no excuse for our pack, especially numbers 5 through 8.
p/d
Posts: 3826
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:45 pm

Re: Leicester v Saracens

Post by p/d »

Cole done for Worth and Youngs all in 40mins.
Tigersman
Posts: 1540
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:11 am

Re: Leicester v Saracens

Post by Tigersman »

What a crap call 100% PT.
p/d
Posts: 3826
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:45 pm

Re: Leicester v Saracens

Post by p/d »

Tigersman wrote:What a crap call 100% PT.
Aye. Goode should have seen yellow as well.

As a neutral enjoyed that.
fivepointer
Posts: 5895
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:42 pm

Re: Leicester v Saracens

Post by fivepointer »

Very odd - and bad - decision by the officials not to award a PT. Yes, they had 20 meters to the line but it was a back rower with a SH in support, not a pair of props. Saracens had a bit of luck there.
3 long range tries in about 10 minutes saw them through, plus some smart play in the last few minutes.
Lozowski put in a good shift on the wing. He really is a very adaptable player.
francoisfou
Posts: 2513
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:01 pm
Location: Haute-Garonne

Re: Leicester v Saracens

Post by francoisfou »

I watched the match on and off on t'internet (more off than on as the signal was crap) and have a question for those that saw the match in full.
Karl Dickson seems to be an up and coming ref, and apart from the criticism aimed at him for the rejected penalty try, how did he handle the game overall?
fivepointer
Posts: 5895
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:42 pm

Re: Leicester v Saracens

Post by fivepointer »

I think he's a good ref. He's very clear in his decision making, stays calm and communicates effectively. Like any ref he will make the odd marginal call the wrong way, but you have to live with that if he is generally consistent.
i could see why he didnt award the PT as the Leicester players had 20 odd meters to the line. i think he was wrong as "probably" they would have made it. It doesnt have to be a 100% certainly, only that a try would probably have been scored.
For me it was bad call.
Peej
Posts: 1756
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:01 pm

Re: Leicester v Saracens

Post by Peej »

I've just had a chance to watch it, and it looked a bad call. Think it should have been a penalty try.

But you have to ask why there's such variation in what TMOs will and won't say, and how aggressively they'll push
User avatar
Puja
Posts: 17693
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:16 pm

Re: Leicester v Saracens

Post by Puja »

francoisfou wrote:I watched the match on and off on t'internet (more off than on as the signal was crap) and have a question for those that saw the match in full.
Karl Dickson seems to be an up and coming ref, and apart from the criticism aimed at him for the rejected penalty try, how did he handle the game overall?
I've generally got a lot of time for him, but I think he had a bit of an iffy game. He let a lot of neck rolls and high shots go and was very, very patient with asking players to roll away. Plus, the penalty try was a shocking decision - they were 25m out and cover was miles away. The try would almost certainly have been scored, let alone probably. And then Goode should have gone and given away a penalty try shortly after.

Bit of an odd game - I wasn't expecting more than a losing bonus point at best, we were desperately unlucky to go 3-21 down, and there were isolated moments for our comeback which were very good, but we looked so poor for so much of the time. Why do we play everything off 9 to a stationary forward standing 3m behind the gainline? Is there some tactic behind not running onto the ball that I've missed?

I tell you what, Lozowski looked a handy winger. I'd be interested to see more of him there.

Puja
Backist Monk
twitchy
Posts: 3280
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:04 am

Re: Leicester v Saracens

Post by twitchy »

Peej
Posts: 1756
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:01 pm

Re: Leicester v Saracens

Post by Peej »

Bit strange that Malins didn't give the simple pass to the two runners on his right, but cracking stuff all the same. It's not easy getting on the outside and then round Eastmond.
Scrumhead
Posts: 5983
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:33 am

Re: Leicester v Saracens

Post by Scrumhead »

Credit to Malins for some excellent play, but the simplest option is typically the best.

I can see why the penalty try wasn’t given but Goode should definitely have seen yellow for a very cynical piece of play.
User avatar
Stom
Posts: 5840
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:57 am

Re: Leicester v Saracens

Post by Stom »

Where can I see the penalty try?
Post Reply