Beeb Strictly conspiracy

[WaspInWales]

Claims of Strictly being a 'fix' are nothing new and have probably plagued every series with favourites leaving early and seemingly no-hopers going a long way, but Stacey Dooley winning the latest edition got me wondering whether it's better for the Beeb to have someone that works for the Beeb to win it?

Looking through the list of winners, a total of 9 (out of 16) have worked for the Beeb:
Stacey Dooley (BBC3 programmes)
Joe McFadden (Holby City)
Ore Oduba (BBC presenter)
Caroline Flack (Slightly tenuous here, but she did work for the BBC as presenter/host for a number of programmes prior to winning)
Kara Tointon (Eastenders)
Chris Hollins (BBC Breakfast)
Tom Chambers (Holby City)
Jill Halfpenny (Eastenders)
Natasha Kaplinsky (BBC News)

In some cases, the winner has been the celebrity with the lowest score from the judges, but the overall support from the viewers. I'm not an avid fan of the show as such, although I enjoyed Gemma Atkinson's appearance last year However, I remember watching when Hollins beat Ricky Whitle, who seemed so much better week in, week out. I haven't watched much of this series, if any, but it seemed there were a couple of celebrities who were much better than Dooley.

Could it be that the household BBC names are more likely to generate bias in the BBC viewers?

Could it be that the public may give a lot more respect and votes to the celebrities who most probably haven't come from a performing arts background? Dooley, Hollins, Kaplinsky and possibly Oduba tick those boxes?

Could it be that it's better for the Beeb to have a BBC household name as winner, whether for financial or otherwise reasons?

Could it be that I just shouldn't give a fuck?

[Galfon]

You obviously do, from the worrying analysis.
Hopefully this is reflecting the final result and not the seemingly never-ending weekend ritual of squeals, tears and dance-offs.
The bookies are never far off and they predicted this win.
I admit to catching some of the final and thought the other 2 females were clearly superior dancers, but murmurs abound of public backlash due to them having dancey type early careers.Also the skinny blogger/vlogger/snogger with the feisty red-head gave a better showing on the night I thought.
Maybe these beeb-ites are just better known to those who choose to vote and do so on a preference nowt to do with dancing prowess.All the joodges recognised the Canadian lass was the bestest by far on the night and in previous weeks.
I just hope the winner can consider some elliecution advice should she seek to further her presenter career, or has all that gone now ?

[SerjeantWildgoose]

It never ceases to amaze me that this, possibly the most ludicrously camp and culturally irrelevant manifestation of the people's vote crap that has ever been sprayed over the TV schedules, attracts any, let alone so much, interest. It goes so far beyond drivel and that it is the subject of public conversation simply proves the Orwellian power of tax-funded TV and the willingness of the public to swallow any junk that they can be conned into thinking they are getting for free.

[Lizard]

It never ceases to amaze me that this, possibly the most ludicrously camp and culturally irrelevant manifestation of the people's vote crap that has ever been sprayed over the TV schedules, attracts any, let alone so much, interest. It goes so far beyond drivel and that it is the subject of public conversation simply proves the Orwellian power of tax-funded TV and the willingness of the public to swallow any junk that they can be conned into thinking they are getting for free.

Aye

[WaspInWales]

You obviously do, from the worrying analysis.
Hopefully this is reflecting the final result and not the seemingly never-ending weekend ritual of squeals, tears and dance-offs.
The bookies are never far off and they predicted this win.
I admit to catching some of the final and thought the other 2 females were clearly superior dancers, but murmurs abound of public backlash due to them having dancey type early careers.Also the skinny blogger/vlogger/snogger with the feisty red-head gave a better showing on the night I thought.
Maybe these beeb-ites are just better known to those who choose to vote and do so on a preference nowt to do with dancing prowess.All the joodges recognised the Canadian lass was the bestest by far on the night and in previous weeks.
I just hope the winner can consider some elliecution advice should she seek to further her presenter career, or has all that gone now ?

It's just a casual observation...honest, and yes it's about the final result.

That said, the weekly stories of who is shagging whom, and who has fallen out with eachother are beginning to seem orchestrated to the same degree as the dances themselves.

I haven't watched any of this year's show, so all I'm going by in terms of who has been the best is what has been reported or what I've heard from the missus.

It just got me wondering if there is any benefit for the Beeb to have someone already contracted with the Beeb, as a winner? Does it make any promotional work/tours etc, easier and/or cheaper for them?

I can understand how viewers may hold it against some of the celebrities who may have experience, but 4 of the previous winners who have worked for the Beeb come from acting backgrounds so may have practised dance at some stage in their careers. Other winners have been in pop bands (Alesha Dixon, Harry Judd and Jay McGuinness), so have probably been taught varying degrees of dance routines, but the public didn't hold it against them in the same way that it was held against others. Again, probably personal bias and favouritism from the viewers. Some people may have come across as more likeable too.

[Digby]

Most of the celebrity winners are people I've never heard of. I do know the names Hollins and Kaplinsky, and whilst I don't know why I do know Flack too

[fivepointer]

Mrs 5 enjoys the show and i've caught some of it.
Dooley plainly wasnt the best dancer - Tozer was - but that doesnt matter. Its not a pure dance competition. People who win are liked by the public who vote for them.
Its not a fix. Its just that the public decide not on whether so and sos foxtrot was so much better than so and sos cha cha, its about who they like.

[morepork]

I think I prefer it when you all witter on about gardening.

SORT IT OUT.

[SerjeantWildgoose]

It may be time to revive the Shed Thread.

[Numbers]

Mrs 5 enjoys the show and i've caught some of it.
Dooley plainly wasnt the best dancer - Tozer was - but that doesnt matter. Its not a pure dance competition. People who win are liked by the public who vote for them.
Its not a fix. Its just that the public decide not on whether so and sos foxtrot was so much better than so and sos cha cha, its about who they like.

Dooley? Of Preston Grasshoppers fame? Fairplay to him.

[SerjeantWildgoose]

It all started to go a bit limp-wristed for him when he went to see out his playing days in Brighton.

[morepork]

I care not for war stories about your disgusting (wanking) sheds.

[SerjeantWildgoose]

Check out the queue of Aussies waiting for their turn in the legendary Great War-wanking shed of Wipers.

That lad 5th in line looks like he couldn't be done with waiting and has emptied himself a little prematurely (Possibly over a naughty postcard of Anne Widdecombe fisting Wade Dooley).

[WaspInWales]

Mrs 5 enjoys the show and i've caught some of it.
Dooley plainly wasnt the best dancer - Tozer was - but that doesnt matter. Its not a pure dance competition. People who win are liked by the public who vote for them.
Its not a fix. Its just that the public decide not on whether so and sos foxtrot was so much better than so and sos cha cha, its about who they like.

I think there are a number of plausible explanations why the 'weaker' contestent sometimes wins. Maybe some people just vote for who they like, regardless of performance? Perhaps some vote for whomever they feel is 'nicer', or is trying harder and the whole underdog effect? Perhaps it's a familiarity thing with Beeb contestents?

Either one, or any combination of them all could explain things, but I just wondered if it's in any way beneficial for the BBC to have the winner as an already contracted member of staff?

[Galfon]

fom le mirroir..
'Each celebrity who signs up for the talent show is given a standard £25,000 amount. If they manage stay in until the end of October, they then receive an extra £15,000, taking their total to £40,000.
The stars who then manage to make it to the quarter finals get an extra £20,000 on top of that.
The Strictly Winner will receive a fee of £100,000.
Anyone who signs up to the live tour - which takes place in the Spring - can also be in for making some more cash on top of their show fee.'
so 160-200k in the bag for Stace..maybe it's seen as a bonus/incentive for favoured staff, or a retention ploy.
or just a bit of fun.

[morepork]

I would rather wank my kok off to printed grot in a cold shed than attend a live performance of srtictly cum dancing.

[J Dory]

I would rather wank my kok off to printed grot in a cold shed than attend a live performance of srtictly cum dancing.

So all that time you told Mrs P you were "working on Rubi".....

[bruce]

Ye miserable feckers, it's a great show. Embrace the sequins!
Also it's the closest I get to titillation on a Saturday evening without parting with cash...

[morepork]

I would rather wank my kok off to printed grot in a cold shed than attend a live performance of srtictly cum dancing.

So all that time you told Mrs P you were "working on Rubi".....

Rubi don't take your love into town.

[Galfon]

too late for some..

.

[morepork]

Is it considered bad form to initiate self consummation when watching that shit?

[Sandydragon]

Claims of Strictly being a 'fix' are nothing new and have probably plagued every series with favourites leaving early and seemingly no-hopers going a long way, but Stacey Dooley winning the latest edition got me wondering whether it's better for the Beeb to have someone that works for the Beeb to win it?

Looking through the list of winners, a total of 9 (out of 16) have worked for the Beeb:
Stacey Dooley (BBC3 programmes)
Joe McFadden (Holby City)
Ore Oduba (BBC presenter)
Caroline Flack (Slightly tenuous here, but she did work for the BBC as presenter/host for a number of programmes prior to winning)
Kara Tointon (Eastenders)
Chris Hollins (BBC Breakfast)
Tom Chambers (Holby City)
Jill Halfpenny (Eastenders)
Natasha Kaplinsky (BBC News)

In some cases, the winner has been the celebrity with the lowest score from the judges, but the overall support from the viewers. I'm not an avid fan of the show as such, although I enjoyed Gemma Atkinson's appearance last year However, I remember watching when Hollins beat Ricky Whitle, who seemed so much better week in, week out. I haven't watched much of this series, if any, but it seemed there were a couple of celebrities who were much better than Dooley.

Could it be that the household BBC names are more likely to generate bias in the BBC viewers?

Could it be that the public may give a lot more respect and votes to the celebrities who most probably haven't come from a performing arts background? Dooley, Hollins, Kaplinsky and possibly Oduba tick those boxes?

Could it be that it's better for the Beeb to have a BBC household name as winner, whether for financial or otherwise reasons?

Could it be that I just shouldn't give a fuck?

I think she was the viewers favourite by a mile. The two best dancers had a background in dance and viewers like it when someone who hasn’t gets that good.

[Sandydragon]

Ye miserable feckers, it's a great show. Embrace the sequins!
Also it's the closest I get to titillation on a Saturday evening without parting with cash...

This.

[onlynameleft]

Mrs 5 enjoys the show and i've caught some of it.
Dooley plainly wasnt the best dancer - Tozer was - but that doesnt matter. Its not a pure dance competition. People who win are liked by the public who vote for them.
Its not a fix. Its just that the public decide not on whether so and sos foxtrot was so much better than so and sos cha cha, its about who they like.

Dooley? Of Preston Grasshoppers fame? Fairplay to him.

He went on to own and run a tea room called Dizzy Ducks which seems equally as unlikely as him being on Strictly...