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Previously claimed against Iran, but they are now 'peaceable' since their capitulation to the west. So is it really plausable that the missile defence is against anyone but Russia?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/m ... in-romania

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Zhivago wrote:Previously claimed against Iran, but they are now 'peaceable' since their capitulation to the west. So is it really plausable that the missile defence is against anyone but Russia?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/m ... in-romania
Strange that you comment on that and not this
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/10/sarmat_icbm/

Anyone would think you had an agenda.
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It's a defence shield, it can't attack Russia, or anyone else. It would also do very little against SLBM fired from the mid Atlantic.
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Sandydragon wrote:It's a defence shield, it can't attack Russia, or anyone else. It would also do very little against SLBM fired from the mid Atlantic.
It's one nail in the coffin of MAD. Surely you of all people would not deny that?

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Sandydragon wrote:It's a defence shield, it can't attack Russia, or anyone else. It would also do very little against SLBM fired from the mid Atlantic.

No. It's part of a first strike system.
As for the maths. There are mathematic 'theories' on both sides, they are not the same as mathematical facts. I asked for maths.

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UGagain wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:It's a defence shield, it can't attack Russia, or anyone else. It would also do very little against SLBM fired from the mid Atlantic.

No. It's part of a first strike system.
Please explain
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The entire rationale is based on the (probably mistaken) belief that a Russian counterattack with their few remaining (after an overwhelming first strike) missiles could be shot down by the anti-missile missiles.

Given that these systems have never ever worked it's a fool's game anyway but these people are not sane and there's a shed load of money to be scammed.

What it does do is makes the likelihood of a nuclear war by either intention or mistake much greater.
As for the maths. There are mathematic 'theories' on both sides, they are not the same as mathematical facts. I asked for maths.

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Placement of the missile defense system in Romania is however more suitable against targets launched in Iran or that region, if you consider the shortest flight path.

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As for the maths. There are mathematic 'theories' on both sides, they are not the same as mathematical facts. I asked for maths.

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UGagain wrote:
Napoleon, Hitler, Russia has good reason to be wary of its Western border with Europe.

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Is anyone trying to weaponise outer space, with frickin laser beams and nooks and stuff?
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morepork wrote:Is anyone trying to weaponise outer space, with frickin laser beams and nooks and stuff?
Seems not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty

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Sheshus.

I wonder when the first generation of SPACE LAWYERS will come out of academia.
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Space Law is already a thing.
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As for the maths. There are mathematic 'theories' on both sides, they are not the same as mathematical facts. I asked for maths.

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UGagain wrote:Image
I quite like the new one.

Good to see the not as cold as the cold war war going on.
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Len wrote:
UGagain wrote:Image
I quite like the new one.

Good to see the not as cold as the cold war war going on.
You didn't seriously believe that end f history crap did you? It's business as usual again.
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It never ended in London or Washington. And yes, it is all about business. Big business and the profits of the rich and fatuous.
As for the maths. There are mathematic 'theories' on both sides, they are not the same as mathematical facts. I asked for maths.

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Sandydragon wrote:
Len wrote:
UGagain wrote:Image
I quite like the new one.

Good to see the not as cold as the cold war war going on.
You didn't seriously believe that end f history crap did you? It's business as usual again.
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Stephen F. Cohen: NATO escalates and Russian fulminates

As for the maths. There are mathematic 'theories' on both sides, they are not the same as mathematical facts. I asked for maths.

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