Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Stom · Post by **Stom** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:26 am

So Lavinini, Puja?

And also, May has seriously become a quality player in all aspects. The presence of mind to call the mark and stop the quick play to call for the TMO...

Post by **cashead** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:26 am

Lavannini getting sent off has been some time coming. He’s probably fucked the Pumas’ chances.

hugh_woatmeigh · Post by **hugh_woatmeigh** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:27 am

Oh it's a clear red card but the amount of cards in this RWC is now unprecedented and we're still in the pool stages. Players need to be given the proper time & training to adapt. Refs letting clear reds fly & carding debatable offences doesn't help the confusion.

Stom · Post by **Stom** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:27 am

cashead wrote:Lavannini getting sent off has been some time coming. He’s probably fucked the Pumas’ chances.

That's the exact type of tackle we need to remove from the game.

Leading with the shoulder needs to be stamped out.

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:28 am

Ice man

Oakboy · Post by **Oakboy** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:28 am

Why did Daly not take that long-range kick?

Stom · Post by **Stom** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:29 am

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Oh it's a clear red card but the amount of cards in this RWC is now unprecedented and we're still in the pool stages. Players need to be given the proper time & training to adapt. Refs letting clear reds fly & carding debatable offences doesn't help the confusion.

I completely disagree with the first point.

It's been coming for a while, we've been talking about high tackles, leading with the shoulder, not wrapping, etc. So to be sent off for it should be no surprise. Get lower, don't lead with the shoulder, wrap your arms properly.

Secondly, yes, I agree. Lead with the shoulder, you're carded. Lead with the shoulder high, you're off permanently.

Galfon · Post by **Galfon** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:30 am

Faz 2nd miss - need points at this stage to calm the jitters.The match is descending....

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:30 am

Our handling is awful. Faz seems to be at 10 mostly.

Manu dim

Oakboy · Post by **Oakboy** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:30 am

That looked a yellow.

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:31 am

Oakboy wrote:That looked a yellow.

How so?

Oakboy · Post by **Oakboy** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:32 am

Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:That looked a yellow.
How so?

Tackle with player off the ground.

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:33 am

Well that was fckin awful

Which Tyler · Post by **Which Tyler** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:33 am

Wait - we have 2 threads for this match? sorry, I just posted in the "wrong" one.

Can someone remind what HIA stands for?

I was under the impression that it was for Head Injury Assessment, but it seems to be for "Loss of Conscioussness Assessment".
That's the 2nd clean hit to the head for Farrell in as many games - he should at the least, have to be getting an HIA.

bruce · Post by **bruce** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:33 am

Stom wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Oh it's a clear red card but the amount of cards in this RWC is now unprecedented and we're still in the pool stages. Players need to be given the proper time & training to adapt. Refs letting clear reds fly & carding debatable offences doesn't help the confusion.
I completely disagree with the first point.

It's been coming for a while, we've been talking about high tackles, leading with the shoulder, not wrapping, etc. So to be sent off for it should be no surprise. Get lower, don't lead with the shoulder, wrap your arms properly.

Secondly, yes, I agree. Lead with the shoulder, you're carded. Lead with the shoulder high, you're off permanently.

Nothing wrong with that tackle other than the height. Shame for the spectacle and competiveness of the game.

Stom · Post by **Stom** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:33 am

Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:That looked a yellow.
How so?

I agree. slight mistiming. Not particularly dangerous.

old-n-slo-2nd-row · Post by **old-n-slo-2nd-row** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:34 am

Iceman kicking stats not getting any better. Billy three carries, three knock ons .. I cannot believe how much May has matured, I am converted.

Stom · Post by **Stom** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:34 am

bruce wrote:
Stom wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Oh it's a clear red card but the amount of cards in this RWC is now unprecedented and we're still in the pool stages. Players need to be given the proper time & training to adapt. Refs letting clear reds fly & carding debatable offences doesn't help the confusion.
I completely disagree with the first point.

It's been coming for a while, we've been talking about high tackles, leading with the shoulder, not wrapping, etc. So to be sent off for it should be no surprise. Get lower, don't lead with the shoulder, wrap your arms properly.

Secondly, yes, I agree. Lead with the shoulder, you're carded. Lead with the shoulder high, you're off permanently.
Nothing wrong with that tackle other than the height. Shame for the spectacle and competiveness of the game.

Really?

Which Tyler · Post by **Which Tyler** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:35 am

bruce wrote:
Stom wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Oh it's a clear red card but the amount of cards in this RWC is now unprecedented and we're still in the pool stages. Players need to be given the proper time & training to adapt. Refs letting clear reds fly & carding debatable offences doesn't help the confusion.
I completely disagree with the first point.

It's been coming for a while, we've been talking about high tackles, leading with the shoulder, not wrapping, etc. So to be sent off for it should be no surprise. Get lower, don't lead with the shoulder, wrap your arms properly.

Secondly, yes, I agree. Lead with the shoulder, you're carded. Lead with the shoulder high, you're off permanently.
Nothing wrong with that tackle other than the height. Shame for the spectacle and competiveness of the game.

That's a pretty big "other than" - there was nothing wrong with it, apart from the fact that it was outright dangerous and rightly outlawed from the game

Freddo · Post by **Freddo** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:35 am

That's a belated red for the hit on Hughes' knee.

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:37 am

Oakboy wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:That looked a yellow.
How so?
Tackle with player off the ground.

Not dangerous tho

bruce · Post by **bruce** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:38 am

Which Tyler wrote:
bruce wrote:
Stom wrote:
I completely disagree with the first point.

It's been coming for a while, we've been talking about high tackles, leading with the shoulder, not wrapping, etc. So to be sent off for it should be no surprise. Get lower, don't lead with the shoulder, wrap your arms properly.

Secondly, yes, I agree. Lead with the shoulder, you're carded. Lead with the shoulder high, you're off permanently.
Nothing wrong with that tackle other than the height. Shame for the spectacle and competiveness of the game.
That's a pretty big "other than" - there was nothing wrong with it, apart from the fact that it was outright dangerous and rightly outlawed from the game

I don't disagree it's a red card offence, however Stom was intimating it was a shoulder charge as well.

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:38 am

Poor poor match so far

old-n-slo-2nd-row · Post by **old-n-slo-2nd-row** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:38 am

Stom wrote:It's been coming for a while, we've been talking about high tackles, leading with the shoulder, not wrapping, etc. So to be sent off for it should be no surprise. Get lower, don't lead with the shoulder, wrap your arms properly.

Secondly, yes, I agree. Lead with the shoulder, you're carded. Lead with the shoulder high, you're off permanently.

100%.

Australia this morning were still tackling like rugby league. Players should not need to “relearn”. We have been coaching to tackle low for ever .. it’s about time this is enforced as it is the only way it will change.

Stom · Post by **Stom** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:38 am

Farrell has learnt! He pulled out of what would have been a dangerous tackle!

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