Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Freddo · Post by **Freddo** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:39 am

The ice in Farrell's veins is melting in this humidity. Some shite kicking so far.

Which Tyler · Post by **Which Tyler** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:39 am

bruce wrote:
Which Tyler wrote:
bruce wrote: Nothing wrong with that tackle other than the height. Shame for the spectacle and competiveness of the game.
That's a pretty big "other than" - there was nothing wrong with it, apart from the fact that it was outright dangerous and rightly outlawed from the game
I don't disagree it's a red card offence, however Stom was intimating it was a shoulder charge as well.

Yeah, I'm not defending that bit - he had both arms out, and wrapped... about 3 feet above Farrell's head (exaggeration for effect)

Stom wrote:Farrell has learnt! He pulled out of what would have been a dangerous tackle!

switchskier · Post by **switchskier** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:40 am

Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:
Banquo wrote: How so?
Tackle with player off the ground.
Not dangerous tho

Isn't there an argument that he took a player in the air and didn't return him safely to the ground? For the record I think it was sensible reffing and the right decision but with some other refs it would have been yellow and that's an issue.

Galfon · Post by **Galfon** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:42 am

Great position lost by handling error in midfield.
Arg will be happy at being able to hang on though puffing
a bit.

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:43 am

switchskier wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:
Tackle with player off the ground.
Not dangerous tho
Isn't there an argument that he took a player in the air and didn't return him safely to the ground? For the record I think it was sensible reffing and the right decision but with some other refs it would have been yellow and that's an issue.

You’ve answered your own question

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:46 am

Billy should go off

hugh_woatmeigh · Post by **hugh_woatmeigh** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:46 am

old-n-slo-2nd-row wrote:
Stom wrote:It's been coming for a while, we've been talking about high tackles, leading with the shoulder, not wrapping, etc. So to be sent off for it should be no surprise. Get lower, don't lead with the shoulder, wrap your arms properly.

Secondly, yes, I agree. Lead with the shoulder, you're carded. Lead with the shoulder high, you're off permanently.
100%.

Australia this morning were still tackling like rugby league. Players should not need to “relearn”. We have been coaching to tackle low for ever .. it’s about time this is enforced as it is the only way it will change.

Should have issued the crack down at the start of last season though. It's ruining games by making them one sided.

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:46 am

Daly passed a tad early then

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Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:48 am

WaspInWales wrote:Daly passed a tad early then

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Yep

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:49 am

Ffs ice man

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old-n-slo-2nd-row · Post by **old-n-slo-2nd-row** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:50 am

Agree, a game too far for Billy, way too many basic mistakes and minimal impact in the carries. Some nice movement for a change but not making the last pass. Try should have come earlier. Pressure pays off. Farrell still nailing it ..

Galfon · Post by **Galfon** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:50 am

Nearly managed to blow that.
Try Daly , con missed, Faz. ( 7 points lost so far..)
Eng 10 - 3 Arg, 37 mins

Stom · Post by **Stom** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:51 am

bruce wrote:
Which Tyler wrote:
bruce wrote: Nothing wrong with that tackle other than the height. Shame for the spectacle and competiveness of the game.
That's a pretty big "other than" - there was nothing wrong with it, apart from the fact that it was outright dangerous and rightly outlawed from the game
I don't disagree it's a red card offence, however Stom was intimating it was a shoulder charge as well.

Not a charge, but leading with the point of the shoulder. I hate it because if that point catches you, it's very dangerous. We're not taught that, we're taught a round shoulder because it gives you more control.

It's all for the "hit", which is just so wrong.

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:51 am

Faz is having a blinder

Tho great touch there

Stom · Post by **Stom** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:52 am

Ice Man! Most unusual...It happened not so long ago...

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:52 am

old-n-slo-2nd-row wrote:Agree, a game too far for Billy, way too many basic mistakes and minimal impact in the carries. Some nice movement for a change but not making the last pass. Try should have come earlier. Pressure pays off. Farrell still nailing it ..

I meant his ankle

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:53 am

Fucking hell, Youngs is dreadful

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Stom · Post by **Stom** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:54 am

Why isn't dropping Curry a card? It's not a tackle but he dropped him on his head...

old-n-slo-2nd-row · Post by **old-n-slo-2nd-row** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:54 am

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Should have issued the crack down at the start of last season though. It's ruining games by making them one sided.

They’ve been given “last last warning” for over a year. Maybe enforcing it at the World Cup is the only way the message will get through. Agree it is having a major effect on some matches but so it should. Tackle properly and you have no problems

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:55 am

Redeemed [emoji23]

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Which Tyler · Post by **Which Tyler** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:55 am

WaspInWales wrote:Fucking hell, Youngs is dreadful

Yes - but quoting you for the timing.

Now, how many upright posts is Farrell seeing at the moment?

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:56 am

Youngs redeems himself a little after a succession of poor bits of distribution

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:56 am

How many times did Youngs choose the wrong option then? We were close to being turned over a few times

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Which Tyler · Post by **Which Tyler** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:56 am

Stom wrote:Why isn't dropping Curry a card? It's not a tackle but he dropped him on his head...

Probably because of Lavinini's red card. Reds often buy a little leniency for the other 14

old-n-slo-2nd-row · Post by **old-n-slo-2nd-row** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:57 am

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