Scoring against the post protector

[Puja]

Is now officiallt no longer valid: https://www.world.rugby/news/569171?lang=en

Good decision, in my opinion. It was a quirky law that complicated both defending and attacking on the goal line and encouraged interminable pick and drives.

Also a bit of feedback in that article about the law trials that were going on. Apparently 50:22 has been broadly promising, as has lowering the tackle height.

Puja

[Danno]

Completely agree with this, especially after the 3rd paragraph in that article, i.e. teams were intentionally lifting the goddamn post pillows to prevent a score

What the hell is wrong with people.

Also it's about time Which rolled by with the Haskell gif

[Digby]

Excellent, be best of course if paired with those recessed posts so it's not even an issue, and to reduce the chance of collision with a post

[Lizard]

It made sense when the post pad was a half-inch thick bit of sacking that used to contain a wad of horsehair. The damn things are a yard wide now.

[Puja]

Completely agree with this, especially after the 3rd paragraph in that article, i.e. teams were intentionally lifting the goddamn post pillows to prevent a score

What the hell is wrong with people.

Also it's about time Which rolled by with the Haskell gif

Good point:



It'll also have the major advantage of stopping commentators reminding us that they know that law every single time there's an attack on the line somewhere within the 15m line.

Puja

[Mikey Brown]

Completely agree with this, especially after the 3rd paragraph in that article, i.e. teams were intentionally lifting the goddamn post pillows to prevent a score

What the hell is wrong with people.

Also it's about time Which rolled by with the Haskell gif

Good point:



It'll also have the major advantage of stopping commentators reminding us that they know that law every single time there's an attack on the line somewhere within the 15m line.

Puja

It’s worth it for that alone, but I agree it should be gone anyway. If you’re offside by blocking the post it just seems unfair as a defender.

[Mikey Brown]

Also seems relevant.

[twitchy]

Excellent, be best of course if paired with those recessed posts so it's not even an issue, and to reduce the chance of collision with a post

This is a good long term solution. Medium term how about just moving the posts back 1/2 metres. It would make kicking slightly harder but it would be the same for every one.

[Digby]

Excellent, be best of course if paired with those recessed posts so it's not even an issue, and to reduce the chance of collision with a post

This is a good long term solution. Medium term how about just moving the posts back 1/2 metres. It would make kicking slightly harder but it would be the same for every one.

Or even move the posts back as the near, medium and long term and just make kicking more unappealing period

[Peej]

I think having NFL posts could really be the solution to this. Though presumably you'd have to anchor it at one point on the dead-ball line? Or just behind it?

The risk of a kick into the deadfall area with chasing players wouldn't entirely remove the risk of collisions with a protector - though what would be interesting is if you kicked a ball through and bounced back off the post protector and stayed in play? Still, nothing that a simple law change/adaptation couldn't fix.

[Puja]

I think having NFL posts could really be the solution to this. Though presumably you'd have to anchor it at one point on the dead-ball line? Or just behind it?

The risk of a kick into the deadfall area with chasing players wouldn't entirely remove the risk of collisions with a protector - though what would be interesting is if you kicked a ball through and bounced back off the post protector and stayed in play? Still, nothing that a simple law change/adaptation couldn't fix.

You already do have that situation with the posts where they are and, to a lesser extent, the corner flags. It's not really a problem.

I don't see a massive need to move the posts. If we all had a million pounds, then sure I can see minor benefits, but top level clubs don't all have the money to buy and resit a new set of posts, let alone community clubs. It's a cannon to kill a mosquito.

Puja

[Which Tyler]

You already do have that situation with the posts where they are and, to a lesser extent, the corner flags. It's not really a problem.

I don't see a massive need to move the posts. If we all had a million pounds, then sure I can see minor benefits, but top level clubs don't all have the money to buy and resit a new set of posts, let alone community clubs. It's a cannon to kill a mosquito.

Whilst, for the sake of comparison; moving the posts back by 30cm costs... a tin of paint (no need to resite the posts, shrinking the pitch by 60cm won't be making a big difference

[Digby]

I think having NFL posts could really be the solution to this. Though presumably you'd have to anchor it at one point on the dead-ball line? Or just behind it?

The risk of a kick into the deadfall area with chasing players wouldn't entirely remove the risk of collisions with a protector - though what would be interesting is if you kicked a ball through and bounced back off the post protector and stayed in play? Still, nothing that a simple law change/adaptation couldn't fix.

You already do have that situation with the posts where they are and, to a lesser extent, the corner flags. It's not really a problem.

I don't see a massive need to move the posts. If we all had a million pounds, then sure I can see minor benefits, but top level clubs don't all have the money to buy and resit a new set of posts, let alone community clubs. It's a cannon to kill a mosquito.

Puja

If anyone has a club that thinks it costs a million pounds to resite some posts I'm happy to provide a highly competitive bid

[Beasties]

Excellent, be best of course if paired with those recessed posts so it's not even an issue, and to reduce the chance of collision with a post

This is a good long term solution. Medium term how about just moving the posts back 1/2 metres. It would make kicking slightly harder but it would be the same for every one.

Or even move the posts back as the near, medium and long term and just make kicking more unappealing period

I can't like this post enough. There'd have to be uniform dead ball distance though.

[Beasties]

You already do have that situation with the posts where they are and, to a lesser extent, the corner flags. It's not really a problem.

I don't see a massive need to move the posts. If we all had a million pounds, then sure I can see minor benefits, but top level clubs don't all have the money to buy and resit a new set of posts, let alone community clubs. It's a cannon to kill a mosquito.

Whilst, for the sake of comparison; moving the posts back by 30cm costs... a tin of paint (no need to resite the posts, shrinking the pitch by 60cm won't be making a big difference

Good idea, but just altering the law as they are going to negates the need for anything else to be done.

It was a stupid law anyway, it favoured the attacking team and disadvantaged the defending team for no good reason. If you've got the ball you can determine where you go with it ffs.

[loudnconfident]

Whilst, for the sake of comparison; moving the posts back by 30cm costs... a tin of paint (no need to resite the posts, shrinking the pitch by 60cm won't be making a big difference

Perhaps they should divide the goal-line into 5-meter-wide strips. Then alter the scoring such that a try scored in the 5-meter "strip" from the touchline is 10 points, then 9 for the next segment, and so on until the "posts" segment which is 4 points. A bit like a reversed archery target. This would encourage play away from the posts.

It is also a major change, technically complicated and hard to referee. (I just hope the IRB don't read RR or it will be introduced ASAP.)

[Danno]

Please no. I already have to explain something every 14 seconds watching a match in the pub with my "six nations only" friends

[Lizard]

I played a match on an American Football pitch once. It was at Graz University in Austria. I can't remember whether the posts were NFL style or just regular "H" shape so they can't have had much effect on the match. What had more effect on the match was that it was played in a constant downpour and after about 50 minutes the groundsman ordered us off so we didn't ruin his pitch.

The other match we played on that tour was in Munich, on a pitch that seemed to be a recently felled section of forest. I managed to avoid the stumps and score two tries, though.

[Digby]

I played a match on an American Football pitch once. It was at Graz University in Austria. I can't remember whether the posts were NFL style or just regular "H" shape so they can't have had much effect on the match. What had more effect on the match was that it was played in a constant downpour and after about 50 minutes the groundsman ordered us off so we didn't ruin his pitch.

The other match we played on that tour was in Munich, on a pitch that seemed to be a recently felled section of forest. I managed to avoid the stumps and score two tries, though.

You just have no respect for props