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Ireland were impressive today. Most of the match with 14 and they almost won.
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“Jonny Hill will be disappointed about giving away a penalty and field position 5 metres from the Scottish line, as he goes off his feet at the ruck a dozen times a game for Exeter and hadn’t realised it was illegal.”
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twitchy wrote:Ireland were impressive today. Most of the match with 14 and they almost won.
Ireland are always good at retaining ball but the problems from the Autumn are still there, very difficult to see where the attacking shape is

Feels like Sexton wants to win every game 9-6
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Mikey Brown wrote:“Jonny Hill will be disappointed about giving away a penalty and field position 5 metres from the Scottish line, as he goes off his feet at the ruck a dozen times a game for Exeter and hadn’t realised it was illegal.”
I felt the analysis was very kind to Hill there in claiming Hogg was trying to jackal - he was sort of present, I guess, but hardly locked onto the ball and an international lock should've just blasted a full-back away there without any need to cheat at all.

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fivepointer wrote:These kind of things happened routinely during the 6ns and the autumn games. Its not a one off. Failing to play what is in front of us has now become a chronic weakness.

It looks coached, and it looks like Farrell carries out that plan with robotic application no matter the situation, hence the continued selection. Is this game plan philosophy all the rage in domestic comps?
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Just rewatched it Jones's interview at the end is amazing. He's so pissed off at the suggestion of Lawrence possibly being able to get more than 2 touches. He might be the most passive aggressive person I've ever seen.

Wilkinson as abstract and philosophical as usual, but I actually think his summary of England's position was perfect.
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He is an interesting character is Wilkinson.
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Mikey Brown wrote:Just rewatched it Jones's interview at the end is amazing. He's so pissed off at the suggestion of Lawrence possibly being able to get more than 2 touches. He might be the most passive aggressive person I've ever seen.

Wilkinson as abstract and philosophical as usual, but I actually think his summary of England's position was perfect.
What did Wilkinson say?
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badback wrote:
Mikey Brown wrote:Just rewatched it Jones's interview at the end is amazing. He's so pissed off at the suggestion of Lawrence possibly being able to get more than 2 touches. He might be the most passive aggressive person I've ever seen.

Wilkinson as abstract and philosophical as usual, but I actually think his summary of England's position was perfect.
What did Wilkinson say?
Hard to paraphrase given his rambling style, but he was talking about his experience working yourself into a rut as a team, knowing what you were doing before produced wins "so why isn't it working now we're trying even harder?" and just having nowhere else to go after that.

Watched that next level video. Really weird seeing the game footage with the atmosphere as it must have felt for an onlooker. I wonder if that's actually more off-putting for the home side in some ways, in addition to not having their home fans? I know they've all been playing in empty stadiums for ages now but it seemed striking in that clip.

Really looked like Hill should have done a better job trying to clear out Redpath.

Farrell's talk about making stuff happen is quality. Maybe he should be the coach after all.
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I'd have been sat there thinking "Weren't you the one meant to make it happen?"
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Just watched the first half again. We had a little bit of attacking intent early on, a few nice carries and passes. Curry and Wilson working like hell, but the player who's really caught my eye for workrate is Genge, he's looking for work, making tackles and really rushing back to his feet.
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Great bit of work to stop Watson going over too.
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Raggs wrote:Just watched the first half again. We had a little bit of attacking intent early on, a few nice carries and passes. Curry and Wilson working like hell, but the player who's really caught my eye for workrate is Genge, he's looking for work, making tackles and really rushing back to his feet.

This was the frustrating part, they showed very clearly in very small bursts there was so much more to come, and then decided to just give away penalties instead.

I was though amused by Farrell saying he wasn't disturbed by having the fly-half duties, it's a salient point when he relied so much on kicking the ball than looking at what was going on as say a fly-half might. He might in future given some though to allowing some thoughts in and being a little more disturbed, the assumption you can play without being disturbed as a 10 is disturbing
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On second watch I was even more convinced that if our discipline had been even vaguely at normal levels we’d have found a way to win. It was bizarre just quite how brainless we were.
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Mr Mwenda wrote:The Scots are sounding a bit bullish.
Are we? Where?
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Wtf!!!!
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I R Geech wrote:
Mr Mwenda wrote:The Scots are sounding a bit bullish.
Are we? Where?
Oops, do excuse me, started on page 1.
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I R Geech wrote:
I R Geech wrote:
Mr Mwenda wrote:The Scots are sounding a bit bullish.
Are we? Where?
Oops, do excuse me, started on page 1.
:lol:

Says a lot that it is entirely plausible that we'd already have 14 pages on this match.
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I R Geech wrote:
I R Geech wrote:
Mr Mwenda wrote:The Scots are sounding a bit bullish.
Are we? Where?
Oops, do excuse me, started on page 1.
:lol:
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Danno wrote:
I R Geech wrote:
I R Geech wrote: Are we? Where?
Oops, do excuse me, started on page 1.
:lol:

Says a lot that it is entirely plausible that we'd already have 14 pages on this match.
I’m now assuming the thread got Irished long ago and will get back in my bothy for a week
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I R Pi55ed?
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Peak RR.
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Banquo wrote:I R Pi55ed?
Good lord no, I would never admit I made a mistake and apologise when pissed...
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Excellent
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