Team vs Scotland

[Stom]

What is the ref doing? Why would we take this down?

[FKAS]

Wad 14 blue ever on his feet there?

No.

[badback]

Ehh

[FKAS]

LCD cost us that game.

[Puja]

How was Graham on his feet for that turnover?

Not the point - Scotland did well to stay in the game and eke out a win and we threw it away.

Puja

[Shiny]

Yup, dumb decisions from England.

[Which Tyler]

TBF, ref may have bottled the last 2 decisions - but we should never have been in the position that either mattered - that much is 100% LCD's fault.

[Mellsblue]

LCD cost us that game.

I think it’s a bit more complex than that.

[p/d]

Why the feck was Ford brought on and Youngs given 80!! LCD an idiot, our wings pants and not bringing Nowell on until 81mins on the clock.

Great stuff Eddie

[jngf]

Well deserved win by Scotland.

Big point: Sam Simmonds looks most potent when presented with the ball in his hands to exploit his gap using his explosive pace. I simply don’t see him looking at home with the tight “piano shifting” elements of no.8 at test level. He’s a very talented player but you start him at either 6,7 or at a pinch 12 at this level.

Btw what was the point of sticking Dombrandt at 6 and leaving Simmonds at 8 when Ludlum was subbed?

[p/d]

LCD cost us that game.

I think it’s a bit more complex than that.

Indeed. Our barrow defence leading up to it was compounded by Mallins missing the tackle

[switchskier]

Wad 14 blue ever on his feet there?

No.

Yes

[Mr Mwenda]

How was Graham on his feet for that turnover?

Not the point - Scotland did well to stay in the game and eke out a win and we threw it away.

Puja

Yes. But God I hate games like that. Really unimpressive.

[El Tigre]

All Ford's fault, right?

[Mellsblue]

All Ford's fault, right?

Yep. It’s a good job he only got 20ish mins.

[p/d]

Well deserved win by Scotland.

Big point: Sam Simmonds looks most potent when presented with the ball in his hands to exploit his gap using his explosive pace. I simply don’t see him looking at home with the tight “piano shifting” elements of no.8 at test level. He’s a very talented player but you start him at either 6,7 or at a pinch 12.

Yes, of course, that’s what cost us

[Mr Mwenda]

All Ford's fault, right?

I thought Ford did show why Farrell does the kicking for touch from penalties.

[FKAS]

LCD cost us that game.

I think it’s a bit more complex than that.

Indeed. Our barrow defence leading up to it was compounded by Mallins missing the tackle

Malins seemed to slip over when going into contact a few times. Perhaps a poor boot choice there.

LCD either catches or even concedes a normal try there and I think we're ok. The period of being down a man gave Scotland a lot of momentum.

[Which Tyler]

LCD cost us that game.

I think it’s a bit more complex than that.

In terms of "what went wrong?" yes, much.
In terms of "what lost us that game?" no, not even slightly.

Nothing else resulted in such a momentum change. Nothing else cost us a man on the pitch. Nothing else turned a point lead to points level, to go with the momentum change.

[Scrumhead]

Well deserved win by Scotland.

Big point: Sam Simmonds looks most potent when presented with the ball in his hands to exploit his gap using his explosive pace. I simply don’t see him looking at home with the tight “piano shifting” elements of no.8 at test level. He’s a very talented player but you start him at either 6,7 or at a pinch 12 at this level.

Btw what was the point of sticking Dombrandt at 6 and leaving Simmonds at 8 when Ludlum was subbed?

In fairness to you, I thought Ludlam was one of our best players, but I absolutely refuse to accept that win was ‘deserved’ by Scotland.

[Mellsblue]

LCD cost us that game.

I think it’s a bit more complex than that.

In terms of "what went wrong?" yes, much.
In terms of "what lost us that game?" no, not even slightly.

A distinction without a difference.

[FKAS]

Why the feck was Ford brought on and Youngs given 80!! LCD an idiot, our wings pants and not bringing Nowell on until 81mins on the clock.

Great stuff Eddie

Ford came on because Smith barely featured despite having lots of ball.

Youngs played 80 mins because Randall isn't an international scrum half and Eddie didn't want someone that can't kick at 9 when we were in an arm wrestle in poor conditions.

[El Tigre]

All Ford's fault, right?

I thought Ford did show why Farrell does the kicking for touch from penalties.

Slade had been kicking to touch earlier. Not sure why he didn't take that one

[Mr Mwenda]

At the risk of agreeing with jngf, it's clear England need to find a way to use Simmonds better or find someone else. The Scots were ready for him and got a couple of turnovers from his charges.

[WaspInWales]

Putting LCD's dick move aside, Eddie Jones lost us that game.

We were completely in control thanks to Smith and the forwards, so why the fuck take one of our best players off and leave Youngs on the pitch?!

I stopped watching at the penalty try as I knew we'd lose from there.