Premiership Run in
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- Gloskarlos
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I can only really see Glos getting 8 points max from the three remaining games frankly. Top 6 will do this season. Top 4 next.
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Do think a few of these remaining games are going to be affected by clubs resting/rotating players. Those involved in the Euro semi's and possibly finals are bound to stand down the odd player, and the teams guaranteed a play off spot may rest some for the final round of Prem games.
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I think Saracens will almost certainly rotate against Worcester this weekend.
We’ll see the side Worcester name for the Prem Cup semi today, but I don’t think they have the depth to rotate as much as they’ll want to unless it is purely an academy side.
Saracens’ squad players are good enough to rack up a win which would allow them to rest their frontline players for the Challenge Cup. Gloucester need every point they can get so won’t be in a position to rotate much (if at all) which makes that a tough game for them sandwiched in between their remaining league fixtures.
I would expect Tigers to rest players on the final round and if Quins’ play off place is assured by then, we may well do so too.
We’ll see the side Worcester name for the Prem Cup semi today, but I don’t think they have the depth to rotate as much as they’ll want to unless it is purely an academy side.
Saracens’ squad players are good enough to rack up a win which would allow them to rest their frontline players for the Challenge Cup. Gloucester need every point they can get so won’t be in a position to rotate much (if at all) which makes that a tough game for them sandwiched in between their remaining league fixtures.
I would expect Tigers to rest players on the final round and if Quins’ play off place is assured by then, we may well do so too.
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I don't know Tigers will rest too many in the final round - we'll have had a game against Newcastle the week before to rest the important people like Genge, Ford, Wigglesworth, and Steward, and I think Borthwick will want the undefeated home season. Sorry Wasps.Scrumhead wrote:I think Saracens will almost certainly rotate against Worcester this weekend.
We’ll see the side Worcester name for the Prem Cup semi today, but I don’t think they have the depth to rotate as much as they’ll want to unless it is purely an academy side.
Saracens’ squad players are good enough to rack up a win which would allow them to rest their frontline players for the Challenge Cup. Gloucester need every point they can get so won’t be in a position to rotate much (if at all) which makes that a tough game for them sandwiched in between their remaining league fixtures.
I would expect Tigers to rest players on the final round and if Quins’ play off place is assured by then, we may well do so too.
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Very much agree. Go hard at home and get momentum and with any luck an undefeated league season at home. Make WR a fortress once again. Newcastle the week before is the ideal game to rotate, keep squad competition high and everyone fresh.Puja wrote:I don't know Tigers will rest too many in the final round - we'll have had a game against Newcastle the week before to rest the important people like Genge, Ford, Wigglesworth, and Steward, and I think Borthwick will want the undefeated home season. Sorry Wasps.Scrumhead wrote:I think Saracens will almost certainly rotate against Worcester this weekend.
We’ll see the side Worcester name for the Prem Cup semi today, but I don’t think they have the depth to rotate as much as they’ll want to unless it is purely an academy side.
Saracens’ squad players are good enough to rack up a win which would allow them to rest their frontline players for the Challenge Cup. Gloucester need every point they can get so won’t be in a position to rotate much (if at all) which makes that a tough game for them sandwiched in between their remaining league fixtures.
I would expect Tigers to rest players on the final round and if Quins’ play off place is assured by then, we may well do so too.
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Ah yeah. That does make more sense I guess.
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Think the only way Wasps get a look in, is if Tigers already have that top spot sewn up. It won't be a weak team, but they might be a little more relaxed. Equally, that could just mean they look to play and score a ton of points.
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I wonder how much this weekend’s European results will come in to the Premiership run-in?
Saracens now have Toulon to play next weekend and then if they win (which I think they will), they’ll have a final a week prior to the play-off semis. While 2nd isn’t guaranteed yet, the only way Quins can overhaul them is if we get 9 or 10 points and Saracens get nothing. We might get the wins, but I don’t see them losing both of their final games. The question is whether the additional 1 or 2 games stretches their squad/introduces a bit more fatigue going in to the play-offs?
Tigers can now focus on the Premiership so I think they can choose when and if they want to rotate. I think they’ll want the 100% home record so I could see them choosing to rotate away to Falcons in R25 and then go full strength in R26 to build momentum for the play off semis.
The additional game for Wasps doesn’t change too much, but it might mean some rotation for R25.
Saracens now have Toulon to play next weekend and then if they win (which I think they will), they’ll have a final a week prior to the play-off semis. While 2nd isn’t guaranteed yet, the only way Quins can overhaul them is if we get 9 or 10 points and Saracens get nothing. We might get the wins, but I don’t see them losing both of their final games. The question is whether the additional 1 or 2 games stretches their squad/introduces a bit more fatigue going in to the play-offs?
Tigers can now focus on the Premiership so I think they can choose when and if they want to rotate. I think they’ll want the 100% home record so I could see them choosing to rotate away to Falcons in R25 and then go full strength in R26 to build momentum for the play off semis.
The additional game for Wasps doesn’t change too much, but it might mean some rotation for R25.
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Glos now out of Europe and domestic cup so two games left to see what is possible. All out against Quins and Sarries. Quins desperate for victory, can't really see Glos getting more than a point out of that game, perhaps 2. Sarries might be a different kettle of fish by then, but again, realistically, a point or two at best. So 4th stays with Saints as they have Newcastle to play, and even if that is just a 4 point victory, that will be enough I think.
Top 7 unchanged from todays table is my prediction
Top 7 unchanged from todays table is my prediction
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Depends if Wasps beat Lyon this weekend. If they do they will do a lot of rotation in the Prem. But I don't see it happening. And having thrown away the result against Irish in the last Prem round, I don't see them making Top 8 either.
Wasps season is basically about this coming weekend and Lyon.
Wasps season is basically about this coming weekend and Lyon.
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Indeed. I don’t really expect to see Wasps beat Lyon. However, as you say, it’s really all they have to play for, so they may throw the kitchen sink at it.
O/T but I did notice Joel Kpoku was on the Lyon bench last weekend. I wonder how he’s doing out there? For all he hype he had coming through, he hasn’t amounted to a great deal as yet.
*update - from what I’ve found he’s started twice and had 3 sub appearances for a total of 157mins.
O/T but I did notice Joel Kpoku was on the Lyon bench last weekend. I wonder how he’s doing out there? For all he hype he had coming through, he hasn’t amounted to a great deal as yet.
*update - from what I’ve found he’s started twice and had 3 sub appearances for a total of 157mins.
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I think he arrived with an injury and also had a period out with covid. The minutes he’s had have all been in recent weeks and he’s done well. Made a 40m break that led to a try a couple of games ago.Scrumhead wrote:Indeed. I don’t really expect to see Wasps beat Lyon. However, as you say, it’s really all they have to play for, so they may throw the kitchen sink at it.
O/T but I did notice Joel Kpoku was on the Lyon bench last weekend. I wonder how he’s doing out there? For all he hype he had coming through, he hasn’t amounted to a great deal as yet.
*update - from what I’ve found he’s started twice and had 3 sub appearances for a total of 157mins.
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glaws get five points and seek compensatiom- apols if old news.
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Yeah, those 5 points have already been added.
Next weekend is a big game for Quins, Gloucester and Saints. They all need wins to be confident of finishing in the top 4. ATM, Quins have the advantage right now, but if we lose to Gloucester I wouldn’t want to go to Sandy Park needing a win on the final day.
Next weekend is a big game for Quins, Gloucester and Saints. They all need wins to be confident of finishing in the top 4. ATM, Quins have the advantage right now, but if we lose to Gloucester I wouldn’t want to go to Sandy Park needing a win on the final day.
- Gloskarlos
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Can't really see that happening. Glos are not top 4 standard yet, blowing hot and cold and more inconsistent than ever in the last few games.
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I think Glos will lose at Quins and Saints will lose at Saracens. If either side can get a BP it could be crucial.
Saints have the big advantage of playing Newcastle at home in the final game. Glos have Saracens at home. They may be helped if Saracens rest a few players.
Saints have the big advantage of playing Newcastle at home in the final game. Glos have Saracens at home. They may be helped if Saracens rest a few players.
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It must have been the compensation point that was new then, Apols.Scrumhead wrote:Yeah, those 5 points have already been added.
Next weekend is a big game for Quins, Gloucester and Saints. They all need wins to be confident of finishing in the top 4. ATM, Quins have the advantage right now, but if we lose to Gloucester I wouldn’t want to go to Sandy Park needing a win on the final day.
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Quins vs. Gloucester is being held at Twickenham and is being branded as The Big Summer Kick Off. Good money spinner for us, but I’m hoping the sideshow and not actually being at home doesn’t come back to bite us.fivepointer wrote:I think Glos will lose at Quins and Saints will lose at Saracens. If either side can get a BP it could be crucial.
Saints have the big advantage of playing Newcastle at home in the final game. Glos have Saracens at home. They may be helped if Saracens rest a few players.
A lot will depend on how much and when Saracens rotate. It might depend on how they do vs. Toulon.
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It's on ITV as well. Sweet.Scrumhead wrote:Quins vs. Gloucester is being held at Twickenham and is being branded as The Big Summer Kick Off. Good money spinner for us, but I’m hoping the sideshow and not actually being at home doesn’t come back to bite us.fivepointer wrote:I think Glos will lose at Quins and Saints will lose at Saracens. If either side can get a BP it could be crucial.
Saints have the big advantage of playing Newcastle at home in the final game. Glos have Saracens at home. They may be helped if Saracens rest a few players.
A lot will depend on how much and when Saracens rotate. It might depend on how they do vs. Toulon.
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Not like you're going a distance away from your fanbase though and you do tend to do quite well in the big matches. I'd say it's likely to be a bigger posiive than a negative.Scrumhead wrote:Quins vs. Gloucester is being held at Twickenham and is being branded as The Big Summer Kick Off. Good money spinner for us, but I’m hoping the sideshow and not actually being at home doesn’t come back to bite us.fivepointer wrote:I think Glos will lose at Quins and Saints will lose at Saracens. If either side can get a BP it could be crucial.
Saints have the big advantage of playing Newcastle at home in the final game. Glos have Saracens at home. They may be helped if Saracens rest a few players.
A lot will depend on how much and when Saracens rotate. It might depend on how they do vs. Toulon.
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Craig David doing a bit of singing will surely be a help too.
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Wonder if he'll bring Kes, bastard. Proper bo, I tell thee.
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We're good at Big Stoop.Puja wrote:Not like you're going a distance away from your fanbase though and you do tend to do quite well in the big matches. I'd say it's likely to be a bigger posiive than a negative.Scrumhead wrote:Quins vs. Gloucester is being held at Twickenham and is being branded as The Big Summer Kick Off. Good money spinner for us, but I’m hoping the sideshow and not actually being at home doesn’t come back to bite us.fivepointer wrote:I think Glos will lose at Quins and Saints will lose at Saracens. If either side can get a BP it could be crucial.
Saints have the big advantage of playing Newcastle at home in the final game. Glos have Saracens at home. They may be helped if Saracens rest a few players.
A lot will depend on how much and when Saracens rotate. It might depend on how they do vs. Toulon.
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He might be helping behind the scenes, as he has quite the CV in sports administration. He works for the British Archery Olympic Association as their Chief Bow Selector.Dan. Dan. Dan. wrote:Craig David doing a bit of singing will surely be a help too.
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You utter prickMellsblue wrote:He might be helping behind the scenes, as he has quite the CV in sports administration. He works for the British Archery Olympic Association as their Chief Bow Selector.Dan. Dan. Dan. wrote:Craig David doing a bit of singing will surely be a help too.
