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Quarterfinals
Quarterfinals then?
NZ v Wales
Canada v USA
France v Italy
England v Aus
Bit of a shame there are two games repeating the group games. Good to see Italy there who will want follow up their last win v the frogettes!
NZ v Wales
Canada v USA
France v Italy
England v Aus
Bit of a shame there are two games repeating the group games. Good to see Italy there who will want follow up their last win v the frogettes!
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Re: Quarterfinals
Was always fairly likely TBH. 2 out of 3 third places, which means the groups with the biggest whipping-girls would supply the third.
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Re: Quarterfinals
The All Blacks match against Japan this weekend is scheduled to be played at the same time as the Black Ferns quarter final against Wales. The match time was proposed by Japan Rugby but NZRU agreed to it.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/ ... ling-clashIn a statement released on Wednesday, NZR admitted not understanding the World Cup rules. “When Japan Rugby set the kick-off time for the All Blacks Test, NZR did not take into account ... that the host nation would play in the quarter-final two timeslot,” it read.
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Way to torpedo your own world cup
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Utter fuckwits and a pretty telling example of inappropriate priorities. I'll be watching the Ferns for sure.
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QF1: Sat, 4.20am (BST)
Ref: Hollie Davidson
TJs: Amber McLachlan & Tyler Miller
TMO: Ben Whitehouse
France
1 Annaelle Deshaye
2 Agathe Sochat
3 Clara Joyeux
4 Celine Ferer
5 Madoussou Fall
6 Gaëlle Hermet
7 Marjorie Mayans
8 Charlotte Escudero
9 Pauline Bourdon
10 Caroline Drouin
11 Marine Menager
12 Gabrielle Vernier
13 Maelle Filopon
14 Joanna Grisez
15 Emilie Boulard
16 Laure Touye, 17 Coco Lindelauf, 18 Assia Khalfaoui, 19 Safi N'Diaye, 20 Emeline Gros
21 Alexandra Chambon, 22 Lina Queyroi, 23 Chloe Jacquet
Italy
1 Silvia Turani
2 Melissa Bettoni
3 Lucia Gai
4 Valeria Fedrighi
5 Giordana Duca
6 Francesca Sgorbini
7 Isabella Locatelli
8 Elisa Giordano
9 Sofia Stefan
10 Veronica Madia
11 Maria Magatti
12 Beatrice Rigoni
13 Michela Sillari
14 Aura Muzzo
15 Vittoria Ostuni Minuzzi
16 Vittoria Vecchini, 17 Gaia Maris, 18 Sara Seye, 19 Michela Merlo, 20 Beatrice Veronese
21 Sara Barattin, 22 Alyssa D'Inca, 23 Manuela Furlan
Ref: Hollie Davidson
TJs: Amber McLachlan & Tyler Miller
TMO: Ben Whitehouse
France
1 Annaelle Deshaye
2 Agathe Sochat
3 Clara Joyeux
4 Celine Ferer
5 Madoussou Fall
6 Gaëlle Hermet
7 Marjorie Mayans
8 Charlotte Escudero
9 Pauline Bourdon
10 Caroline Drouin
11 Marine Menager
12 Gabrielle Vernier
13 Maelle Filopon
14 Joanna Grisez
15 Emilie Boulard
16 Laure Touye, 17 Coco Lindelauf, 18 Assia Khalfaoui, 19 Safi N'Diaye, 20 Emeline Gros
21 Alexandra Chambon, 22 Lina Queyroi, 23 Chloe Jacquet
Italy
1 Silvia Turani
2 Melissa Bettoni
3 Lucia Gai
4 Valeria Fedrighi
5 Giordana Duca
6 Francesca Sgorbini
7 Isabella Locatelli
8 Elisa Giordano
9 Sofia Stefan
10 Veronica Madia
11 Maria Magatti
12 Beatrice Rigoni
13 Michela Sillari
14 Aura Muzzo
15 Vittoria Ostuni Minuzzi
16 Vittoria Vecchini, 17 Gaia Maris, 18 Sara Seye, 19 Michela Merlo, 20 Beatrice Veronese
21 Sara Barattin, 22 Alyssa D'Inca, 23 Manuela Furlan
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QF2: Sat, 7.30 (BST)
Ref: Aimee Barrett-Theron
TJs: Aurelie Groizeleau & Julianne Zussman
TMO: Chris Assmus
New Zealand
1 Phillippa Love
2 Georgia Ponsonby
3 Amy Rule
4 Maia Roos
5 Chelsea Bremner
6 Alana Bremner
7 Sarah Hirini
8 Liana Mikaele-Tu'u
9 Kendra Cocksedge
10 Ruahei Demant
11 Ayesha Leti-l'iga
12 Theresa Fitzpatrick
13 Stacey Fluhler
14 Portia Woodman
15 Ruby Tui
16 Luka Connor, 17 Krystal Murray, 18 Santo Taumata, 19 Joanah Ngan-Woo, 20 Kennedy Simon
21 Ariana Bayler, 22 Hazel Tubic, 23 Renee Holmes
Wales
1 Cara Hope
2 Carys Phillips
3 Donna Rose
4 Natalia John
5 Gwen Crabb
6 Bethan Lewis
7 Alex Callender
8 Sioned Harries
9 Keira Bevan
10 Elinor Snowsill
11 Lisa Neumann
12 Hannah Jones
13 Carys Williams-Morris
14 Lowri Norkett
15 Jasmine Joyce
16 Kelsey Jones, 17 Gwenllian Pyrs, 18 Sisilia Tuipulotu, 19 Georgia Evans, 20 Siwan Lillicrap
21 Ffion Lewis, 22 Lleucu George, 23 Megan Webb
Ref: Aimee Barrett-Theron
TJs: Aurelie Groizeleau & Julianne Zussman
TMO: Chris Assmus
New Zealand
1 Phillippa Love
2 Georgia Ponsonby
3 Amy Rule
4 Maia Roos
5 Chelsea Bremner
6 Alana Bremner
7 Sarah Hirini
8 Liana Mikaele-Tu'u
9 Kendra Cocksedge
10 Ruahei Demant
11 Ayesha Leti-l'iga
12 Theresa Fitzpatrick
13 Stacey Fluhler
14 Portia Woodman
15 Ruby Tui
16 Luka Connor, 17 Krystal Murray, 18 Santo Taumata, 19 Joanah Ngan-Woo, 20 Kennedy Simon
21 Ariana Bayler, 22 Hazel Tubic, 23 Renee Holmes
Wales
1 Cara Hope
2 Carys Phillips
3 Donna Rose
4 Natalia John
5 Gwen Crabb
6 Bethan Lewis
7 Alex Callender
8 Sioned Harries
9 Keira Bevan
10 Elinor Snowsill
11 Lisa Neumann
12 Hannah Jones
13 Carys Williams-Morris
14 Lowri Norkett
15 Jasmine Joyce
16 Kelsey Jones, 17 Gwenllian Pyrs, 18 Sisilia Tuipulotu, 19 Georgia Evans, 20 Siwan Lillicrap
21 Ffion Lewis, 22 Lleucu George, 23 Megan Webb
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QF3: Sun, 1.30 (GMT)
Ref: Maggie Cogger-Orr
TJs: Lauren Jenner & Kat Roche
TMO: Ben Whitehouse
Utrecht Shield Match
England
1 Vickii Cornborough
2 Amy Cokayne
3 Sarah Bern
4 Zoe Aldcroft
5 Abbie Ward
6 Alex Matthews
7 Marlie Packer
8 Sarah Hunter
9 Leanne Infante
10 Zoe Harrison
11 Abby Dow
12 Tatyana Heard
13 Emily Scarratt
14 Lydia Thompson
15 Helena Rowland
16 Lark Davies, 17 Hannah Botterman, 18 Maud Muir, 19 Rosie Galligan, 20 Poppy Cleall
21 Lucy Packer, 22 Holly Aitchison, 23 Ellie Kildunne
Australia
1 Liz Patu
2 Adiana Talakai
3 Bridie O'Gorman
4 Michaela Leonard
5 Grace Kemp
6 Emily Chancellor
7 Shannon Parry
8 Grace Hamilton
9 Layne Morgan
10 Arabella McKenzie
11 Lori Cramer
12 Sharni Williams
13 Georgina Friedrichs
14 Bienne Terita
15 Pauline Piliae-Rasabale
16 Tania Naden, 17 Emily Robinson, 18 Eva Karpani, 19 Sera Naiqama, 20 Piper Duck
21 Iliseva Batibasaga, 22 Cecilia Smith, 23 Mahalia Murphy
Ref: Maggie Cogger-Orr
TJs: Lauren Jenner & Kat Roche
TMO: Ben Whitehouse
Utrecht Shield Match
England
1 Vickii Cornborough
2 Amy Cokayne
3 Sarah Bern
4 Zoe Aldcroft
5 Abbie Ward
6 Alex Matthews
7 Marlie Packer
8 Sarah Hunter
9 Leanne Infante
10 Zoe Harrison
11 Abby Dow
12 Tatyana Heard
13 Emily Scarratt
14 Lydia Thompson
15 Helena Rowland
16 Lark Davies, 17 Hannah Botterman, 18 Maud Muir, 19 Rosie Galligan, 20 Poppy Cleall
21 Lucy Packer, 22 Holly Aitchison, 23 Ellie Kildunne
Australia
1 Liz Patu
2 Adiana Talakai
3 Bridie O'Gorman
4 Michaela Leonard
5 Grace Kemp
6 Emily Chancellor
7 Shannon Parry
8 Grace Hamilton
9 Layne Morgan
10 Arabella McKenzie
11 Lori Cramer
12 Sharni Williams
13 Georgina Friedrichs
14 Bienne Terita
15 Pauline Piliae-Rasabale
16 Tania Naden, 17 Emily Robinson, 18 Eva Karpani, 19 Sera Naiqama, 20 Piper Duck
21 Iliseva Batibasaga, 22 Cecilia Smith, 23 Mahalia Murphy
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QF4: Sun, 3.30 (GMT)
Ref: Joy Neville
TJs: Sara Cox & Clara Munarini
TMO: Ian Tempest
Canada
1 Olivia DeMerchant
2 Emily Tuttosi
3 DaLeaka Menin
4 Courtney Holtkamp
5 McKinley Hunt
6 Fabiola Forteza
7 Karen Paquin
8 Sophie De Goede
9 Justine Pelletier
10 Alex Tessier
11 Paige Farries
12 Sara Kaljuvee
13 Alysha Corrigan
14 Maddy Grant
15 Elissa Alarie
16 Gillian Boag, 17 Brittany Kassil, 18 Alexandria Ellis, 19 Ngalula Fuamba, 20 Tyson Beukeboom
21 Gabrielle Senft, 22 Pamphinette Buisa, 23 Anais Holly
USA
1 Hope Rogers
2 Joanna Kitlinski
3 Nick James
4 Kristine Sommer
5 Evi Ashenbrucker
6 Kathryn Johnson
7 Rachel Johnson
8 Kate Zackary
9 Carly Waters
10 Gabriella Cantorna
11 Lotte Clapp
12 Alev Kelter
13 Eti Haungatau
14 Jennine Detiveaux
15 Tess Feury
16 Kathryn Treder, 17 Catherine Benson, 18 Charli Jacoby, 19 Jenny Kronish, 20 Elizabeth Cairns
21 Bridget Kahele, 22 Katana Howard, 23 Meya Bizer
Ref: Joy Neville
TJs: Sara Cox & Clara Munarini
TMO: Ian Tempest
Canada
1 Olivia DeMerchant
2 Emily Tuttosi
3 DaLeaka Menin
4 Courtney Holtkamp
5 McKinley Hunt
6 Fabiola Forteza
7 Karen Paquin
8 Sophie De Goede
9 Justine Pelletier
10 Alex Tessier
11 Paige Farries
12 Sara Kaljuvee
13 Alysha Corrigan
14 Maddy Grant
15 Elissa Alarie
16 Gillian Boag, 17 Brittany Kassil, 18 Alexandria Ellis, 19 Ngalula Fuamba, 20 Tyson Beukeboom
21 Gabrielle Senft, 22 Pamphinette Buisa, 23 Anais Holly
USA
1 Hope Rogers
2 Joanna Kitlinski
3 Nick James
4 Kristine Sommer
5 Evi Ashenbrucker
6 Kathryn Johnson
7 Rachel Johnson
8 Kate Zackary
9 Carly Waters
10 Gabriella Cantorna
11 Lotte Clapp
12 Alev Kelter
13 Eti Haungatau
14 Jennine Detiveaux
15 Tess Feury
16 Kathryn Treder, 17 Catherine Benson, 18 Charli Jacoby, 19 Jenny Kronish, 20 Elizabeth Cairns
21 Bridget Kahele, 22 Katana Howard, 23 Meya Bizer
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Looking at the officials - interesting that the 2 best ref.s are both stuck on the sidelines this week - presumably they'll get a SF each. This weekend will be the decider for who gets the final, as I'd expect neither Cox nor Groizeleau to be eligible (in which case, Davidson would be my choice; but I suspect NZRU will pull rank and it'll go to one of the kiwis)
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NZ v Wal
How the hell was that not a red for Williams on 58 minutes?
Tackle is a little late, but fine, then there's a lift, twist well beyond the horizontal, and a dump onto her head.
Ref says mitigation for pulling out of it, but that's no mitigation if it's a head first dumping. Tackler is responsible for the ball carrier's landing, bailing out is an aggravator, not a mitigator!
How the hell was that not a red for Williams on 58 minutes?
Tackle is a little late, but fine, then there's a lift, twist well beyond the horizontal, and a dump onto her head.
Ref says mitigation for pulling out of it, but that's no mitigation if it's a head first dumping. Tackler is responsible for the ball carrier's landing, bailing out is an aggravator, not a mitigator!
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Fra v Ita
France so much better, but so sloppy in the execution - until they settled down with the penalty try.
Really missing the control of Menager, Sansus and Trémoulière (no real surprise there, that 3 world class players, 2 if them the decision makers, would be missed)
France so much better, but so sloppy in the execution - until they settled down with the penalty try.
Really missing the control of Menager, Sansus and Trémoulière (no real surprise there, that 3 world class players, 2 if them the decision makers, would be missed)
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Eng v Aus 5 min
Anyone ever heard of a scrum being called back because it rocks a little before going forwards?
Not "that's gone 90*" but "loosehead got a drive on before the tight head, then youy straightened the drive; so we';ll have to go again"
ETA: And eventually, England score a push-over try against Australia; all feels right with the world.
Anyone ever heard of a scrum being called back because it rocks a little before going forwards?
Not "that's gone 90*" but "loosehead got a drive on before the tight head, then youy straightened the drive; so we';ll have to go again"
ETA: And eventually, England score a push-over try against Australia; all feels right with the world.
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Good performance that, I reckon, given the conditions. I was nervous that the Aussies would make the wet into a lottery but the England team is too sensible for that. Shane for the backs.
Kudos to the bravery if aussie 14 who found herself smashed back by rampaging forwards several times but she kept holding on (even if her eyes were shut).
Kudos to the bravery if aussie 14 who found herself smashed back by rampaging forwards several times but she kept holding on (even if her eyes were shut).
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Well, that was the worst reffing display of the tournie - not biased at all, but just shit. Obviously, that meant it had a greater effect on England as we were simply more dominant; and by plenty enough to take the ref out of influencing the result.
On the match itself, England did what we needed to, played the weather, played the opposition, and didn't let ourselves get frustrated by the ref.
Job done - on to the next one.
And dammit - my recording for Can v USA has failed - ITV have stopped allowing smart TVs to use ITV Hub; and ITV Hub on the 'pooter doesn't want to show QF4...
ETA: ITV Hub pissing me off - look at the "Sports" category on ITV Hub, and out of 45 options, the WRWC is option 35, and it's 1 single highlights programme!
Behind such highlights as lots of Football from the 1980s and 1990s, mens' rugby from 2016 a documentary on Irish cycling, ice skating, womens' wrestling etc etc
On the match itself, England did what we needed to, played the weather, played the opposition, and didn't let ourselves get frustrated by the ref.
Job done - on to the next one.
And dammit - my recording for Can v USA has failed - ITV have stopped allowing smart TVs to use ITV Hub; and ITV Hub on the 'pooter doesn't want to show QF4...
ETA: ITV Hub pissing me off - look at the "Sports" category on ITV Hub, and out of 45 options, the WRWC is option 35, and it's 1 single highlights programme!
Behind such highlights as lots of Football from the 1980s and 1990s, mens' rugby from 2016 a documentary on Irish cycling, ice skating, womens' wrestling etc etc
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After this weekends performances, neither ABT nor MCO can possibly be rewarded with the final, so assuming a Fra v Eng final is between Davidson and Neville, which can only fo to the Irishwoman (unless she screws up the North American Derby)Which Tyler wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:38 am Looking at the officials - interesting that the 2 best ref.s are both stuck on the sidelines this week - presumably they'll get a SF each. This weekend will be the decider for who gets the final, as I'd expect neither Cox nor Groizeleau to be eligible (in which case, Davidson would be my choice; but I suspect NZRU will pull rank and it'll go to one of the kiwis)
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Good to know itv hub is crap for everyone, i thought it was my VPN. I had to watch the red roses on YouTube.
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Right, got the Can v USA match working in the Hub.
25 min
Pretty much going as expected so far - lots of huff and puff from USA, Canada just that bit better.
On Ref-watch, Neville so far is the performance of the weekend.
25 min
Pretty much going as expected so far - lots of huff and puff from USA, Canada just that bit better.
On Ref-watch, Neville so far is the performance of the weekend.
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Can v USA
29 min.
Ref and TMO disagree on a knock-on on the maul
For me, it goes back off the chest, then forwards off the thigh (IIRC a kick has to be below the knee, hence tap-and-go off the knee isn't allowed) - so it is a knock-on.
More to the point though, the ball then hits the foot of a player in front of USA2, so offside rather than play-on even if it does count as kicked forwards.
29 min.
Ref and TMO disagree on a knock-on on the maul
For me, it goes back off the chest, then forwards off the thigh (IIRC a kick has to be below the knee, hence tap-and-go off the knee isn't allowed) - so it is a knock-on.
More to the point though, the ball then hits the foot of a player in front of USA2, so offside rather than play-on even if it does count as kicked forwards.
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QF4 46 min
That's red for me. Upright tackle, no dip or step from the ball carrier, and the tackler is coming forwards into and through the tackle.
Not sure how the ball carrier moving fast is a mitigation for the tackler.
That's red for me. Upright tackle, no dip or step from the ball carrier, and the tackler is coming forwards into and through the tackle.
Not sure how the ball carrier moving fast is a mitigation for the tackler.