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kk67
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Hungary

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Famous for being overrun by so many battles that their national anthem is a diatribe of :

'please stop invading us, we've actually had enough..

Not exiting......but very determined.
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OK, and?
I'm a god
How can you kill a god?
Shame on you, sweet Nerevar
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kk67 wrote:Famous for being overrun by so many battles that their national anthem is a diatribe of :

'please stop invading us, we've actually had enough..

Not exiting......but very determined.
Never heard it but can objectively say that it's still better than 'God Defend New Zealand'.

Also being descendants of proto-Mongol crazy Russian horse-lords must give you some street cred in Europe.
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cashead wrote:OK, and?
They've decided that they're not going to accept any refugees......the EU wanted them to take less than 2,000 but the answer is a firm no.
The EU will impose a 210,000 Euro penalty for every migrant that is refused leave to remain. Hungary seems determined to pay it all.
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zer0 wrote:
kk67 wrote:Famous for being overrun by so many battles that their national anthem is a diatribe of :

'please stop invading us, we've actually had enough..

Not exiting......but very determined.
Never heard it but can objectively say that it's still better than 'God Defend New Zealand'.

Also being descendants of proto-Mongol crazy Russian horse-lords must give you some street cred in Europe.

Proto-Mongol crazy Russian horse-lords

This would be a fantastic Super Rugby franchise. I would follow them to war.
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morepork wrote:
zer0 wrote:
kk67 wrote:Famous for being overrun by so many battles that their national anthem is a diatribe of :

'please stop invading us, we've actually had enough..

Not exiting......but very determined.
Never heard it but can objectively say that it's still better than 'God Defend New Zealand'.

Also being descendants of proto-Mongol crazy Russian horse-lords must give you some street cred in Europe.

Proto-Mongol crazy Russian horse-lords

This would be a fantastic Super Rugby franchise.
...or an Osmands song.
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Re: Hungary

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kk67 wrote:
cashead wrote:OK, and?
They've decided that they're not going to accept any refugees......the EU wanted them to take less than 2,000 but the answer is a firm no.
The EU will impose a 210,000 Euro penalty for every migrant that is refused leave to remain. Hungary seems determined to pay it all.
To be fair, this is the last straw. Hungary was the only country to actually register the migrants when they arrived, as by EU law they should be registered in the first EU country they arrive in.

But these migrants had already come through Greece, and the government had been on and on to the EU about it without a single answer.
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Stom wrote:
kk67 wrote:
cashead wrote:OK, and?
They've decided that they're not going to accept any refugees......the EU wanted them to take less than 2,000 but the answer is a firm no.
The EU will impose a 210,000 Euro penalty for every migrant that is refused leave to remain. Hungary seems determined to pay it all.
To be fair, this is the last straw. Hungary was the only country to actually register the migrants when they arrived, as by EU law they should be registered in the first EU country they arrive in.

But these migrants had already come through Greece, and the government had been on and on to the EU about it without a single answer.
From the report I read I got the feeling that by the time they've reached Hungary, these refugees have been travelling in tough conditions for quite a long time and are generally a pretty bedraggled and fed up crowd. For them, clearing their own litter is just a step too far. Which the good denizens of Hungary are finding very annoying.
I got a very interesting picture of Hungary from the vox pops........the entire range of population from 16-80 were interviewed and all said the same thing. They weren't nasty about it.....they just said no and mentioned the litter.
They reminded me of Nordic people.
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kk67 wrote:
Stom wrote:
kk67 wrote:
They've decided that they're not going to accept any refugees......the EU wanted them to take less than 2,000 but the answer is a firm no.
The EU will impose a 210,000 Euro penalty for every migrant that is refused leave to remain. Hungary seems determined to pay it all.
To be fair, this is the last straw. Hungary was the only country to actually register the migrants when they arrived, as by EU law they should be registered in the first EU country they arrive in.

But these migrants had already come through Greece, and the government had been on and on to the EU about it without a single answer.
From the report I read I got the feeling that by the time they've reached Hungary, these refugees have been travelling in tough conditions for quite a long time and are generally a pretty bedraggled and fed up crowd. For them, clearing their own litter is just a step too far. Which the good denizens of Hungary are finding very annoying.
I got a very interesting picture of Hungary from the vox pops........the entire range of population from 16-80 were interviewed and all said the same thing. They weren't nasty about it.....they just said no and mentioned the litter.
They reminded me of Nordic people.
My mother and uncle have German friends who live on the Austrian/German border. Their town is a mess but their biggest issue is the demographic of the migrants. They weren't happy with the sheer number of 20 and 30 something young men who always seem to be at the front of the queue, in front of the elderly and young families, when the buses arrived to transport the migrants to the cities. They were happy to help those who were in desperate need but their patience and sympathy has been eroded by those they think are taking the piss. That they had devastating floods about a month ago was a huge kick in the teeth.
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Mellsblue wrote:
kk67 wrote:
Stom wrote:
To be fair, this is the last straw. Hungary was the only country to actually register the migrants when they arrived, as by EU law they should be registered in the first EU country they arrive in.

But these migrants had already come through Greece, and the government had been on and on to the EU about it without a single answer.
From the report I read I got the feeling that by the time they've reached Hungary, these refugees have been travelling in tough conditions for quite a long time and are generally a pretty bedraggled and fed up crowd. For them, clearing their own litter is just a step too far. Which the good denizens of Hungary are finding very annoying.
I got a very interesting picture of Hungary from the vox pops........the entire range of population from 16-80 were interviewed and all said the same thing. They weren't nasty about it.....they just said no and mentioned the litter.
They reminded me of Nordic people.
My mother and uncle have German friends who live on the Austrian/German border. Their town is a mess but their biggest issue is the demographic of the migrants. They weren't happy with the sheer number of 20 and 30 something young men who always seem to be at the front of the queue, in front of the elderly and young families, when the buses arrived to transport the migrants to the cities. They were happy to help those who were in desperate need but their patience and sympathy has been eroded by those they think are taking the piss. That they had devastating floods about a month ago was a huge kick in the teeth.
Not a massive surprise the young men are at the front of the queue......they're the strongest.
The 'women, children and old folks go first' myth goes out the window when despair is the primary motivator.
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