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Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:05 pm Another fine game for Morris. An inexplicably poor one from Owen Williams, luckily not enough to lose us the game. Class from Giles. Unfortunately Nagy got about 4 minutes of game time. What difference will all this make to the summer squad . . . ? Not much, I expect.
Quick question for you, who would you replace with Morgan Morris in the current squad?
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Numbers wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:35 am
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:05 pm Another fine game for Morris. An inexplicably poor one from Owen Williams, luckily not enough to lose us the game. Class from Giles. Unfortunately Nagy got about 4 minutes of game time. What difference will all this make to the summer squad . . . ? Not much, I expect.
Quick question for you, who would you replace with Morgan Morris in the current squad?
Definitely Basham.
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Son of Mathonwy wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:24 pm
Numbers wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:35 am
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:05 pm Another fine game for Morris. An inexplicably poor one from Owen Williams, luckily not enough to lose us the game. Class from Giles. Unfortunately Nagy got about 4 minutes of game time. What difference will all this make to the summer squad . . . ? Not much, I expect.
Quick question for you, who would you replace with Morgan Morris in the current squad?
Definitely Basham.
Fair shout, I suppose it'll be a bit more competitive with Plumtree, Faletau and Christ back from injury, it's sad that Rhys Davies is injured again I think he has the making of a very good player.
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Numbers wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:04 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:24 pm
Numbers wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:35 am

Quick question for you, who would you replace with Morgan Morris in the current squad?
Definitely Basham.
Fair shout, I suppose it'll be a bit more competitive with Plumtree, Faletau and Christ back from injury, it's sad that Rhys Davies is injured again I think he has the making of a very good player.
Yeah, if everyone's fit (big if) then it's pretty hard to even get a squad place in the back row (Morgan, Reffell, Faletau, Wainwright, Plumtree, Tshiunza, Botham, Davies, Mann, Martin, Morris, Morse, Ratti, Tuipulotu, Deaves . . . Daf Jenkins???). Shame about Davies, as you say. He's got real potential to be our starting 6 but he needs time and he's just not getting it.
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I see Tristan Davies has gone to SA for a bit, I think he has good potential, also Ryan Woodman looks like he has all the attributes to make it to the top.
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Son of Mathonwy wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:20 pm
Numbers wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:04 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:24 pm
Definitely Basham.
Fair shout, I suppose it'll be a bit more competitive with Plumtree, Faletau and Christ back from injury, it's sad that Rhys Davies is injured again I think he has the making of a very good player.
Yeah, if everyone's fit (big if) then it's pretty hard to even get a squad place in the back row (Morgan, Reffell, Faletau, Wainwright, Plumtree, Tshiunza, Botham, Davies, Mann, Martin, Morris, Morse, Ratti, Tuipulotu, Deaves . . . Daf Jenkins???). Shame about Davies, as you say. He's got real potential to be our starting 6 but he needs time and he's just not getting it.
Back row is a position of depth, although clearly Faletau remains the best option at no8, I don't think even Wainright can fully surpass him yet, and we don't have too many players who fit the mould of an abrasive blindside.
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Numbers wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:40 am I see Tristan Davies has gone to SA for a bit, I think he has good potential, also Ryan Woodman looks like he has all the attributes to make it to the top.
Yeah, hope Davies gets some game time, same for Woodman at the Dragons - he needs more. I keep thinking of Woodman as a lock because that's where he first appeared at the U20s but he seems to be a 6 now.

That's the thing, just like with 12, we have plenty of options at 6 but no one has stood out other than Wainwright.
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Son of Mathonwy wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:33 pm
Numbers wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:40 am I see Tristan Davies has gone to SA for a bit, I think he has good potential, also Ryan Woodman looks like he has all the attributes to make it to the top.
Yeah, hope Davies gets some game time, same for Woodman at the Dragons - he needs more. I keep thinking of Woodman as a lock because that's where he first appeared at the U20s but he seems to be a 6 now.

That's the thing, just like with 12, we have plenty of options at 6 but no one has stood out other than Wainwright.
Agreed. These prospects need game time to see who can progress and who can't.
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Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:05 pm Another fine game for Morris. An inexplicably poor one from Owen Williams, luckily not enough to lose us the game. Class from Giles. Unfortunately Nagy got about 4 minutes of game time. What difference will all this make to the summer squad . . . ? Not much, I expect.
Owen Williams seemed to have great promise when he was younger, but has somewhat failed to live up to that. There is no doubt he can be very good at times, but he is inconsistent. With our current problems at 10 it was the ideal time for him to show he is good international standard, but has failed to do so. He has cemented his role as backup backup if we are desperate.

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Summer squad:

Forwards (22)

Corey Domachowski (Cardiff Rugby / Caerdydd – 10 caps)
Kemsley Mathias (Scarlets – 2 caps)
Gareth Thomas (Ospreys / Gweilch – 30 caps)
Elliot Dee (Dragons / Dreigiau – 51 caps)
Dewi Lake (Ospreys / Gweilch – 12 caps)
Evan Lloyd (Cardiff Rugby – 2 caps)
Sam Parry (Ospreys / Gweilch – 7 caps)
Keiron Assiratti (Cardiff Rugby / Caerdydd – 6 caps)
Archie Griffin (Bath Rugby – 1 cap)
Dillon Lewis (Harlequins – 57 caps)
Harri O’Connor (Scarlets – 1 cap)
Henry Thomas (Castres Olympique – 4 caps)
Ben Carter (Dragons / Dreigiau – 11 caps)
Cory Hill (Secom Rugguts – 32 caps)
Dafydd Jenkins (Exeter Chiefs / Caerwysg – 17 caps)
Matthew Screech (Dragons / Dreigiau – 1 cap)
Christ Tshiunza (Exeter Chiefs / Caerwysg – 10 caps)
Mackenzie Martin (Cardiff Rugby / Caerdydd – 3 caps)
Jac Morgan (Ospreys / Gweilch – 15 caps)
Taine Plumtree (Scarlets – 2 caps)
Tommy Reffell (Leicester Tigers / Caerlŷr – 18 caps)
Aaron Wainwright (Dragons / Dreigiau – 48 caps)


Backs (14)

Ellis Bevan (Cardiff Rugby / Caerdydd – uncapped / heb gap)
Gareth Davies (Scarlets – 76 caps)
Kieran Hardy (Scarlets – 21 caps)
Sam Costelow (Scarlets – 12 caps)
Mason Grady (Cardiff Rugby / Caerdydd – 11 caps)
Ben Thomas (Cardiff Rugby / Caerdydd – 2 caps)
Nick Tompkins (Saracens / Saraseniaid – 36 caps)
Owen Watkin (Ospreys / Gweilch – 38 caps)
Rio Dyer (Dragons / Dreigiau – 19 caps)
Keelan Giles (Ospreys / Gweilch – uncapped / heb gap)
Josh Hathaway (Gloucester Rugby / Caerloyw – uncapped / heb gap)
Liam Williams (Kubota Spears – 89 caps)
Jacob Beetham (Cardiff Rugby / Caerdydd – uncapped / heb gap)
Cameron Winnett (Cardiff Rugby / Caerdydd – 5 caps)
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Given Keelan Giles finally got the nod perhaps I should just be grateful for that. But anyway.

Not sure how Mathias is in and Nicky Smith isn't.
I'm really unhappy about Hill being involved at all. Hope it's just for the first game when we are desperately short of locks and then he can fuck off back to Japan where there's more money.
It would have been nice to see Ratti involved. Tshiunza really hasn't done anything to deserve this call up.
Martin vs Morris. It's all about potential, nothing about form. Martin's got promise but Morris deserves the place right now.
I don't know what Gatland is thinking only bringing 1.5 fly halves in Costelow and Thomas. Lloyd and/or Edwards need to be there.
Watkin has done little to deserve this but potential competitors Keiran Williams and Llewellyn haven't really grabbed the headlines either. I would have taken one of them instead (or in addition).
Great to see Giles on the tour (maybe he'll actually get a cap this time??).
Getting Hathaway in is a no-brainer.
Unless he's going to be available for the 6N I don't see any point in including Sanjay.
Good to see Beetham there. Would have been good to see Nagy but he may not even be eligible.
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