gaza conflict

[Son of Mathonwy]

Jared Kushner finding a new low: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... rael-negev

Puja

Christ, why is it so easy to imagine that soulless cunt looking for profitable opportunities during slavery, or the holocaust?

[paddy no 11]

Killing 6 westerners getting more traction politically than 33k Palestinians

4 ngos gone from gaza because of it, the genocide progresses at pace

[Son of Mathonwy]

See how we leap to the defence of one of the best-defended nations on Earth, assisting Israel against an attack which killed no one. How many Israeli missiles have we shot down in the defence of Gaza?

Sickening.

[paddy no 11]

See how we leap to the defence of one of the best-defended nations on Earth, assisting Israel against an attack which killed no one. How many Israeli missiles have we shot down in the defence of Gaza?

Sickening.

An attack the Iranians told everyone was going to happen, christ I even posted it here and we're basically at pony express pace

[Son of Mathonwy]

See how we leap to the defence of one of the best-defended nations on Earth, assisting Israel against an attack which killed no one. How many Israeli missiles have we shot down in the defence of Gaza?

Sickening.

An attack the Iranians told everyone was going to happen, christ I even posted it here and we're basically at pony express pace

One reason for not intervening in Gaza is that we might end up shooting down armaments with Made in Britain stamped on them.. It's not a reason that makes us look good though. It's the sort of conundrum you face when you sell arms knowing they're being used for war crimes.

[Which Tyler]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ns-isfahan

Key points, bolded what I consider the most important bit:

• US officials have confirmed that Israel has carried out military operations against Iran. The officials said Israel warned the Biden administration earlier on Thursday that a strike was coming in the next 24 to 48 hours. According to CNN, the Israelis assured their US counterparts that Iran's nuclear facilities would not be targeted.

• Iranian state media reported that air defence batteries had been activated after reports of explosions near a major airbase close to the city of Isfahan. The Iranian government appeared to play down the scale of the attack, with a senior commander in Iran's army saying there was no damage in Isfahan, according to state TV.

• Isfahan is home to sites associated with Iran's nuclear program, including its underground Natanz enrichment site. State television described all sites in the area as "fully safe".

ETA: Live updates page here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ns-isfahan

[Son of Mathonwy]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ns-isfahan

Key points, bolded what I consider the most important bit:

• US officials have confirmed that Israel has carried out military operations against Iran. The officials said Israel warned the Biden administration earlier on Thursday that a strike was coming in the next 24 to 48 hours. According to CNN, the Israelis assured their US counterparts that Iran's nuclear facilities would not be targeted.

• Iranian state media reported that air defence batteries had been activated after reports of explosions near a major airbase close to the city of Isfahan. The Iranian government appeared to play down the scale of the attack, with a senior commander in Iran's army saying there was no damage in Isfahan, according to state TV.

• Isfahan is home to sites associated with Iran's nuclear program, including its underground Natanz enrichment site. State television described all sites in the area as "fully safe".

ETA: Live updates page here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ns-isfahan

Hopefully the Iranians can write this off as trivial and things can chill a bit.

[paddy no 11]

Yes, could they just shoot a few air guns across the border at each other and get on with you know living in peace

[Puja]

Everyone remember the allegation that UNRWA employees were involved in the October 7th attacks on Israel and were actively part of Hamas? The ones that everyone believed without question, because why would anyone possibly accuse an aid and disaster relief organisation of being involved with terrorism if it wasn't true? The ones that resulted in most major donors withdrawing support for the organisation that was the main channel of humanitarian support for the people of Gaza, just as the starvation and deprivation caused by the military action really started to kick in?

Yeah, turns out that there has been zero evidence provided of this and that “the Israeli government has not informed Unrwa of any concerns relating to any Unrwa staff based on these staff lists [provided to Israel for vetting on a yearly basis] since 2011”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... nna-report

The Netanyahu government is truly beyond the pale.

Puja

[Son of Mathonwy]

Everyone remember the allegation that UNRWA employees were involved in the October 7th attacks on Israel and were actively part of Hamas? The ones that everyone believed without question, because why would anyone possibly accuse an aid and disaster relief organisation of being involved with terrorism if it wasn't true? The ones that resulted in most major donors withdrawing support for the organisation that was the main channel of humanitarian support for the people of Gaza, just as the starvation and deprivation caused by the military action really started to kick in?

Yeah, turns out that there has been zero evidence provided of this and that “the Israeli government has not informed Unrwa of any concerns relating to any Unrwa staff based on these staff lists [provided to Israel for vetting on a yearly basis] since 2011”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... nna-report

The Netanyahu government is truly beyond the pale.

Puja

Damn, that's Sunak's excuse gone. How long will he drag his feet before resuming funding aid to prevent starvation?

[paddy no 11]

Should be added to the genocide case

[Son of Mathonwy]

On the London march again. Corbyn was in Hyde Park. To think he could actually be prime minister now* . . . how different would our policy be.

* you may not all see that as a good alternative to Johnson/Truss/Sunak of course.

[cashead]

Perhaps, but Corbyn was a very poor leader and as well-intentioned as he may have been, there's no way a Labour government under him wouldn't have been anything other than an utter shambles.

He couldn't even keep his party in line, how do you expect him to run a country?

[Son of Mathonwy]

Perhaps, but Corbyn was a very poor leader and as well-intentioned as he may have been, there's no way a Labour government under him wouldn't have been anything other than an utter shambles.

He couldn't even keep his party in line, how do you expect him to run a country?

Yeah well, for the record I disagree with most of that but it's all pretty subjective and unprovable either way.

[Which Tyler]

Yeah, aside from Ukraine and Gaza, it's tough to see what Corbin could possibly have done worse than Johnson/Truss/Sunak.

That's a hell of an "aside" though.

What would have likely meant though, is a 1-term labour government, before the conservatives returned, probably with Johnson at the helm and probably with less tory infighting (having been able to unite against a common enemy for a few years)