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Donny osmond
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Twitter post, for the non-paedos among us:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yesterday 44 of the world’s leading climate scientists wrote an open letter about collapse of the Atlantic Ocean’s circulation (AMOC) <br><br>When I interviewed one of them about the consequences of AMOC reaching a tipping point he could barely keep it together. 🧵 <a href="https://t.co/Xsu0po5iZs">pic.twitter.co ... </p>&mdash; Philip Boucher-Hayes (@boucherhayes) <a href=" 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Oh, and on the earlier subject of microplastics in the environment, I was reading yesterday how nanoplastics have now been found __ in the breath __ of wild dolphins. There's so much if that shit in the oceans, the dolphins are literally breathing it out
It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Donny osmond wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:13 pm Twitter post, for the non-paedos among us:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yesterday 44 of the world’s leading climate scientists wrote an open letter about collapse of the Atlantic Ocean’s circulation (AMOC) <br><br>When I interviewed one of them about the consequences of AMOC reaching a tipping point he could barely keep it together. 🧵 <a
As Atlantic circulation shuts down I can just see Farage or his successors telling us that the new ice age hitting the UK is proof that so-called global warming was flat-out wrong.

Nothing will be done. There aren't enough votes in it. Too many people are ignorant and/or misinformed.

Vote green though, it's the only chance we have.
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I can't read this thread right now, because I already have enough existential dread about the world my children are growing up into being properly fucked by the rise of fascism and authoritarianism and cannot add the fact that the planet is probably already irretrievably broken into my impending mental health breakdown right now.

But today managed to combine the two together, as I discovered the likely leader of the opposition (and demagogue who will probably need very little poking to go full fascist) is a "not a climate change sceptic, but a Net Zero sceptic":
KemiBadenoch wrote:What I’m saying is that climate change is a serious issue that needs work. But what strategy should we pick? We could pick an adaptation strategy, that this is going to happen. How do we build lives that will work within that?

We’ve chosen the strategy, which is to reduce carbon emissions. There is no guarantee that that will work. I want to see something, if we are going down that path, something that has other benefits. So energy security.
Sure, that sounds like a viable option. We'll just adapt. Be able to grow wine grapes in Kent and enjoy a mediterranean climate. It'll all be fine.

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Puja wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:17 pm I can't read this thread right now, because I already have enough existential dread about the world my children are growing up into being properly fucked by the rise of fascism and authoritarianism and cannot add the fact that the planet is probably already irretrievably broken into my impending mental health breakdown right now.

But today managed to combine the two together, as I discovered the likely leader of the opposition (and demagogue who will probably need very little poking to go full fascist) is a "not a climate change sceptic, but a Net Zero sceptic":
KemiBadenoch wrote:What I’m saying is that climate change is a serious issue that needs work. But what strategy should we pick? We could pick an adaptation strategy, that this is going to happen. How do we build lives that will work within that?

We’ve chosen the strategy, which is to reduce carbon emissions. There is no guarantee that that will work. I want to see something, if we are going down that path, something that has other benefits. So energy security.
Sure, that sounds like a viable option. We'll just adapt. Be able to grow wine grapes in Kent and enjoy a mediterranean climate. It'll all be fine.

Puja
I'm here to help you! There are at least two worries you can just forget about straight off.

1. When the Atlantic current turns off, no one will be growing grapes or anything else in Kent so you don't need to worry about that.
2. When the climate collapses, no one will give a shit about the rise of fascism, so you don't need to worry about that either.

2057. I'll be 82 at that point so won't know about anything, let alone give a fuck, so I'm ok, you young uns are more fucked but that's a you problem.

Hope that has helped, let me know if there's anything else you need.
It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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