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We are guessing, but the anecdotal report I got was not presented like that at all. It wasn't quantitative.FKAS wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:09 pmYou make x number of dominant tackles and y number of metres post contact on average which is good but I need you to up those numbers. Not really surprising thing to say to a physical player you want to kick on. Saints having a porous defence at that stage as well probably didn't help.Banquo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:59 pmThink its true what SB said to Ribbans, I'm saying it was a very odd bit of feedback.FKAS wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:56 pm
I dunno, Murley went on record as saying that Borthwick told him he was doing the right things but was only getting so many touches a game and Borthwick wanted him to get more touches and carry more. I'd imagine it was similar for Ribbans. Unless Ribbans goes on record hard to know. Murley did go and record and seemed to like the feedback.
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The irony of Staggeringly Bad telling a lock they weren’t physical enough!
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Well quiteEpaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:11 pm The irony of Staggeringly Bad telling a lock they weren’t physical enough!
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Doesn't sound like Stats Backer but anecdotes do tend to be painted to suit the teller.Banquo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:51 pmWe are guessing, but the anecdotal report I got was not presented like that at all. It wasn't quantitative.FKAS wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:09 pmYou make x number of dominant tackles and y number of metres post contact on average which is good but I need you to up those numbers. Not really surprising thing to say to a physical player you want to kick on. Saints having a porous defence at that stage as well probably didn't help.
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I will leave it there. Next time you meet Ribbans you can ask himFKAS wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:23 amDoesn't sound like Stats Backer but anecdotes do tend to be painted to suit the teller.Banquo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:51 pmWe are guessing, but the anecdotal report I got was not presented like that at all. It wasn't quantitative.FKAS wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:09 pm
You make x number of dominant tackles and y number of metres post contact on average which is good but I need you to up those numbers. Not really surprising thing to say to a physical player you want to kick on. Saints having a porous defence at that stage as well probably didn't help.
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So now we want him to embody all of his own shortcomings as a player because… irony?Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:11 pm The irony of Staggeringly Bad telling a lock they weren’t physical enough!
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He was a bit shit tbfMikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:21 amSo now we want him to embody all of his own shortcomings as a player because… irony?Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:11 pm The irony of Staggeringly Bad telling a lock they weren’t physical enough!
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If he brings back the post match bleeding nose it’ll buy him a couple of more matches, imo.
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Borthwick would make a first class cabinet minister
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Yep, just Murley from the A team squad. IFW not included.
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Marley in for Daly. I forgot Daly was even there…..fivepointer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:48 pm Yep, just Murley from the A team squad. IFW not included.
Anyway…
“These are painful experiences we're going through as a team right now but ultimately, this adversity will be good in the long term and we will be a better team for these experiences.“
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Murley should be in the XXIII.
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Yep. I don’t get what roebuck offers, tbh. He just seems one of those “yeah, he’s decent” players who you would never pick if you had Murley available, or Ibitoye, or even Radwan
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Really rate Roebuck, so hope to see him start.
Don’t know too much about Murley apart from he sports a comedy ‘tache
Don’t know too much about Murley apart from he sports a comedy ‘tache
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Iike the look of Roebuck too. Gets over the line a bit and is great in the air. He’s a big lad but I don’t know how well/frequently he uses it? Seems to have a decent step.
Would compare him more to Freeman in style, whereas Murley is more like IFW. Scores a lot of tries and is generally just far more physical and abrasive than defenders seem to expect, with a great work rate and awareness of space/support.
That’s very much the role I thought Murley could take for England a couple of seasons back, then he got a bunch of injuries and IFW came from nowhere.
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Ah!! Then more than happy to see Murley involved.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:07 pmIike the look of Roebuck too. Gets over the line a bit and is great in the air. He’s a big lad but I don’t know how well/frequently he uses it? Seems to have a decent step.
Would compare him more to Freeman in style, whereas Murley is more like IFW. Scores a lot of tries and is generally just far more physical and abrasive than defenders seem to expect, with a great work rate and awareness of space/support.
That’s very much the role I thought Murley could take for England a couple of seasons back, then he got a bunch of injuries and IFW came from nowhere.
Though if he is playing outside the current dirge of creativity then being good in the air probably trumps all.