Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00

[Which Tyler]

Bayliss may have the top speed of a winger, but not the acceleration, dexterity or instincts

[Adam_P]

Bayliss may have the top speed of a winger, but not the acceleration, dexterity or instincts

The positional play is where he's going to be most found out. You can have all the physical attributes of a good winger, but without playing there regularly it's not second nature where to be when

[Which Tyler]

I was about to say the ref called the wrong offence - but he was right, never held in the tackle, so allowed to crawl.

Just not allowed to keep hold of the ball once actually tackled.

[Which Tyler]

The positional play is where he's going to be most found out. You can have all the physical attributes of a good winger, but without playing there regularly it's not second nature where to be when

That's a lot of what I was meaning by "instincts"


Pepper looking very uncomfortable in the stands - though may have been grimacing about the play

[Adam_P]

There goes my fantasy team captain, thanks Lawrence

[Captainhaircut]

It’s round that time that England will start getting a load of injuries. Looks like wing may be the position this year. IFW, sleightholme, Muir and Hendy all injured here.

Worst thing about it is that it will mean zero chance of Freeman playing 13.

[Which Tyler]

RR: can't play Lawrence at 12, or Marcus at 15 as they just don't play there.
Also RR: why isn't Borthwick playing 12. Steward, 13. Freeman, it's just so obvious.

[Adam_P]

That's surely crossing? He's infront of the ball carrier when the collision with Dingwall happens

[Which Tyler]

Since when is running upright, whilst inside, foul play?

ETA, rightly dismissed by the ref.

[Which Tyler]

That's surely crossing? He's infront of the ball carrier when the collision with Dingwall happens

Errr. What now?
He's behind the ball carrier until approximately 1/10 of a second before the head contact, because the ball carrier is tackled and has his momentum taken away

[Adam_P]

He's obstructed Dingwall in tackling Lawrence, whilst being in front of Lawrence. That is crossing.

[Mikey Brown]

Vintage Monye there - "He's like a human guillotine. He cut him in half."

[Which Tyler]

He's obstructed Dingwall in tackling Lawrence, whilst being in front of Lawrence. That is crossing.

After the tackle had been made, and whilst he was unconscious, you mean?
Because he was behind Lawrence until OL had been tackled

[Adam_P]

He's obstructed Dingwall in tackling Lawrence, whilst being in front of Lawrence. That is crossing.

After the tackle had been made, and he was unconscious, you mean?
Because he was behind Lawrence until OL had been tackled

Not tackled by Dingwall

[Which Tyler]

And your point is?

[Adam_P]

The tackle wasn't completed at the time the crossing occurred

[Which Tyler]

At what point do you want him to step outside the laws of physics?
Or is your complaint that he should have had better control of the way he fell whilst unconscious?

ETA, sorry everyone else. I'll leave this conversation now, it's obvious that neither of us are going to convince the other.

[Mikey Brown]

This must be some sort of record for HIAs in a single game.

[Mikey Brown]

Lawrence is staying on?! He just stopped running and collapsed to his knees???

[Adam_P]

Should Mitchell have defied the laws of physics to get out of the way of Lawrence there? Fouls can be committed by players being in the wrong place at the wrong time

[Adam_P]

Thank God, we needed that win. Quality game. Shame about the injuries all round.

[Puja]

Am very glad Saints won that. That was a terrible decision to yellow Mitchell, given it was exactly the same a s the Coetzee head contact except the runner was given the pass, and I can't help but feel that Lawrence went down like a footballer to deliberately make sure he got the penalty.

Puja

[paddy no 11]

What we're bath doing, playing at a restart that was dropping short and would have been a scrum back and then giving away a penalty in front of the posts when the ref is shouting at you NO

[Adam_P]

Am very glad Saints won that. That was a terrible decision to yellow Mitchell, given it was exactly the same a s the Coetzee head contact except the runner was given the pass, and I can't help but feel that Lawrence went down like a footballer to deliberately make sure he got the penalty.

Puja

I find Lawrence a bit unlikeable. Laughing as Hendy went off injured after his late tucked arm tackle was a bellend move too.

[Adam_P]

With all the recent back 3 injuries for England, Bailey didn't do himself any harm during that game. Positionally very good.