All Blacks vs Pumas in Sucktown: poll included

[rowan]

NZ were thwarted during arguably the two greatest eras in their pre-World Cup history, during the Invincibles tour of the mid-20s when a dispute over gate-takings caused Scotland to pull out, and in 67 when an outbreak of Foot & Mouth disease prevented the All Blacks from playing in Ireland. That aside, they tried & failed in 05, 35, 53, 64 & 72. Meanwhile, SA failed in 06 & 70, but in between they completed successive slams in 12, 31, 51 & 60, scoring 189 points to 25 in total, conceding no more than 5 points in any one of those 16 matches, and notching record 38-0 & 44-0 wins over Ireland in 12 & Scotland in 51 into the bargain. They were in a class of their own.

Perhaps it's time they gave the Pumas a shot...

[Which Tyler]

NZ were thwarted during arguably the two greatest eras in their pre-World Cup history, during the Invincibles tour of the mid-20s when a dispute over gate-takings caused Scotland to pull out...

Something there sounds familiar

[Spy]

NZ were thwarted during arguably the two greatest eras in their pre-World Cup history, during the Invincibles tour of the mid-20s when a dispute over gate-takings caused Scotland to pull out...

Something there sounds familiar

Nice .

Not quite the same situation. IIRC, the Scots thought the 1905 Originals tour was going to be a fizzer, and would only pay a minimal fee to NZ. The Originals management negotiated a portion of the gate sales instead, which Scotland agreed to. Of course, the Originals were very successful, grounds sold out, including the Scotland Test, and the Originals did well on the deal.

Roll around 1924/25 and the Scots were still in a huff about it, and refused to play the NZ side. 20 years later. That's some serious grudge-holding.

[cashead]

I've also read that the 1920s tours were affected by the presence of some that had dabbled in a bit of league like Karl Ifwersen.

[Lizard]

Ah. Thanks.