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[Big D]

Weir has undergone a jaw op. Tovey back training.

[Adder]

Weir has undergone a jaw op. Tovey back training.

That will be due to his bad tackle on Stander... Took him way too high.

[Adder]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/37488344

Edinburgh: Damien Hoyland backs Blair Kinghorn to fill Duncan Weir void

By Bryn Palmer
BBC Scotland Sport
From the section Rugby Union
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Blair Kinghorn runs with the ball for Edinburgh against Leinster
Kinghorn has been restricted to cameo appearances off the bench so far this season
Edinburgh wing Damien Hoyland has backed 19-year-old Blair Kinghorn to fill the void left by injured Scotland fly-half Duncan Weir.

Weir's absence with a fractured jaw means the capital side will be forced into a change at number 10 for Friday's Pro12 match against Connacht in Galway.

Jason Tovey has returned to training this week after a wrist injury.

But Kinghorn, who replaced Weir against Munster, is in contention for a first senior start at fly-half.

"It is incredible really," Hoyland told BBC Scotland. "I remember when he came straight out of school into the squad and maybe at first he was a little bit quiet and a bit shy. But he has come a long way since then.

"It is incredible when he is on the ball in attack. In training, he is always making line-breaks. He is one of the key players and it will be great to see him get more opportunities.

"He has definitely got a massive future in rugby and he will be carving up teams if he gets the opportunity."

Kinghorn made his first Edinburgh start in October in the corresponding fixture in Galway, but all his eight senior starts so far have come up at full-back.

Blair Kinghorn celebrates Magnus Bradbury's try against Leinster
Kinghorn broke into the Edinburgh team last season alongside fellow youngsters Magnus Bradbury and James Ritchie
However, Hoyland, who played his first game of the season in Limerick after returning from a groin problem, believes the youngster could give the side a different dynamic if he is given his head at 10.

"It is simply how quick he is," the wing added. "He is an attack-minded player and has played on the wing as well.

"So you can imagine, if you put a winger at 10, he is more likely to carry on running.

"But he has got the ability to play 10. You could put him in any back position on the pitch and he would do well.

"Nothing fazes him at all. To be like that at such a young age is a credit to him. It seems like nothing ever fazes him and that is exactly the temperament you need."

After three defeats in their opening four Pro12 matches, Edinburgh are already 10 points adrift of their 'minimum target' of a top-four finish.

Connacht, who stormed to the title last season, find themselves bottom of the table after starting this campaign with three straight defeats.

Damien Hoyland is brought down for Edinburgh against Munster
Hoyland says his first game of the season "felt scrappy in a rugby sense, but it has blown the dust away"
Hoyland believes that, despite the defeats against Leinster and Munster that have followed victory over the Scarlets, Edinburgh are heading in the right direction.

"Although we lost against Munster, if you compare it to previous weeks, I think there is a lot more to take out of it," he added.

"Although we conceded four tries, our defence was a lot better - it was more just silly one-off errors that gave them their tries.

"Our game is improving a lot over the past few weeks. The main thing is we improve again and hopefully that will be enough to beat Connacht.

"It is quite a surprise to see how they've started, but maybe people have clocked on to how they try to play - moving the ball with a lot of width - and teams are defending that a little better and know what to expect.

"Hopefully our game plan and strategy will be enough to put them away."

[hugh_woatmeigh]

Be careful Blair... Edinburgh have a long history of throwing young, promising fly halves onto the scrap heap.

[OptimisticJock]

Solly gone. Hodge steps up

[hugh_woatmeigh]

Solly gone. Hodge steps up

Excellent news. I wonder what happened there because the SRU gave him a fresh deal less than a year ago.

[Chunks Baws]

Solly gone. Hodge steps up

Excellent news. I wonder what happened there because the SRU gave him a fresh deal less than a year ago.

He stepped down apparently, Hodge is 'acting' HC. Wonder if he'll get the rest of this season to prove himself.

[Big D]

Was only ever an extra year and given the shite start to the season he may have realised he could do more harm than good.

Don't think Hodge is the answer long term though.

[OptimisticJock]

Was only ever an extra year and given the shite start to the season he may have realised he could do more harm than good.

Don't think Hodge is the answer long term though.

Giving the dug that makes up 33% of the attendance each week a shot is better than Solomons.

[Big D]

Was only ever an extra year and given the shite start to the season he may have realised he could do more harm than good.

Don't think Hodge is the answer long term though.

Giving the dug that makes up 33% of the attendance each week a shot is better than Solomons.

Agreed.

[switchskier]

It's a start.Hodge will have a bit of leeway as an Edinburgh stalwart but he's been coaching the backs for a while now and it hasn't been working. He needs to put his own stamp on the team and show that it's the forward grinding mentality that's holding them back rather than his coaching. I hope that he does it but his playing style was hardly what you'd call expansive.

Of course the players could just be rubbish.

Tom English has fairly skewered Solomon's on the BBC article.

[General Zod]

He has, hasn't he!

Anyway, he seemed to turn it round and add a bit of stability/grunt which were missing, and did well in Europe one year. However, they never really kicked on and became mostly terrible to watch. Signed some right rubbish too. Why he was offered an extension when he was, I have no idea.
Anyway, I don't doubt his heart was in it, but so would mine be, and I'd probably only get them to finish above the Italian teams who should be sacked from the league themselves.
Scott Johnson next?

[OptimisticJock]

It's a start.Hodge will have a bit of leeway as an Edinburgh stalwart but he's been coaching the backs for a while now and it hasn't been working. He needs to put his own stamp on the team and show that it's the forward grinding mentality that's holding them back rather than his coaching. I hope that he does it but his playing style was hardly what you'd call expansive.

Of course the players could just be rubbish.

Tom English has fairly skewered Solomon's on the BBC article.

I know what you're saying about Hodge but without knowing how influence he actually had its a bit unfair. I said something similar about Toonie.

[General Zod]

Iain Morrison's take...

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-uni ... -1-4243388

[Tobylerone]

the Italian teams who should be sacked from the league themselves.

Hmm.. Remember that one..

[Cameo]

Iain Morrison's take...

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-uni ... -1-4243388

His point on Kevin Bruce seems unfair. He had to start a game at some point and if he was injured in his first scrum it hardly matters whether he was going to play 80 or 10 mins.

Delighted solomons has gone. Not convinced by Hodge but we will see. I don't think they've confirmed that he will get the whole season yet

[hugh_woatmeigh]

Totally agree with English's points about Petrie and the SRU. Giving him a contract halfway into the season still rankles but at least he's gone now. It does feel like Edinburgh have wasted 3 years -what players have really developed and progressed?

Time to look onwards. Hopefully Edinburgh will get someone quality. Is there anyone Scottish?

[Big D]

Iain Morrison's take...

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-uni ... -1-4243388

His point on Kevin Bruce seems unfair. He had to start a game at some point and if he was injured in his first scrum it hardly matters whether he was going to play 80 or 10 mins.

Delighted solomons has gone. Not convinced by Hodge but we will see. I don't think they've confirmed that he will get the whole season yet

I disagree. Bryce was ill prepared for that match. Less than 20mins a TH and he is then thrown in against a pretty capable LHP with a second string front and second row is mental. To throw Dell under the bus at THP too when Beavon was playing for Melrose seems completely daft.

[Big D]

Totally agree with English's points about Petrie and the SRU. Giving him a contract halfway into the season still rankles but at least he's gone now. It does feel like Edinburgh have wasted 3 years -what players have really developed and progressed?

Time to look onwards. Hopefully Edinburgh will get someone quality. Is there anyone Scottish?

Not many.

Sutherland has developed into a decent LHP
Dickinson has had arguably the best years of his career.
Nel has improved I think.
Rambo has converted into a decent hooker (conversion did start pre AS)
Gilchrist has developed into a potential Scotland captain (when fit)
Toolis has improved.
Watson/Richie/Bradbury have all been given a good crack
However, how much is that natural talent winning out? How much is down to Stevie Scott?

In terms of backs and overall game plan it has been abysmal. Hoyland is possibly the only one to make any real progress. Scott went backwards (seems to be doing better @ Glous) and a succession of 10s were wasted.

[switchskier]

Hodges first team is out. I suspect we may have to give him a bit of a pass for this one given he's not had any time and I'm sure the team will be pretty much have been picked a couple of weeks ago (Munster changes suggest this). Still nice to see Bradbury getting to continue and CDP back.

1. Sutherland, 2. Ford, 3. Nel, 4. Toolis, 5. Gilchrist (c), 6. Bradbury, 7. Hardie, 8. du Preez
9. Kennedy, 10. Tovey, 11. Allen, 12. Rasolea, 13. Dean, 14. Hoyland, 15. Bryce

16. McInally, 17. Cosgrove, 18. Dell, 19. Carmichael, 20. Watson, 21. Hidalgo-Clyne, 22. Tofilau, 23. Kinghorn

[Adder]

Hodges first team is out. I suspect we may have to give him a bit of a pass for this one given he's not had any time and I'm sure the team will be pretty much have been picked a couple of weeks ago (Munster changes suggest this). Still nice to see Bradbury getting to continue and CDP back.

1. Sutherland, 2. Ford, 3. Nel, 4. Toolis, 5. Gilchrist (c), 6. Bradbury, 7. Hardie, 8. du Preez
9. Kennedy, 10. Tovey, 11. Allen, 12. Rasolea, 13. Dean, 14. Hoyland, 15. Bryce

16. McInally, 17. Cosgrove, 18. Dell, 19. Carmichael, 20. Watson, 21. Hidalgo-Clyne, 22. Tofilau, 23. Kinghorn

Giod individuals. Forwards should have a better time. Hoping for a surprise.

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[hp18]

Iain Morrison's take...

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-uni ... -1-4243388

His point on Kevin Bruce seems unfair. He had to start a game at some point and if he was injured in his first scrum it hardly matters whether he was going to play 80 or 10 mins.

Delighted solomons has gone. Not convinced by Hodge but we will see. I don't think they've confirmed that he will get the whole season yet

I disagree. Bryce was ill prepared for that match. Less than 20mins a TH and he is then thrown in against a pretty capable LHP with a second string front and second row is mental. To throw Dell under the bus at THP too when Beavon was playing for Melrose seems completely daft.

Agreed.

[Chunks Baws]

Given that he's only had the reigns for a few days I'd accept a loss in this one, but I'd like to see something resembling a decent game plan and style. Not expecting huge differences so quickly though.

[AL.]

After the last couple of games I watched, I swore never again will I waste an evening.

Am going to though >small chink of light at the end of a very far tunnel again<

Fingers crossed, no miracles likely though this week I fear.

[Cameo]

Is Fowlres injured or does Hodge not fancy him?