Ireland v All Blacks II: the Greenwash or the Blacklash?

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morepork wrote:Fekitoa is probably negotiating a T14 contract in Paris.
He's only keeping the spot warm for Ranger anyways.
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morepork wrote:Fekitoa is probably negotiating a T14 contract in Paris.
Fekitoa will be no great loss. He is a powerful strike runner but not much else and not the brightest 13.
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Cane has been rightly found not guilty.
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Lizard wrote:Cane has been rightly found not guilty.
Do you have a linky?
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Cane found innocent because he is.

Irish media frenzy in 10......9......8
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Sadly expect that all this ridiculous frenzy will cost us a few red cards for no reason in the future..
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If the new directive is that anything high is a red, then the ABs (and all teams) need to adjust to that. Hopefully the ruling is applied evenly and the ABs get a fair shake.

Losing teams complaining about winning teams tactics is nothing new, I remember the ABs complaining about Aussy dummy runners when they were wining, about English mauling in 2002-3. It's tough at the top.
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J Dory wrote:If the new directive is that anything high is a red, then the ABs (and all teams) need to adjust to that. Hopefully the ruling is applied evenly and the ABs get a fair shake.

Losing teams complaining about winning teams tactics is nothing new, I remember the ABs complaining about Aussy dummy runners when they were wining, about English mauling in 2002-3. It's tough at the top.
If it were being applied evenly, then Sexton would've been cited for his effort on Barrett.
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True. I guess all involved are still figuring it out. Hopefully we'll see consistency going forward. Not holding.my breath.
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J Dory wrote:True. I guess all involved are still figuring it out. Hopefully we'll see consistency going forward. Not holding.my breath.
Pretty sure we said that when Andy Powell got away with a lariat on McCaw that Stan Hansen would've been proud of, or Hartley dropping an elbow, also on McCaw back in 2010.
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dk4 wrote:any news on why Sexton was not cited?

Next time we play the Irish we should give them tag belts.
I assume because while it was probably a yellow card offence, it was also a long way short of being a red card offence.
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J Dory - fekitoas 1 week is about right
Cashead- cane rightly cleared



The system works?
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hellovating wrote:J Dory - fekitoas 1 week is about right
Cashead- cane rightly cleared



The system works?
So when's Sexton going to be cited?
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cashead wrote:
hellovating wrote:J Dory - fekitoas 1 week is about right
Cashead- cane rightly cleared



The system works?
So when's Sexton going to be cited?
You thought that was a red card offence?
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hellovating wrote:
cashead wrote:
hellovating wrote:J Dory - fekitoas 1 week is about right
Cashead- cane rightly cleared



The system works?
So when's Sexton going to be cited?
You thought that was a red card offence?
No more than I thought Cane's was. However as it is not actually up to me it, or it seems the ref and tmo, then the citing panel has the ability to look and make a judgement. If Sexton's was referred I expect you would be in a position to post:

Sexton rightly cleared.

As the system hasn't chosen to cite him then the cloud of suspicion will always remain I guess.
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That cheeky bloody sextant.
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hellovating wrote:
cashead wrote:
hellovating wrote:J Dory - fekitoas 1 week is about right
Cashead- cane rightly cleared



The system works?
So when's Sexton going to be cited?
You thought that was a red card offence?
If Fekitoa got cited and banned for his effort, I don't see why Sexton shouldn't have either.
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Meanwhile, James Parsons called out the Irish management for their hypocrisy in complaining about how CJ Stander got red carded and banned during the Irish tour of South Africa this year, in which he collided with Pat Lambie when charging down a kick and put him out for 3 months.

Taking that into account, and how Sexton got away with what was at least a sin-bin level offence, this entire episode has made the Irish look like hypocritical whingy crybabies more than anything, really. That, plus the judiciary system is still broken, but water wet, night follows day, and all that.
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We'll just have to play them at touch next time as they can't handle the physical version of the game.
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cashead wrote:Meanwhile, James Parsons called out the Irish management for their hypocrisy in complaining about how CJ Stander got red carded and banned during the Irish tour of South Africa this year, in which he collided with Pat Lambie when charging down a kick and put him out for 3 months.

Taking that into account, and how Sexton got away with what was at least a sin-bin level offence, this entire episode has made the Irish look like hypocritical whingy crybabies more than anything, really. That, plus the judiciary system is still broken, but water wet, night follows day, and all that.
They must have had some media training from BOD.
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Len wrote:We'll just have to play them at touch next time as they can't handle the physical version of the game.
Ah now, to be fair, Ireland handled the physical version OK in Chicago when they stuck 40 points on the AB's. Good series. Honours even.
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Cas you're taking whinging to whole new levels at the moment, and this a game where you won!
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cashead has a point.

spiffy,
very true. 40 points. But can they stop complaining about the last game now. They knew NZ would be fired for the Aviva game. And NZ were punished duly for any bad tackles. So can Ireland just say congrats and lets hope we play again soon.
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dk4 wrote:cashead has a point.

spiffy,
very true. 40 points. But can they stop complaining about the last game now. They knew NZ would be fired for the Aviva game. And NZ were punished duly for any bad tackles. So can Ireland just say congrats and lets hope we play again soon.
It will all fizzle out in no time.
I don't think there has been too much whinging from true Ireland rugby fans who know a bit about the game. Yes the media are doing a bit of moaning, but then so are the NZ media types who can themselves often be a tad precious when the ABs are concerned.
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