6 Nations

[hp18]

Does anyone else think there is an inordinate number of articles about at the moment talking up Connor Murray (and now Schmidts) bitching about tackling the standing leg? Or is it just me...

Bear in mind they only stopped Earls bitching when euro rugby officials clocked it and demanded clarification.


They didn't protect their 9, now they want refs to do it for them.

[General Zod]

Should just come out in the press and say, yes, we'll be targeting him. No rules were broken according to the ref last time and both he and the team clearly don't like it, hence their bleating (and use that word). Therefore, we'll be doing it non-stop.

Also, is that pish they are talking about true? They are saying you can't charge down on the blind side? If not, we should say they are even trying to make up rules. If it is a foul, we just don't do it then.

Having never made a decent charge down, I haven't got a clue. I kinda just hit and think about it later, hence my glittering career.

[Stones of granite]

Should just come out in the press and say, yes, we'll be targeting him. No rules were broken according to the ref last time and both he and the team clearly don't like it, hence their bleating (and use that word). Therefore, we'll be doing it non-stop.

Also, is that pish they are talking about true? They are saying you can't charge down on the blind side? If not, we should say they are even trying to make up rules. If it is a foul, we just don't do it then.

Having never made a decent charge down, I haven't got a clue. I kinda just hit and think about it later, hence my glittering career.

It's bollox. They're trying to pressurise the ref ahead of the game. Seems de rigeur now.

[Mellsblue]

John Barclay may happen to have been born in Hong Kong, but I don't agree that he should be counted as a "foreign" player. He was brought up and schooled in Scotland (Dollar Academy).

Aye, those ones always grate me a bit. John Beattie senior isn't Indonesian, ROG isn't an American.

Sure, my sister was born in Benghazi, it made it fucking hard to talk to her as my aribic is shite.

It is an interesting read though on the others though. I always suspected we would be leading in things like this.

I once had an argument with someone who said that Simon Shaw was Kenyan and therefore shouldn't be allowed to play for England. Rugby's gain is long distance running's loss.

[AL.]

Should just come out in the press and say, yes, we'll be targeting him. No rules were broken according to the ref last time and both he and the team clearly don't like it, hence their bleating (and use that word). Therefore, we'll be doing it non-stop.

Also, is that pish they are talking about true? They are saying you can't charge down on the blind side? If not, we should say they are even trying to make up rules. If it is a foul, we just don't do it then.

Having never made a decent charge down, I haven't got a clue. I kinda just hit and think about it later, hence my glittering career.

Wouldnt that make the kicker offside through blocking....?

I just thought there was a lot of it going on and the natural cynic in me also thought it was prep for the match day ref, guess they feel they need all the help they can get

[Stones of granite]

Should just come out in the press and say, yes, we'll be targeting him. No rules were broken according to the ref last time and both he and the team clearly don't like it, hence their bleating (and use that word). Therefore, we'll be doing it non-stop.

Also, is that pish they are talking about true? They are saying you can't charge down on the blind side? If not, we should say they are even trying to make up rules. If it is a foul, we just don't do it then.

Having never made a decent charge down, I haven't got a clue. I kinda just hit and think about it later, hence my glittering career.

Wouldnt that make the kicker offside through blocking....?

I just thought there was a lot of it going on and the natural cynic in me also thought it was prep for the match day ref, guess they feel they need all the help they can get

The only reference I've found to it is this in the Irish Independent
"It was fairly public that there was dissatisfaction and I totally understand Conor being disappointed with how it happened. You can't charge a ball down from the blindside, you have got to go through the standing leg and the potential for injury there is clearly evident."

It isn't really very clear what he means, and seems to me that he has chosen his wording to imply that there was some wrongdoing, when clearly there wasn't.

[Stones of granite]

Anyhoo, I think we've got the Paddy's rattled. If there standing up, we'll tackle their standing leg, when they lie down, we'll throttle them.

Rattled, they are...

[SerjeantWildgoose]

This is brilliant! We've turned you lot Welsh.

[Tobylerone]

Dem Oirish boys throttle people when they`re standing up..
It`s just not natural, I say.. Cheating black Irish..*


*thought I`d get full non p.c. content..

[Tobylerone]

This is brilliant! We've turned you lot Welsh.

Not quite, Old chap, we`ll need to go on for twenty pages before becoming fully Welsh qualified..

[Stones of granite]

This is brilliant! We've turned you lot Welsh.

You don't have a leg to stand on with that accusation!

[SerjeantWildgoose]

I had no idea these issues would so [r]ankle with you Scots chappies and chappie-esses.

[Stones of granite]

Serje, when did the Irish start bleating so much? Throttling, standing legs, 600 years of persecution....

[SerjeantWildgoose]

It all started when that wanker Bobby the Bruce came over to Carrickfergus and started the Loyalist feud.

That and the fact that you only have the 1 anthem and its better than both of ours. You'd have thought with all of the success we've had in Eurovision, we'd be able to come up with something better than a Gaelic version of Billy Don't Be a Hero and some Derry twat's romanticised bollix about 4 proud provinces standing shoulder to shoulder. I tell ye, the only thing we Munster folk hate more than Weegie ankle-battering feckers are D4 prawn-munching Ladyboys and the Oranje hoores up north.

[SerjeantWildgoose]

I am right, though, in saying that the potato blight was brought to Ireland on the boots of a Wallace Arnold holiday coach full of pensioners from Penicuik - ye bunch of bastards!

[Stones of granite]

I am right, though, in saying that the potato blight was brought to Ireland on the boots of a Wallace Arnold holiday coach full of pensioners from Penicuik - ye bunch of bastards!

Pen-y-cog....fecking welsh cnuts.

[Stones of granite]

It all started when that wanker Bobby the Bruce came over to Carrickfergus and started the Loyalist feud.

That and the fact that you only have the 1 anthem and its better than both of ours. You'd have thought with all of the success we've had in Eurovision, we'd be able to come up with something better than a Gaelic version of Billy Don't Be a Hero and some Derry twat's romanticised bollix about 4 proud provinces standing shoulder to shoulder. I tell ye, the only thing we Munster folk hate more than Weegie ankle-battering feckers are D4 prawn-munching Ladyboys and the Oranje hoores up north.

Think that was his brother Teddy.

Hello, hello, we are the teddy* boys.
etc.

(*other abbreviated names available)

[sharvey44]

Time for the annual Telfer 6N article on the beeb..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38777496

"Twickenham, I find intimidating, the whole atmosphere is intimidating, there's so many of them, three tiers of them. If you ever think about wanting separation from England just sit 10 minutes in Twickenham and listen to them...."

[Big D]

All things being well Hogg should have his 50th cap in the 2nd 6N game. Good effort at 24.

[General Zod]

All things being well Hogg should have his 50th cap in the 2nd 6N game. Good effort at 24.

That is indeed a great effort.

When's the team named? Thursday lunchtime?

[hugh_woatmeigh]

I have a horrible feeling my optimism will turn to dread the second I see Laidlaw named at 9.

Price/Russell is the single most important combination to our 6N hope IMO.

[Big D]

I have a horrible feeling my optimism will turn to dread the second I see Laidlaw named at 9.

Price/Russell is the single most important combination to our 6N hope IMO.

There is pretty much no chance Laidlaw gets dropped. He wouldn't have done all the PR as Scotland captain if he was getting dropped.

[hugh_woatmeigh]

I have a horrible feeling my optimism will turn to dread the second I see Laidlaw named at 9.

Price/Russell is the single most important combination to our 6N hope IMO.

There is pretty much no chance Laidlaw gets dropped. He wouldn't have done all the PR as Scotland captain if he was getting dropped.

Which is exactly why I'll be glad to see the back of Vern despite the improvements under him. The Laidlaw captaincy is stifling our game.

He's a good scrum half he's just not right for us.

[Big D]

I have a horrible feeling my optimism will turn to dread the second I see Laidlaw named at 9.

Price/Russell is the single most important combination to our 6N hope IMO.

There is pretty much no chance Laidlaw gets dropped. He wouldn't have done all the PR as Scotland captain if he was getting dropped.

Which is exactly why I'll be glad to see the back of Vern despite the improvements under him. The Laidlaw captaincy is stifling our game.

He's a good scrum half he's just not right for us.

I can see that view point re VC and Laidlaw, and it is possibly a conversation for another day but I am not 100% convinced getting rid of VC and 75% of his is coaching staff (except Humphries) is the right move. I do wish he'd give Price a shot though.

[Mikey Brown]

Yup. I'm excited to see what Townsend can do (and Rennie, at that) and see someone at least get a look-in at 9 but it did seem a little quick too.

I wish Cotter had got the Lions gig actually. That would have been interesting. Both for the Lions and both to have a look at other options without ditching him.