Trump

[morepork]

A flat-track bully. What a surprise. Eventually, he will not be able to avoid responsibility for his actions. Just a serial bullshit artist that isn't half as bright as he thinks he is. Fuck me he is a thundercunt.He is making a grave mistake letting tech companies in on such deeply central intelligence practices. I am guessing this is the trade off for his liberal use of social media to disseminate clouds of bullshit dust. Hilldog tried it through main stream media but got knocked the fug out by social media twattery....it's a disturbingly volatile media metamorphosis in my opinion. Who knows what beast will emerge? Trump is a dinosaur and will be left behind, but by god is he being played at the moment.

[Sandydragon]

Yes. He has surrounded himself with some absolute cunts, some of whom have more extreme views than himself. I'm absolutely certain he takes counsel from them and it influences and feeds his own hatred.

I may have phrased that question poorly. What Im getting at is why do people think Trump is being led astray or controlled by background forces when most likely he is just doing what he believed to be the right things anyway. His appointees are largely (as you say) there to echo his own views (interesting to see how Mathis gets on), I don't think this president will be led as such; just more likely to be prodded in the direction he wants to travel anyway.

I've edited my post to take account of Trump's intelligence which is also key in how he can be influenced. He probably creams himself everytime he hears one of his consorts telling him what a great, powerful president he is just after advising him on foreign/domestic/security policy.

Undoubtedly. A smart person in that circle could manipulate him, but I think it would be more egging him on than really changing his mind over anything.

[Sandydragon]

The leader of the western world (until Boris becomes PM) is a five year old with a Twatter account.
Social media has a lot to answer for. I liked the good old days when to get your point of view across to large sections of the population you had to have previously proven your intelligence and that you knew what you were talking about.

Or you stood on a soapbox and got heckled.

[rowan]

Looks like Trump is following in Obama's footsteps in Yemen anyway, sadly

The US military has launched an investigation into the scale of civilian casualties in a botched special forces raid against a suspected al-Qaida base in Yemen, the first such mission to be approved by Donald Trump, as questions mount over the operation.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ?CMP=fb_gu

[canta_brian]

Nothing is off the table for Iran.

Cock knows what that means, but I don't expect the Iranians will be very keen to bow before him. In this case, how long before Trump sends troops in?

[Coco]

Aunty, and others are reporting that Senate Republicans changed the rules in order for Trump nominations to be passed.

I appreciate that this could work the other way, if the Democrats were in control of the Senate, but what is the fucking point of having the vote if the majority party can just do that?

Just out of interest, has this kinda thing happened before?

Could it happen to confirm Gorsuch to the SC?

The SOS for the US is handed to someone from the oil industry with ties to Russia, I'm just struggling to understand the process. I know on the other hand, the opposition can just filibuster the nomination and then follows countless back and forth based on party lines. It works both ways but it seems a little pointless if one side can just say "fuck you, we're going to do it anyway".

Is that about right?

If you are talking about 'The Nuclear Option', everybody can pretty much thank Harry Reid for that little gem.

[morepork]

What the cunting FUCK is he doing?? Twitter. To Iran. Threatening them like a school boy. Is this 1983 with fucking social media??? What's he going to do next? Order the shooting down of another Iranian passenger jet via Facebook? So Israeli foreign policy is now American foreign policy, with our good friends the House of Saud smiling on the sidelines. What a fucking muppet.

[WaspInWales]

What the cunting FUCK is he doing?? Twitter. To Iran. Threatening them like a school boy. Is this 1983 with fucking social media??? What's he going to do next? Order the shooting down of another Iranian passenger jet via Facebook? So Israeli foreign policy is now American foreign policy, with our good friends the House of Saud smiling on the sidelines. What a fucking muppet.

What a fucking twat.

[Vengeful Glutton]

Are we there yet?

[Vengeful Glutton]

A flat-track bully. What a surprise. Eventually, he will not be able to avoid responsibility for his actions. Just a serial bullshit artist that isn't half as bright as he thinks he is. Fuck me he is a thundercunt.He is making a grave mistake letting tech companies in on such deeply central intelligence practices. I am guessing this is the trade off for his liberal use of social media to disseminate clouds of bullshit dust. Hilldog tried it through main stream media but got knocked the fug out by social media twattery....it's a disturbingly volatile media metamorphosis in my opinion. Who knows what beast will emerge? Trump is a dinosaur and will be left behind, but by god is he being played at the moment.

It could be worse. We could live in a world without Zinc.

[Len]

Officially put on notice. What a bellend. World police!

[Sandydragon]

What the cunting FUCK is he doing?? Twitter. To Iran. Threatening them like a school boy. Is this 1983 with fucking social media??? What's he going to do next? Order the shooting down of another Iranian passenger jet via Facebook? So Israeli foreign policy is now American foreign policy, with our good friends the House of Saud smiling on the sidelines. What a fucking muppet.

I know. Words fail me to describe the level of his incompetence. I almost feel sorry for his Secretary of State having to deal with that. Then I remember that he too is a cnut.

[Sandydragon]

Looks like Trump is following in Obama's footsteps in Yemen anyway, sadly

The US military has launched an investigation into the scale of civilian casualties in a botched special forces raid against a suspected al-Qaida base in Yemen, the first such mission to be approved by Donald Trump, as questions mount over the operation.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ?CMP=fb_gu

DId you expect him to cease all military activities? This utter twat is not only winding up traditional enemies, he is also throwing his military weight about with countries like Mexico. Did anyone seriously expect him to act like a grown up when in power? I predict that Obamas first 4 years will have seen far less military activity than the next 4.

[Sandydragon]

The way this is going, we may have to check how big single threads can get. Well into 4 figures and the wanker has only been in office for a fortnight.

[Vengeful Glutton]

http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/kuwait-b ... an-1655311

[rowan]

Looks like Trump is following in Obama's footsteps in Yemen anyway, sadly

The US military has launched an investigation into the scale of civilian casualties in a botched special forces raid against a suspected al-Qaida base in Yemen, the first such mission to be approved by Donald Trump, as questions mount over the operation.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ?CMP=fb_gu

DId you expect him to cease all military activities? This utter twat is not only winding up traditional enemies, he is also throwing his military weight about with countries like Mexico. Did anyone seriously expect him to act like a grown up when in power? I predict that Obamas first 4 years will have seen far less military activity than the next 4.

I'm pretty sure nobody expected whoever got elected to cease all military activities. Or they'd certainly have been the first president in US history to have done so. In fact, I've said all along that it's a deep state running foreign policy and these circus clowns they trot out as presidents are little more than puppets. Nothing changed in that department when Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama took over from Bush; that's for sure. In saying that, Trump promised to discontinue the war in Syria (unlike his rival candidate), and so far he seems to be keeping to that - notwithstanding continued bombing of ISIS targets which claimed more civilian casualties this week. But this is more tragic news from Yemen, while civilians have also been killed by American bombing (supposedly targetting ISIS) in Iraq as well.

[Donny osmond]

Looks like Trump is following in Obama's footsteps in Yemen anyway, sadly

The US military has launched an investigation into the scale of civilian casualties in a botched special forces raid against a suspected al-Qaida base in Yemen, the first such mission to be approved by Donald Trump, as questions mount over the operation.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ?CMP=fb_gu

DId you expect him to cease all military activities? This utter twat is not only winding up traditional enemies, he is also throwing his military weight about with countries like Mexico. Did anyone seriously expect him to act like a grown up when in power? I predict that Obamas first 4 years will have seen far less military activity than the next 4.

I'm pretty sure nobody expected whoever got elected to cease all military activities. Or they'd certainly have been the first president in US history to have done so. In fact, I've said all along that it's a deep state running foreign policy and these circus clowns they trot out as presidents are little more than puppets. Nothing changed in that department when Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama took over from Bush; that's for sure. In saying that, Trump promised to discontinue the war in Syria (unlike his rival candidate), and so far he seems to be keeping to that - notwithstanding continued bombing of ISIS targets which claimed more civilian casualties this week. But this is more tragic news from Yemen, while civilians have also been killed by American bombing (supposedly targetting ISIS) in Iraq as well.

Its pretty disgraceful. If only those bombs had been Russian. Then it would all be fine.

[rowan]

DId you expect him to cease all military activities? This utter twat is not only winding up traditional enemies, he is also throwing his military weight about with countries like Mexico. Did anyone seriously expect him to act like a grown up when in power? I predict that Obamas first 4 years will have seen far less military activity than the next 4.

I'm pretty sure nobody expected whoever got elected to cease all military activities. Or they'd certainly have been the first president in US history to have done so. In fact, I've said all along that it's a deep state running foreign policy and these circus clowns they trot out as presidents are little more than puppets. Nothing changed in that department when Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama took over from Bush; that's for sure. In saying that, Trump promised to discontinue the war in Syria (unlike his rival candidate), and so far he seems to be keeping to that - notwithstanding continued bombing of ISIS targets which claimed more civilian casualties this week. But this is more tragic news from Yemen, while civilians have also been killed by American bombing (supposedly targetting ISIS) in Iraq as well.

Its pretty disgraceful. If only those bombs had been Russian. Then it would all be fine.

Quite the opposite, in fact, and you know it. Russia were actually framed by the Western media for war crimes carried out by the US backed rebels/terrorists in Syria. If they had done this it would have made headlines all over the world and Putin would have been declared the next Hitler (again).

On the other hand, had Obama done it, the Western media would have ignored it, like they ignored most of his war crimes as he proceeded to bomb 7 nations at a speed of three bombs per hour and 26,000 per annum, and remain at war through every single day of his two-term, eight year presidency.

But the bottom line is, America did this - yet again, so why even bring Russia into it ?

[WaspInWales]

I'm pretty sure nobody expected whoever got elected to cease all military activities. Or they'd certainly have been the first president in US history to have done so. In fact, I've said all along that it's a deep state running foreign policy and these circus clowns they trot out as presidents are little more than puppets. Nothing changed in that department when Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama took over from Bush; that's for sure. In saying that, Trump promised to discontinue the war in Syria (unlike his rival candidate), and so far he seems to be keeping to that - notwithstanding continued bombing of ISIS targets which claimed more civilian casualties this week. But this is more tragic news from Yemen, while civilians have also been killed by American bombing (supposedly targetting ISIS) in Iraq as well.

Its pretty disgraceful. If only those bombs had been Russian. Then it would all be fine.

Quite the opposite, in fact, and you know it. Russia were actually framed by the Western media for war crimes carried out by the US backed rebels/terrorists in Syria. If they had done this it would have made headlines all over the world and Putin would have been declared the next Hitler (again).

On the other hand, had Obama done it, the Western media would have ignored it, like they ignored most of his war crimes as he proceeded to bomb 7 nations at a speed of three bombs per hour and 26,000 per annum, and remain at war through every single day of his two-term, eight year presidency.

But the bottom line is, America did this - yet again, so why even bring Russia into it ?

Is there proof of this? Besides something typed on a website?

[rowan]

Its pretty disgraceful. If only those bombs had been Russian. Then it would all be fine.

Quite the opposite, in fact, and you know it. Russia were actually framed by the Western media for war crimes carried out by the US backed rebels/terrorists in Syria. If they had done this it would have made headlines all over the world and Putin would have been declared the next Hitler (again).

On the other hand, had Obama done it, the Western media would have ignored it, like they ignored most of his war crimes as he proceeded to bomb 7 nations at a speed of three bombs per hour and 26,000 per annum, and remain at war through every single day of his two-term, eight year presidency.

But the bottom line is, America did this - yet again, so why even bring Russia into it ?

Is there proof of this? Besides something typed on a website?

This news comes directly from the US military itself. They could be lying to make themselves look bad, of course But so far the only question is over the actual number of civilian casualties. Reports are suggesting they may be much higher than the military has so far conceded, and this is quite typical in Yemen, where initial reports of 10 or 12 civilian casualties often end up in the hundreds. Anyways, the US military is carrying out its own investigation as we speak...

[morepork]

Yeah, I mean fuck, the way to stop war in Syria is to wind up Iran. Nice fucking plan.

[WaspInWales]

Quite the opposite, in fact, and you know it. Russia were actually framed by the Western media for war crimes carried out by the US backed rebels/terrorists in Syria. If they had done this it would have made headlines all over the world and Putin would have been declared the next Hitler (again).

On the other hand, had Obama done it, the Western media would have ignored it, like they ignored most of his war crimes as he proceeded to bomb 7 nations at a speed of three bombs per hour and 26,000 per annum, and remain at war through every single day of his two-term, eight year presidency.

But the bottom line is, America did this - yet again, so why even bring Russia into it ?

Is there proof of this? Besides something typed on a website?

This news comes directly from the US military itself. They could be lying to make themselves look bad, of course But so far the only question is over the actual number of civilian casualties. Reports are suggesting they may be much higher than the military has so far conceded, and this is quite typical in Yemen, where initial reports of 10 or 12 civilian casualties often end up in the hundreds. Anyways, the US military is carrying out its own investigation as we speak...

I was asking about your comment:

Russia were actually framed by the Western media for war crimes carried out by the US backed rebels/terrorists in Syria

[WaspInWales]

I wonder if the Doomsday clock needs adjusting again?

[Len]

The way this is going the next D-day is going to take place somewhere on the east coast of the states. The Mexicans will play the part of the Russians coming in from the other way and Britain will take Italys role.

[rowan]

Meanwhile, the Jerusalem Post reports that Trump has (surprisingly) called upon Israel to halt its illegal new settlements in Palestine: http://live.jpost.com/Israel-News/Polit ... nts-480446