U20's v Wales Fri 7.45 (on Sky)

fivepointer · Post by **fivepointer** » Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:18 pm

England U20 squad to play Wales:

1 Lewis Boyce (Yorkshire Carnegie)
2 Jack Singleton (Worcester Warriors)
3 Will Stuart (Wasps)
4 Huw Taylor (Worcester Warriors)
5 Andrew Kitchener (Worcester Warriors)
6 George Nott (Sale Sharks)
7 Sam Smith (Worcester Warriors)
8 Callum Chick (Newcastle Falcons) ©
9 Max Green (Yorkshire Carnegie)
10 Mathew Protheroe (Gloucester Rugby)
11 Ollie Thorley (Gloucester Rugby)
12 George Worth (Leicester Tigers)
13 Charlie Thacker (Leicester Tigers)
14 George Perkins (Saracens)
15 Max Malins (Saracens)

Replacements
16 Curtis Langdon (London Irish)
17 Tom West (Wasps)
18 Billy Keast (Exeter Chiefs)
19 Alex Moon (Northampton Saints)
20 Zach Mercer (Bath Rugby)
21 Calum Waters (Harlequins)
22 Joe Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs)
23 Paolo Odogwu (Leicester Tigers)

Epaminondas Pules · Post by **Epaminondas Pules** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:58 am

Even more players missing due to club duty. Going to be tough this one against a good Welsh side.

Lots more clueless commentary on the conveyor belt being broken if we lose.

Mellsblue · Post by **Mellsblue** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:35 am

Epaminondas Pules wrote:Even more players missing due to club duty. Going to be tough this one against a good Welsh side.

Lots more clueless commentary on the conveyor belt being broken if we lose.

Has anyone questioned the conveyor belt being broken, or have they asked if it's just a weaker year? The academies seem to get nothing but praise from what I've heard and read. It's the transition between them and 1stXV that is questioned.
Even if it's not as I see it then criticism can be used as a positive if you don't get precious about it. Alex Ferguson turned it in to an art form.

Tigersman · Post by **Tigersman** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:56 am

Been Dissapointed with Merchant this 6N's.

Can't wait for Callard to be off. although crying at the fact he is going to be Saxons coach still.

fivepointer · Post by **fivepointer** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:28 am

Think the conveyor is in pretty good shape.

We are missing quite a few of our better players but if they are playing for their clubs thats a positive for their development.

Not impressed thus far, but age group rugby is really a means to an end. If we get 4 or 5 through to the senior England side then thats really what we're looking to achieve.

Callard has spoken about doing something for the u20's who graduate by getting a more meaningful A league programme. Its overdue. Having half a dozen games isnt enough and the loan system is erratic. Dusty Hare, who is now running the Saints academy, in TRP at the weekend stated that some of his youngsters have played less than 10 games so far this season.

Tigersman · Post by **Tigersman** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:33 am

Last time a full a league was being voted on only Leicester and one other team voted for it.

Hopefully that would change by now.

Something meaningful needs to happen for profession from U20 to Senior rugby.

loaninng players is fine till U20 but @ u20+ Clubs want to keep hold of those players to keep an eye on them and try and get them into the senior training fold, trouble is game time is sacrificed.

Epaminondas Pules · Post by **Epaminondas Pules** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:11 pm

Mellsblue wrote:
Epaminondas Pules wrote:Even more players missing due to club duty. Going to be tough this one against a good Welsh side.

Lots more clueless commentary on the conveyor belt being broken if we lose.
Has anyone questioned the conveyor belt being broken, or have they asked if it's just a weaker year? The academies seem to get nothing but praise from what I've heard and read. It's the transition between them and 1stXV that is questioned.
Even if it's not as I see it then criticism can be used as a positive if you don't get precious about it. Alex Ferguson turned it in to an art form.

Yep, after the Ireland loss how we'd gone from double World Cup winners to also rans.

It's unfortunate side effect as the U20's gets more coverage the lack of understanding comes to the fore.

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:54 pm

Great reffing so far.

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:03 pm

Nice try. England lumbering and very slow so far.

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:04 pm

14-3 down after 17 minutes.

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:09 pm

Facking dreadful stuff.

Another try conceded.

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:10 pm

3-21.

Keeping up with the clock.

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:19 pm

Facking hell.

4 tries nil and 10 minutes left of the half.

Mellsblue · Post by **Mellsblue** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:21 pm

WaspInWales wrote:Facking hell.

4 tries nil and 10 minutes left of the half.

Good job EP got his excuses in early

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:21 pm

He's just given us an advantage!

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:22 pm

One try back.

Tigersman · Post by **Tigersman** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:29 pm

Protheroe is sooo Overrated.

Brophy Clews and Mallinder will have to carry this England team.

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:32 pm

Celtic blydi mafia!

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:45 pm

Fwck me. Another penalty.

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:50 pm

Finally.

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:55 pm

16-28. Showing some signs of life in the second half. Scrum looks a bit more settled too.

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:58 pm

Protheroe has just been Taited.

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:59 pm

Seems harsh that. The tackle went bad but absolutely no malice.

No sure it was even a penalty??

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:01 pm

Fwcking donuts.

Just been given a player advantage....great time to start a bust up.

WaspInWales · Post by **WaspInWales** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:07 pm

Made shit use of the man advantage so far.

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