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Countries that are regional unions' members but are absent from official matches (XVs or 7s, organized by the regional unions) for more than 10 years:

NORTH AMERICA: Saint Kitts & Nevis

AFRICA: Sierra Leone, Guinea, Central Africa Rep.

ASIA: Macau


Countries that are not regional unions member but have active national teams

NORTH AMERICA: Cuba, Haiti, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands

SOUTH AMERICA: Honduras

OCEANIA: Nauru, Tokelau


Countries that played matches more than 15 years ago and are not regional members' unions

AFRICA: Seychelles, Gambia, Liberia

ASIA: Bahrain

NORTH AMERICA: Belize

OCEANIA: Micronesia, Northern Marianas, Palau, Wallis & Futuna


Countries that never had proper national teams, but have active rugby clubs

ASIA: Vietnam, Myanmar, Tajikstan, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Palestine

AFRICA: Ethiopia, Mozambique, Angola, Cape Verde, Comoros

NORTH AMERICA: Antigua & Barbuda

SOUTH AMERICA: Bolivia

EUROPE: Albania, Kosovo


Countries without active organized rugby

ASIA: North Korea, Yemen, Turkmenistan*, Bhutan, East Timor*, Maldives.

AFRICA: Sudan, South Sudan*, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, São Tomé and Príncipe.

NORTH AMERICA: Suriname, Grenada, Dominica, Anguilla*, Montserat, Sint Maarten

EUROPE: Macedonia, Faroe Islands, Vaticano

OCEANIA: Kiribati*, Marshall Islands*

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Been a long time since we've seen Vanuatu or New Caledonia in action too - both Western Pacific nations with healthy populations of about quarter of million. The New Hebrides, meanwhile, with a population of 100,000, disappeared off the radar some time back in the 60s.
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rowan wrote:Been a long time since we've seen Vanuatu or New Caledonia in action too - both Western Pacific nations with healthy populations of about quarter of million. The New Hebrides, meanwhile, with a population of 100,000, disappeared off the radar some time back in the 60s.
Um, the New Hebrides declared independence as Vanuatu in 1980 (after, I shit you not, the "Coconut War").
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Ah, yes, I think I've read about that - long time ago. That certainly explains their absence then!

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Looks like we'll be able to remove Sudan from the list pretty soon. But I think they might be better off starting with the kids, rather than already fully grown men who'll never develop the right instincts (this has been Turkey's mistake, to a large degree):

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If Guinea Conakry v Sierra Leone was a test match http://guineenews.org/rugby-guinee-etri ... contre-11/ , the list of nations that have never played a test becomes a little shorter

ASIA: Bangladesh, Vietnam, Myanmar, Iraq, Afghanistan, Nepal, North Korea, Yemen, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Kuwait, Oman, Palestine, Bahrain, Bhutan, Timor, Maldives.

AFRICA: Ethiopia, Sudan, Mozambique, Angola, South Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea, Liberia, Central Africa, Cape Verde, Comoros, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Gambia, Guinea-Bissau, Seychelles, São Tomé & Príncipe.

NORTH AMERICA: Cuba, Haiti, Puerto Rico, Antigua & Barbuda, Belize, Dominica, Saint Kitts & Nevis.

SOUTH AMERICA: Bolivia, Suriname.

EUROPE: Albania, Macedonia, Iceland, Liechtenstein, San Marino, Vaticano.

OCEANIA: Kiribati, Micronesia, Nauru, Northern Mariana, Palau, Tuvalu.
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rowan wrote:Been a long time since we've seen Vanuatu or New Caledonia in action too - both Western Pacific nations with healthy populations of about quarter of million. The New Hebrides, meanwhile, with a population of 100,000, disappeared off the radar some time back in the 60s.
Having spent a bit of time in Vanuatu, I can tell you that they've got little to no interest in rugby. Can tell you anything you want to know about English football, but practically nobody knows anything about rugby.

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Didn't catch on in French Polynesia at all, perhaps because France really only became a force in the sport post WWII.

Tahiti's population is roughly the same as Samoa's but they generally get thumped by the likes of the Cook Islands and Niue. Here's a clip on rugby in the Society Islands (direct ancestral home of the Maori) from last year:

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Updated:

Former regional unions members

EUROPE: Armenia

NORTH AMERICA: Guadeloupe, St. Kitts and Nevis



Countries working with the regional unions or playing official regional tournaments

AFRICA: Congo Brazzaville, Cape Verde, Egypt, Libya, Ethiopia, Mozambique, Comoros, Seychelles

OCEANIA: Nauru, Tokelau


Countries that are not regional unions member but have active national teams (7s at least)

ASIA: Iraq, Palestine

EUROPE: Albania, Gibraltar

NORTH AMERICA: Aruba, Cuba, Haiti, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands

SOUTH AMERICA: Bolivia



Countries with rugby clubs but no national team in the last 10 years

ASIA: Vietnam, Myanmar, Bhutan, Tajikstan, Kuwait, Oman, Bahrain, Timor

AFRICA: Angola, Gambia, Liberia, Sudan, South Sudan

NORTH AMERICA: Bonaire, Antigua & Barbuda, Anguilla, Belize

EUROPE: Kosovo

OCEANIA: Micronesia, Northern Marianas, Palau



Countries with at least active beach or touch rugby

ASIA: Maldives

OCEANIA: Kiribati


Countries without active organized rugby

ASIA: North Korea, Yemen, Turkmenistan;

AFRICA: Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, São Tomé and Príncipe;

NORTH AMERICA: Suriname, Grenada, Dominica, Montserat, Sint Maarten;

EUROPE: Macedonia, Faroe Islands, Vaticano;

OCEANIA: Marshall Islands;
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Updating after Bolivia's membership.

Also, the new Rugby Africa website lists Seychelles and Congo Brazzaville as members: http://www.rugbyafrique.com/unions/

And Guadeloupe is listed as a Rugby Americas North member: https://rugbyamericasnorth.com/team/guadeloupe/


Former regional unions members:

EUROPE: Armenia

NORTH AMERICA: St. Kitts and Nevis



Countries working with the regional unions or playing official regional tournaments

AFRICA: Cape Verde, Egypt, Libya, Ethiopia, Mozambique, Comoros

OCEANIA: Nauru, Tokelau


Countries that are not regional unions member but have active national teams (7s at least)

ASIA: Iraq, Palestine

EUROPE: Albania, Gibraltar

NORTH AMERICA: Aruba, Cuba, Haiti, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands



Countries with rugby clubs but no national team in the last 10 years

ASIA: Vietnam, Myanmar, Bhutan, Tajikstan, Kuwait, Oman, Bahrain, Timor

AFRICA: Angola, Gambia, Liberia, Sudan, South Sudan

NORTH AMERICA: Bonaire, Antigua & Barbuda, Anguilla, Belize

EUROPE: Kosovo

OCEANIA: Micronesia, Northern Marianas, Palau



Countries with at least active beach or touch rugby

ASIA: Maldives

OCEANIA: Kiribati


Countries without active organized rugby

ASIA: North Korea, Yemen, Turkmenistan;

AFRICA: Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, São Tomé and Príncipe;

NORTH AMERICA: Suriname, Grenada, Dominica, Montserat, Sint Maarten;

EUROPE: Macedonia, Faroe Islands, Vaticano;

OCEANIA: Marshall Islands;


NB:Kyrgyzstan's army team got flogged by Moscow Rugby Club at the weekend, but no mention of them here. That could perhaps be a separate category - countries with an army rugby team but no club scene or national side.
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