I think it's mostly about being able to select, rather than just pick who's fit. It's a handy first team still, but they're missing the likes of McCaffrey, Campagnaro, Devoto, Waldrom, LCD, etc who would give them depth and selection choices.
Puja
Hmmm. Accepted.
It's just that their bench look pretty useful.
Puja wrote:I'm a little bit concerned about the Champions Cup this year. The Premiership has been hugely unpredictable and it's hard to tell if that's because everyone's great this year or because everyone's crap this year. I'm more than a little bit worried that it's the latter.
Puja
Can’t be much worse than last year; Saints, Leicester and Exeter all lost 4/6 and Sale 5/6. Even Wasps who qualified only won 2/4 outside of the Italian games, then got well beaten by the one true quality team they had to play in Leinster.
To add to concerns, Wasps really suffering so far on the offsides. The level of lenience / neglect that ref's have shown in the league really working against them.
16th man wrote:To add to concerns, Wasps really suffering so far on the offsides. The level of lenience / neglect that ref's have shown in the league really working against them.
Being a twat.
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16th man wrote:To add to concerns, Wasps really suffering so far on the offsides. The level of lenience / neglect that ref's have shown in the league really working against them.
The Leics and Wasps argument about offside is a fecking joke. Neither of you understand the Law.
Your fans don't, either.
Ulster deserved it in the end, although not sure if their one patented strike move of “give it to Piutau” will be enough to get them out of the group.
For Wasps, I thought Launch, Rowlands, Hughes and Mullan showed well, but too many passengers around the quality. Daly poor, Wade has been an empty jersey recently, and someone needs to aski Willie Le Roux for a refund on his enormous salary. And injuries....Wasps due some luck on that front soon surely.
That was a dreadful last 30 minutes from Wasps. They were ahead and had established a measure of control, but proceeded to fall apart making bad decisions and committing dull errors. Yet again they were hit by injuries but they didnt help themselves at times. Thought the props and locks went well. The backs just arent clicking at all, badly missing Cips at 10. Wade gave another demonstration of why he isnt anywhere near international quality.
Wade might not be playing well, and he might be in a struggling side, but he certainly looks test quality to me and it just depends on what you want in the right wing.
I would agree WLR isn't doing enough, he certainly is test quality yet looks error prone and slow (mentally and physically), he almost looks like he's being made to neck 2-3 pints before walking out on the pitch. If one were a cynic you'd say WLR shouldn't be playing as he looks pumped up on painkillers given there's such a gulf to where he should be in performance
I think it's mostly about being able to select, rather than just pick who's fit. It's a handy first team still, but they're missing the likes of McCaffrey, Campagnaro, Devoto, Waldrom, LCD, etc who would give them depth and selection choices.
15 Ahsee Tuala
14 George North
13 Luther Burrell
12 Piers Francis
11 Ben Foden
10 Stephen Myler
9 Cobus Reinach
1 Alex Waller
2 Dylan Hartley (capt)
3 Kieran Brookes
4 Michael Paterson
5 David Ribbans
6 Courtney Lawes
7 Jamie Gibson
8 Teimana Harrison
16 Mikey Haywood
17 Francois van Wyk
18 Jamal Ford-Robinson
19 Api Ratuniyarawa
20 Tom Wood
21 Nic Groom
22 Harry Mallinder
23 Tom Collins
15 Alex Goode (237)
14 Liam Williams (4)
13 Marcelo Bosch (101)
12 Brad Barritt (c) (200)
11 Chris Wyles (232)
10 Owen Farrell (156)
9 Richard Wigglesworth (191)
1 Mako Vunipola (125)
2 Jamie George (177)
3 Vincent Koch (21)
4 Nick Isiekwe (12)
5 George Kruis (140)
6 Maro Itoje (81)
7 Calum Clark (3)
8 Jackson Wray (179)
Replacements
16 Schalk Brits (208)
17 Richard Barrington (110)
18 Juan Figallo (64)
19 Dominic Day (6)
20 Schalk Burger (29)
21 Ben Spencer (106)
22 Alex Lozowski (36)
23 Duncan Taylor (107)
First time Clark is playing against his former club, I wonder which Saint has been put on official wind up duty?
Interesting to see two of England's premier locks both packing down at blindside, that will be an interesting battle. Lawes is certainly the man in form at the moment.
This will be an interesting test of how Saints have come on in the weeks since that opening match embarrassment.
