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Re: Wales v Wallabies

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:11 pm
by Sandydragon
Numbers wrote:
stud muffin wrote:Wales player ratings from ESPN - Think I was watching a different game when it comes to some of the marks!!/quote]

If you look at the descriptions they give for the ratings you can tell these have been based solely on the stats.

Moriarty was our best player by a stretch I thought, Amos was good when he came on and Webb was ok when he was on the field, there is little else positive to comment on about the other performances, we were way off the pace, hopefully we'll have some of the injured players back for Saturday or we may struggle against the Arg.
Moriarty has made a real positive influence and whilst he makes the odd mistake, that is more than balanced out by his effort and carrying. If Faletau were available, Id drop Lydiate. As it stands, I'd probably bring back Warburton for Lydiate, although that leaves a real lack of impact on the bench.

Re: Wales v Wallabies

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:23 pm
by ALunpg
Numbers wrote: Moriarty was our best player by a stretch I thought, Amos was good when he came on and Webb was ok when he was on the field, there is little else positive to comment on about the other performances, we were way off the pace, hopefully we'll have some of the injured players back for Saturday or we may struggle against the Arg.
I have to agree ,despite my concerns before the match Amos looked good and would deserve a start this week.
Moriarty was good as was Tipuric.
The return of a few players may make the differance but it worries me that we have no strength in depth...or was I mistaken.

Re: Wales v Wallabies

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:28 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
The coaching team needs to be sacked. Still. The playing team needs a refresh.

Re: Wales v Wallabies

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:37 pm
by Sandydragon
ALunpg wrote:
Numbers wrote: Moriarty was our best player by a stretch I thought, Amos was good when he came on and Webb was ok when he was on the field, there is little else positive to comment on about the other performances, we were way off the pace, hopefully we'll have some of the injured players back for Saturday or we may struggle against the Arg.
I have to agree ,despite my concerns before the match Amos looked good and would deserve a start this week.
Moriarty was good as was Tipuric.
The return of a few players may make the differance but it worries me that we have no strength in depth...or was I mistaken.
Amos is a very talented player, but he does lack the sheer pace needed for international rugby. There have been some calls to use his skill set in the centres, but I'm struggling to recall when he has ever played there for the Dragons. At 6 foot 1 inches and 15 1/2 stone he isn't small, although there are far bigger centres out there. I'd suggest its a trial worth doing at club level. Either that or far more sprint training.

Ive just bee reading the Fail which suggests dropping North, Roberts and Biggar for next weekend. All 3 were sub-par to be fair, although it is difficult to shine behind a pack that is being shafted.

That said, neither North or Biggar truly worry defences any more. Biggar doesn't have that expansive game in his pocket and the kick chase is perhaps his main attacking weapon. North is a big bloke but if he is running on his own then most top level defences will stop him on the gain line and then look to slow down possession. North is fine going forward but terrible in defence.

I really hope Liam Williams is fit and if so then Id move him to Full Back and put Halfpenny on the wing. I'm not sure about the calls for Gilles at this stage - his blistering attacking skills are hampered by some questionable defensive ones - perhaps not quite there for international level, at least not in the starting XV. If JD2 is fit then him and Scott Williams in the centres. And Sam Davies at fly half.

I don't think we will get much change out of trying to out muscle Argentina. Whilst they have a more expansive game now, I think we are better off attempting a quicker game.

However, I fully expect the same team to be selected, barring injuries, with Tipuric dropped to the bench in favour of Warburton. After all, we must give our star players an opportunity to redeem themselves.

Re: Wales v Wallabies

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:40 pm
by morepork
I'd be pretty wary of Argentina. They have some quick strong runners that hit gaps not opposition. If they start making their passes stick then look out.

Re: Wales v Wallabies

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:49 pm
by Sandydragon
morepork wrote:I'd be pretty wary of Argentina. They have some quick strong runners that hit gaps not opposition. If they start making their passes stick then look out.
To be fair, I think most of us are dreading it. The last RWC game against Ireland showed how dangerous they can be, which is why I'd like to see a few more attacking minded players in the team who might be able to score a few points of our own if the Argentinians do score a couple of tries.

If we do get stuffed again then the only consolation is the potential for Howley not to be the head coach post Gatland. Its not much consolation but its all Ive can think of at the moment.

Re: Wales v Wallabies

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:41 pm
by Buggaluggs
We'll be outscored 3 tries to 1 but somehow win on penalties and Howley can talk about a steely win for the boys digging deep. Blhg.

Re: Wales v Wallabies

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:24 pm
by Numbers
Does anyone know why the wings were reversed for Saturday, they both lined up on the opposing wing despite still wearing the numbers for their correct positions, none of the commentators appeared to pick this up.

Perhaps this was our master plan to unlock the Aussie defence..

Re: Wales v Wallabies

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:25 pm
by ALunpg
Perhaps this was our master plan to unlock the Aussie defence.. :D :D


Thats why our boys were so confused in defence Cuthbert and North did not know where they should be ...there ya go..you have got it sorted :D :D :D

Re: Wales v Wallabies

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:18 pm
by kk67
Fairly sure I said some shit about Moriatry.
Maybe not.

Re: Wales v Wallabies

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:19 pm
by kk67
Fairly sure I said some shit about Moriatry.
Maybe not.