Pro 14

[Son of Mathonwy]

Well played the Dragons and Scarlets (all their hard work done in 10 minutes). Worrying Ospreys capitulation.

Our first away win since, actually I can’t remember when we last won away so happy with that even if it isn’t against the strongest in the league.

Nice to see them putting Zebre to the sword too.

[Sourdust]

Ospreys' much-improved performance still couldn't quite prevent the worst possible result.

Jarrod Evans having a bit of a mare against Ulster.

It's still October and this Pro14 season already can't end quickly enough.

[wayneha50]

Blues were desperately poor again - they don't look a happy team at all & are gifting other teams 15-20pts headstart every game.

[Son of Mathonwy]

Great result and effort from the Dragons this week. Can we begin to believe this is a new dawn??

But a worrying capitulation from the Scarlets.

[MrK]

So, when all the players are back from RWC, excluding LT injured.

Whats the strongest 23 each region could field?

[Numbers]

So, when all the players are back from RWC, excluding LT injured.

Whats the strongest 23 each region could field?

Scarlets:

W Jones
K Owens
S Lee
J Ball
Kruger/Rawlins (not seen enough of Kruger yet)
A Shingler
J Davies
Cassiem
G Davies
R Patchell
J McNichol
H Parkes
J Davies
R Conbeer
L Halfpenny

R Evans
R Elias
W Kruger
Rawlins/Kruger
J MacLeod
K Hardy
D Jones
R Conbeer

I reckon that's about right.

[Numbers]

Dragons:

B Harris
E Dee
L Brown
C Hill
M Screech
A Wainwright
O Griffiths
R Moriarty
R Williams
S Davies
D Howells
J Dixon
T Morgan
A Hewitt
J Williams

R Bevington
R Hibbard
L Fairbrother
J Davies
T Basham/L Evans/Keddie much of a muchness
L Baldwin
J Lewis
J Prosser

There are quite a few options for each position which have a similar level of player.

[Numbers]

Blues:

R Gill
K Dacey
D Arhip/D Lewis
S Davies
R Thornton
J Navidi
E Jenkins
N Williams
T Williams
J Evans
J Adams
W Halaholo
R Lee-Lo
O Lane
H Amos

B Thyer
K Myhill
D Lewis/D Arhip
J Turnbull
O Robinson/W Boyde
L Williams
J Tovey
A Summerhill

Again there are quite a few similarly matched players imo.

[Numbers]

Ospreys:

N Smith
S Parry
M Fia?
A Beard
A Jones
D Lydiate
J Tipuric
G Evans
A Davies
G Anscombe
G North
O Watkin
S Williams
K Giles
D Evans

R Jones
D Lake/S Otten
T Botha?
B Davies
J king/O Cracknell
R Morgan-Williams/M Aubrey/H Morgan
L Price
L Morgan

Giles out for the season mind you and Corey Allen or I may have him as outside back cover.

[MrK]

So, when all the players are back from RWC, excluding LT injured.

Whats the strongest 23 each region could field?

Scarlets:

W Jones
K Owens
S Lee
J Ball
Kruger/Rawlins (not seen enough of Kruger yet)
A Shingler
J Davies
Cassiem
G Davies
R Patchell
J McNichol
H Parkes
J Davies
R Conbeer
L Halfpenny

R Evans
R Elias
W Kruger
Rawlins/Kruger
J MacLeod
K Hardy
D Jones
R Conbeer

I reckon that's about right.

Isnt Kruger a prop? no Blade Thomson or Steff Evans?

[MrK]

Blues:

R Gill
K Dacey
D Arhip/D Lewis
S Davies
R Thornton
J Navidi
E Jenkins
N Williams
T Williams
J Evans
J Adams
W Halaholo
R Lee-Lo
O Lane
H Amos

B Thyer
K Myhill
D Lewis/D Arhip
J Turnbull
O Robinson/W Boyde
L Williams
J Tovey
A Summerhill

Again there are quite a few similarly matched players imo.

Its a great looking backline, but the pack is a bit meh

[MrK]

Dragons:

B Harris
E Dee
L Brown
C Hill
M Screech
A Wainwright
O Griffiths
R Moriarty
R Williams
S Davies
D Howells
J Dixon
T Morgan
A Hewitt
J Williams

R Bevington
R Hibbard
L Fairbrother
J Davies
T Basham/L Evans/Keddie much of a muchness
L Baldwin
J Lewis
J Prosser

There are quite a few options for each position which have a similar level of player.

That pack should be competitive enough, the backs still look weak though.

[MrK]

Ospreys:

N Smith
S Parry
M Fia?
A Beard
A Jones
D Lydiate
J Tipuric
G Evans
A Davies
G Anscombe
G North
O Watkin
S Williams
K Giles
D Evans

R Jones
D Lake/S Otten
T Botha?
B Davies
J king/O Cracknell
R Morgan-Williams/M Aubrey/H Morgan
L Price
L Morgan

Giles out for the season mind you and Corey Allen or I may have him as outside back cover.

Got to be honest, it looks very uninspiring.

[Numbers]

So, when all the players are back from RWC, excluding LT injured.

Whats the strongest 23 each region could field?

Scarlets:

W Jones
K Owens
S Lee
J Ball
Kruger/Rawlins (not seen enough of Kruger yet)
A Shingler
J Davies
Cassiem
G Davies
R Patchell
J McNichol
H Parkes
J Davies
R Conbeer
L Halfpenny

R Evans
R Elias
W Kruger
Rawlins/Kruger
J MacLeod
K Hardy
D Jones
R Conbeer

I reckon that's about right.

Isnt Kruger a prop? no Blade Thomson or Steff Evans?

Juandre Kruger is our new second row mun (17 SA caps), I reckon Shingler is better than Thomson tho I suppose Thomson should have the bench spot I've given to MacLeod, I forgot about S Evans tbh and tried to edit but it seems I've duplicated Conbeer, I think there is little between the two of them so wouldn't mind which way round they are in the squad.

[Numbers]

Dragons:

B Harris
E Dee
L Brown
C Hill
M Screech
A Wainwright
O Griffiths
R Moriarty
R Williams
S Davies
D Howells
J Dixon
T Morgan
A Hewitt
J Williams

R Bevington
R Hibbard
L Fairbrother
J Davies
T Basham/L Evans/Keddie much of a muchness
L Baldwin
J Lewis
J Prosser

There are quite a few options for each position which have a similar level of player.

That pack should be competitive enough, the backs still look weak though.

The backrow looks excellent, they could still do with more depth at prop and in the second row.

[MrK]

Juandre Kruger is our new second row mun (17 SA caps), I reckon Shingler is better than Thomson tho I suppose Thomson should have the bench spot I've given to MacLeod, I forgot about S Evans tbh and tried to edit but it seems I've duplicated Conbeer, I think there is little between the two of them so wouldn't mind which way round they are in the squad.

Ah didnt know that. Is he here now?

[Numbers]

Ah didnt know that. Is he here now?

Aye, he played in the last two games I've watched.

[Son of Mathonwy]

The Ospreys' 20-10 loss to Connacht generally saw some - let us say - refereeing unsympathetic to the Ospreys' cause. But the pick of the bunch was for Parry's try:

Just as he flopped over the line a Connacht player tackled him around the neck. Parry hit the ground, touching the ball down. The arm remained tightly in place around his neck. Then the Connacht player lifted Parry's upper half off the ground - by the neck - and he flopped down again slightly further back (but still over the line).

The ref and one linesman were a couple of metres away from all of this. Nothing was done.

If this had happened anywhere else on the pitch it, or if the foul play had actually prevented the try, it would have been at least a yellow, probably a red. but no, try scored, nothing to see here.

I thought the sport was trying to stamp out dangerous and high tackles, but there seems to be a blind spot when a try is scored.

[Sandydragon]

The standard of refereeing in the PRO14 is really not good. It’s really disappointing when it’s a safety issue that has caused umpteen red cards (rightly IMO) at the RWC that is then practically ignored in the domestic game.

[Numbers]

The standard of refereeing in the PRO14 is really not good. It’s really disappointing when it’s a safety issue that has caused umpteen red cards (rightly IMO) at the RWC that is then practically ignored in the domestic game.

Yeah, the amount of neck rolls and high tackles going unpunished over the weekend was ridiculous, that and now it seems the refs have gone from being partial to the home team to the opposite.

[Buggaluggs]

Ospreys struggling in the first half 0-13 down to the Kings.

[Buggaluggs]

Apparently its the second time the Kings have EVER led at the half away from home.

[Sandydragon]

Cardiff managed to win against a 14 man Cheeters team (very deserved red card early on) and at one point they had a two man advantage. Some good stuff in patches but some poor basics as well.

[Buggaluggs]

Yeah. Just two tries with 500+ meters and the Cheetahs missing 30+ tackles was a meager haul.

[Numbers]

Yeah. Just two tries with 500+ meters and the Cheetahs missing 30+ tackles was a meager haul.

I thought they looked good in the backs with Tovey at 10 and Evans at 12, expansive, I'm wondering where Matthew Morgan is going to fit in when they have Amos, Adams and Lane back, perhaps on the bench as I see Amos playing at 15.