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Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:46 am
by Gloskarlos
Great

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:49 am
by TheDasher
For fuck's sake. The guy deserves some luck, really feel for him.

Fcking Ashton on the bench.

For the first time in my life I'm feeling a bit bored of England (rugby team). Thanks Eddie.

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:50 am
by Tigersman
Apparently will be fine for next week.

Wonder if this was always the case and eddie is playing mind games?

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:52 am
by Puja
Oh FFS.

Puja

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:57 am
by Mikey Brown
That must have been a good hat-trick he scored.

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:03 pm
by p/d
Tigersman wrote:Apparently will be fine for next week.

Wonder if this was always the case and eddie is playing mind games?
Mind games on who?

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:06 pm
by TheDasher
p/d wrote:
Tigersman wrote:Apparently will be fine for next week.

Wonder if this was always the case and eddie is playing mind games?
Mind games on who?
Rugby rebels.

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:32 pm
by WaspInWales
For fucks fucking sake.

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Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:35 pm
by WaspInWales
Anyone else feeling just a bit pessimistic about our chances this autumn?

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Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:09 pm
by Mellsblue
Ffs.

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:18 pm
by Scrumhead
Just so totally and completely predictable ...

On the plus side, it doesn’t sound too serious.

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:21 pm
by Timbo
Hopefully just an ultra cautious, “we’ve waited 4 years for you to be fit, what’s an extra week” kind of thing.

Bloody annoying though.

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:35 pm
by twitchy
WaspInWales wrote:Anyone else feeling just a bit pessimistic about our chances this autumn?

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Way ahead of you my friend.

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:47 pm
by Stom
Damn it. Now what happens when Te'o needs to go off... We get Ford, Farrell, Slade. Which is going to, well, do exactly what Slade said he wasn't good at :D

Unless, of course, we put Daly at 13 and Ashton at FB :D:D:D The Boks will be laughing all the way to the try line!

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:23 pm
by Oakboy
I think Ashton and Ford are starters or nothing. You can make a case for either starting (not that I'd choose them) but just what is their value as replacements? Ford for Farrell is the only sensible change in a straight swap at FH. Moving Farrell to 12 is stifling.

Ashton is an attacking maverick but having him as cover for back three/centres involves shuffling. I'd have got Brown back instead. At least he provides solidity at FB with Daly doing the versatility bit.

Ford, Slade, Daly at 10, 12, 13 might just cause SA problems if T'eo departs.

When is JJ likely to be fit?

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:28 pm
by Renniks
twitchy wrote:Manu injured, ashton in.
I thought this was a wind-up.

Fuck sake.

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:43 pm
by fivepointer
That really is crap. Manu and England deserve some luck on the injury front.

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:25 pm
by Digby
Ashton over Manu makes that a better bench imo

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:40 pm
by Stom
Digby wrote:Ashton over Manu makes that a better bench imo
Not if Te'o goes off early it doesn't. And he will.

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:50 pm
by francoisfou
Stom wrote:
Digby wrote:Ashton over Manu makes that a better bench imo
Not if Te'o goes off early it doesn't. And he will.
When he does, the options are either moving Daly to centre with Ashton to full-back or Farrell to centre and Ford to fly half.
Ashton often played at 15 for Toulon, but I'd prefer not to move Daly.
Or maybe Nowell to full-back?

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:53 pm
by Puja
francoisfou wrote:
Stom wrote:
Digby wrote:Ashton over Manu makes that a better bench imo
Not if Te'o goes off early it doesn't. And he will.
When he does, the options are either moving Daly to centre with Ashton to full-back or Farrell to centre and Ford to fly half.
Ashton often played at 15 for Toulon, but I'd prefer not to move Daly.
Or maybe Nowell to full-back?
I'd've thought Nowell to centre would be a more likely option. Eddie did go through that phase of naming Nowell in squad with the "inside backs" and it would likely be the least disruptive option.

Puja

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:03 pm
by francoisfou
Puja wrote:
francoisfou wrote:
Stom wrote:
Not if Te'o goes off early it doesn't. And he will.
When he does, the options are either moving Daly to centre with Ashton to full-back or Farrell to centre and Ford to fly half.
Ashton often played at 15 for Toulon, but I'd prefer not to move Daly.
Or maybe Nowell to full-back?
I'd've thought Nowell to centre would be a more likely option. Eddie did go through that phase of naming Nowell in squad with the "inside backs" and it would likely be the least disruptive option.

Puja
Why not indeed? Hadn't thought about that!

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:41 pm
by Beasties
Ffs. Hey, I was feeling left out.

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:20 pm
by Which Tyler
Oakboy wrote:I think Ashton and Ford are starters or nothing. You can make a case for either starting (not that I'd choose them) but just what is their value as replacements? Ford for Farrell is the only sensible change in a straight swap at FH. Moving Farrell to 12 is stifling.

Ashton is an attacking maverick but having him as cover for back three/centres involves shuffling. I'd have got Brown back instead. At least he provides solidity at FB with Daly doing the versatility bit.

Ford, Slade, Daly at 10, 12, 13 might just cause SA problems if T'eo departs.

When is JJ likely to be fit?
Seems odd to me; absent a genuine utility back, every bench will have a specialist FH sat there; and then either a specialist centre or a specialist back3 player.

JJ is due back in a couple of weeks

Re: England vs South Africa

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:13 am
by CONVEX HULL
WaspInWales wrote:Anyone else feeling just a bit pessimistic about our chances this autumn?

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