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Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:33 pm
by Banquo
Is blamire crocked- did I miss that?

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:34 pm
by Banquo
Peej wrote:Malins dropped
good! :). If nothing else, building some confidence away from the intl scene, and maybe getting some games in at 15....though I still rate him as a 10.

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:35 pm
by Mellsblue
Banquo wrote:..though I still rate him as a 10.
Why have you not mentioned this before? :D

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:36 pm
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote:Let’s just hope he doesn’t plan to station Steward on the wing against the two best wingers in the comp. Anything else is a bonus.
Furbank has played a lot more at 10 in the last two seasons than Malins. I’d like to say Malins hasn’t played any 10 other than in an emergency in that time but I don’t have any empirical evidence for that and I know the board frowns upon any assertion that isn’t referenced with at least three peer reviewed sources.
suspect Furbank has played more at 15 as well!

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:36 pm
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote:
Banquo wrote:..though I still rate him as a 10.
Why have you not mentioned this before? :D
senility

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:36 pm
by Mellsblue
Banquo wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:Let’s just hope he doesn’t plan to station Steward on the wing against the two best wingers in the comp. Anything else is a bonus.
Furbank has played a lot more at 10 in the last two seasons than Malins. I’d like to say Malins hasn’t played any 10 other than in an emergency in that time but I don’t have any empirical evidence for that and I know the board frowns upon any assertion that isn’t referenced with at least three peer reviewed sources.
suspect Furbank has played more at 15 as well!
Very true.

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:38 pm
by Oakboy
Banquo wrote:Is blamire crocked- did I miss that?
All it says on BBC website:

"The uncapped Harlequins pair of wing Louis Lynagh and centre Luke Northmore have both been included, as has Wasps tyro Alfie Barbeary, while Nic Dolly has replaced Jamie Blamire as Jamie George's back-up at hooker."

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:00 pm
by Which Tyler
Gloskarlos wrote:How is Sinckler there still - wasn't he diagnosed with concussion?
Because it can be "just" a 6-day stand-down if no further symptoms

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:04 pm
by Gloskarlos
Which Tyler wrote:
Gloskarlos wrote:How is Sinckler there still - wasn't he diagnosed with concussion?
Because it can be "just" a 6-day stand-down if no further symptoms
Fair enough. I'm always applying the 21 day rule for Juniors and 19 days for senior players as my headcase instructions dictate. Still gobsmacked how that can be reduced to 6 days if you play for England.

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:07 pm
by Which Tyler
Gloskarlos wrote:Still gobsmacked how that can be reduced to 6 days if you play for England.
It's not "if you play for England", it's "if you access to the medical care of aa professional club" and pass each stage of the RTP protocols, that Joe bloggs typicalyl bypasses

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:29 pm
by Gloskarlos
Yes I was being a little flippant. Still think 6 days is too few, just my view though.

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:33 pm
by Which Tyler
Gloskarlos wrote:Yes I was being a little flippant. Still think 6 days is too few, just my view though.
Fair enough, and it goes against my instincts as well - but I'm happy that it was what was suggested by actual experts, and is the same regardless of sport.

My current view on concussion in rugby is "we should be doing more - but I've no idea what that would look like, and I don't pretend to know more than the experts... but I disagree with them anyway"

I'm also very used to correcting mis-conceptions on what concussion is, and what the reg.s are around it.

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:42 pm
by fivepointer
Blamire, Willis, Bailey, Malins, Mitchell and OH-C cut from the squad.
Heyes retained in case Sinckler doesnt pass HIA I imagine.
Daly likely to play left wing. Underhill set to play 7.
Be a very bold coach who would select Barbeary, Northmore or Lynagh for this match.
Mind you, we are stuck with Dolly in the matchday 23.

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:49 pm
by Banquo
fivepointer wrote:Blamire, Willis, Bailey, Malins, Mitchell and OH-C cut from the squad.
Heyes retained in case Sinckler doesnt pass HIA I imagine.
Daly likely to play left wing. Underhill set to play 7.
Be a very bold coach who would select Barbeary, Northmore or Lynagh for this match.
Mind you, we are stuck with Dolly in the matchday 23.
Well hello, Dolly. Weird.
I fear for us, now I've thought about it :(

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:54 pm
by Gloskarlos
Which Tyler wrote:
Gloskarlos wrote:Yes I was being a little flippant. Still think 6 days is too few, just my view though.
Fair enough, and it goes against my instincts as well - but I'm happy that it was what was suggested by actual experts, and is the same regardless of sport.

My current view on concussion in rugby is "we should be doing more - but I've no idea what that would look like, and I don't pretend to know more than the experts... but I disagree with them anyway"

I'm also very used to correcting mis-conceptions on what concussion is, and what the reg.s are around it.
I’m in agreement. Certain timescales ‘feel’ wrong, I’m not an expert but I deal with concussion outcomes weekly and concur more needs to be done. Any further advancement of the saliva test that was going to be groundbreaking a while ago?

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:59 pm
by Mikey Brown
What happened with Sinkler? I wasn't aware if he went off due to injury or was just subbed. Is the memory I have of him lying flat on his face on our 5 metre line from Saturday or was that the Wales game?

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:01 pm
by Gloskarlos
HIA that became a permanent swap.

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:15 pm
by p/d
Malins axed. No surprises there.

Daly on wing with Furbank 23?

Or Lynagh to start against little fella in scrum cap

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:19 pm
by Banquo
p/d wrote:Malins axed. No surprises there.

Daly on wing with Furbank 23?

Or Lynagh to start against little fella in scrum cap
Yes, yes and thus no I'd think.

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:19 pm
by Puja
Mellsblue wrote:Let’s just hope he doesn’t plan to station Steward on the wing against the two best wingers in the comp. Anything else is a bonus.
Oh gods, that is *exactly* what he's planning to do, isn't it? Steward on the wing so they can target the French back three with cross-field kicks.

Puja

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:23 pm
by Banquo
Puja wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:Let’s just hope he doesn’t plan to station Steward on the wing against the two best wingers in the comp. Anything else is a bonus.
Oh gods, that is *exactly* what he's planning to do, isn't it? Steward on the wing so they can target the French back three with cross-field kicks.

Puja
Its an Airplane moment. That's just what they'll be expecting us to do.

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:25 pm
by Spiffy
p/d wrote:Malins axed. No surprises there.

Daly on wing with Furbank 23?

Or Lynagh to start against little fella in scrum cap
The little fella in the scrum cap is looking the best all-round wing in the 6N. In addition to his speed and running skills, he's a surprisingly powerful bloke for his size and usually gets through some impressive work at the breakdown.

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:31 pm
by Banquo
Spiffy wrote:
p/d wrote:Malins axed. No surprises there.

Daly on wing with Furbank 23?

Or Lynagh to start against little fella in scrum cap
The little fella in the scrum cap is looking the best all-round wing in the 6N. In addition to his speed and running skills, he's a surprisingly powerful bloke for his size and usually gets through some impressive work at the breakdown.
Sounds like Jack Nowell.

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:32 pm
by Puja
Banquo wrote:
Puja wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:Let’s just hope he doesn’t plan to station Steward on the wing against the two best wingers in the comp. Anything else is a bonus.
Oh gods, that is *exactly* what he's planning to do, isn't it? Steward on the wing so they can target the French back three with cross-field kicks.

Puja
Its an Airplane moment. That's just what they'll be expecting us to do.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

Puja

Re: Stade de France Saturday 19th March

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:33 pm
by Banquo
Puja wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Puja wrote:
Oh gods, that is *exactly* what he's planning to do, isn't it? Steward on the wing so they can target the French back three with cross-field kicks.

Puja
Its an Airplane moment. That's just what they'll be expecting us to do.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

Puja
I'd wait til after the game....