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Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:39 am
by BBD
I can't see it catching on as an Olympic sport WT
Did you see that a Florida cop on a "shoot/don't shoot" exercise to help them determine threats better, managed to shoot and kill a 73 year old woman volunteer, when he accidentally used a live round?
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:53 am
by Which Tyler
OptimisticJock wrote:The whole bbc coverage is poor. Why not have a bar at the bottom giving you warnings that x, y or z are about to compete on the red button. I find myself jumping around too much to find a brit to watch. Even the presenters barely bother "andy murray is in action right now on the red button", aye and Andy is about to win his first set! How no tell me 15 minutes ago when you came on you twat? Or how about warnings that you're about to show the results from the K1 in case I want to watch the highlights you were banging on about instead of telling me murray is on? Nah why bother you numpty!? Just laugh about instead!
Morning all.
I'd be tempted to say that you're using it wrong.
BBC breakfast is not supposed to be a highlights show; it's supposed to be the usual breakfast show that's dominated by the olympics (hence I've removed my series link fo it)
There's also a highlights programme for the previous day, on BBC2, running for 3 hours in the morning (starting around 9.00-9.30 IIRC) that concentrates on the best moments, and Brit watch; and generally allowing a little more time to the overnight events than the earlier ones (though that could just be when the later stages of events are). This is now on series link since I worked this out.
BBC1 (or randomly BBC2) and BBC4 run what is essentially a live highlights show with Brit watch and the more popular events; where the analysis and talking heads are - if you want Brit watch and highlights; just keep an eye on those 2 channels.
Red Buttons show what they show; but (very annoyingly) will do Non-Brit-Watch if the same sport is being covered elsewhere - so if you set red button to record the Gymnastics, and BBC1 is also covering gymnastics; BBC1 will get the Brits and the best of the rest; whilst the red button will get the also-rans.
Website hosts a stream of every sport in progress at the time - most easily accessed from the
schedule page; which also tells you who is doing what and when - so if you want to know when Murray is on; click on Tennis, and it tells you his match against Fognini starts at 4.30; or click on rugby 7s to find that GB v Aus kicks off at 7.00 etc etc.
Coverage has generally been fantastic - maybe not quite as good as when they were host broadcasters; but better than any other olympics, or any other nation's TV supplier (from what I gather - most have 1 channel concentrating on their nation's athletes and ignoring unpopular sports or other people's athletes; some go as far as having 1 further option online!). Most of the commentators are excellent IMO - the diving lot, rowing, or gymnastics lot are absolutely fantastic and knowledgeable (even if the diving lot can't cope with basic arithmetic) - the rugby commentary is by far the worst.
Most countries' fans would kill for the coverage the BBC provides; and I know dozens of people who are going the false ip address (etc) route to try to watch iPlayer as by far the best online source; and further dozens within Europe who have re-aligned their satellite dishes to catch our freeview service; to watch with commentary they can't follow.
I'd agree that for the principal 2 channels a rolling bar at the bottom with a Brit watch for other sports would be a great idea - might be worth suggesting it to them; it'd be pretty easy for them to put into place; I'd guess they simply haven't thought of it.
For organising what YOU want to watch... it'll be different from what the BBC producers think the most people want to watch; but they've made it as easy as possible to organise your own schedule, and will show you literally any event you want to see.
As for warnings before talking about what you might be recording elsewhere - it's annoying, and t'was ever thus I'm afraid.
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:53 am
by OptimisticJock
Which Tyler wrote:OptimisticJock wrote:50m rifle shooting today. 50m! Are you serious?
Anyway, shooting's not a sport; it's a skillful hobby.
It is the way I do it!!!!
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:55 am
by BBD
Wearing trainers doesn't make it a sport jock
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:59 am
by OptimisticJock
Which Tyler wrote:OptimisticJock wrote:The whole bbc coverage is poor. Why not have a bar at the bottom giving you warnings that x, y or z are about to compete on the red button. I find myself jumping around too much to find a brit to watch. Even the presenters barely bother "andy murray is in action right now on the red button", aye and Andy is about to win his first set! How no tell me 15 minutes ago when you came on you twat? Or how about warnings that you're about to show the results from the K1 in case I want to watch the highlights you were banging on about instead of telling me murray is on? Nah why bother you numpty!? Just laugh about instead!
Morning all.
I'd be tempted to say that you're using it wrong.
BBC breakfast is not supposed to be a highlights show; it's supposed to be the usual breakfast show that's dominated by the olympics (hence I've removed my series link fo it)
There's also a highlights programme for the previous day, on BBC2, running for 3 hours in the morning (starting around 9.00-9.30 IIRC) that concentrates on the best moments, and Brit watch; and generally allowing a little more time to the overnight events than the earlier ones (though that could just be when the later stages of events are). This is now on series link since I worked this out.
BBC1 (or randomly BBC2) and BBC4 run what is essentially a live highlights show with Brit watch and the more popular events; where the analysis and talking heads are - if you want Brit watch and highlights; just keep an eye on those 2 channels.
Red Buttons show what they show; but (very annoyingly) will do Non-Brit-Watch if the same sport is being covered elsewhere - so if you set red button to record the Gymnastics, and BBC1 is also covering gymnastics; BBC1 will get the Brits and the best of the rest; whilst the red button will get the also-rans.
Website hosts a stream of every sport in progress at the time - most easily accessed from the
schedule page; which also tells you who is doing what and when - so if you want to know when Murray is on; click on Tennis, and it tells you his match against Fognini starts at 4.30; or click on rugby 7s to find that GB v Aus kicks off at 7.00 etc etc.
Coverage has generally been fantastic - maybe not quite as good as when they were host broadcasters; but better than any other olympics, or any other nation's TV supplier (from what I gather - most have 1 channel concentrating on their nation's athletes and ignoring unpopular sports or other people's athletes; some go as far as having 1 further option online!). Most of the commentators are excellent IMO - the diving lot, rowing, or gymnastics lot are absolutely fantastic and knowledgeable (even if the diving lot can't cope with basic arithmetic) - the rugby commentary is by far the worst.
Most countries' fans would kill for the coverage the BBC provides; and I know dozens of people who are going the false ip address (etc) route to try to watch iPlayer as by far the best online source; and further dozens within Europe who have re-aligned their satellite dishes to catch our freeview service; to watch with commentary they can't follow.
I'd agree that for the principal 2 channels a rolling bar at the bottom with a Brit watch for other sports would be a great idea - might be worth suggesting it to them; it'd be pretty easy for them to put into place; I'd guess they simply haven't thought of it.
Far too many words in there for me, so I'm not going to lie, I'm not reading all that, but I wasn't talking about bbc breakfast I was talking about an actual Olympics broadcast. It was on one of their "brit watch" as you put it. They're so good at it they didn't bother telling anyone til half way through the match. As for the schedule it's not updated AFAIK when things run behind.
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:00 pm
by OptimisticJock
BBD wrote:Wearing trainers doesn't make it a sport jock
What if they're sambas?
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:09 pm
by Which Tyler
OptimisticJock wrote:Far too many words in there for me, so I'm not going to lie, I'm not reading all that, but I wasn't talking about bbc breakfast I was talking about an actual Olympics broadcast. It was on one of their "brit watch" as you put it. They're so good at it they didn't bother telling anyone til half way through the match. As for the schedule it's not updated AFAIK when things run behind.
That still reads as a "more than 1 brit was competing at any one time; why didn't anyone tell me?" rant; when they do tell you, and yes schedules are subject to change (but only delay); but it's really, really easy to keep track if it's important enough.
The information is there, and it's very, very easy to use. If you chose not to, and have different watching priorities to the BBC editors, then... that's on you. You seem to be complaining that the BBC are treating you like a grown arse adult.
I like your idea of a bar of rolling news for events with Brit interest; it's really easy for them to put that in place; I'd guess they simply haven't though of it - have you tried suggesting it to them?
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:09 pm
by WaspInWales
BBD wrote:Is anyone else disappointed in the bbc Olympic breakfast programme?
It can't seem to decide if it's the One show, a highlights show or 24 hour rolling news
The website isn't very helpful either
BBC coverage has been dreadful imo. The road race commentary was particularly painful to listen to. Not a scratch on ITV4 and the TdF.
Website updates have been annoyingly slow. The 'live' updates are sometimes 5-10+ minutes behind the action. I don't expect updates to come through within seconds of results but surely the Beeb could get things coming through a little quicker?
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:13 pm
by Lizard
Sky in NZ generally has Olympic coverage on 1 or 2 of its usual 4 sports channels, plus 10 Olympics only pop-up channels. The on screen guide indicates which events involve NZers. There's no chance you'll miss a kiwi fucking up their medal chances.
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:14 pm
by OptimisticJock
Which Tyler wrote:OptimisticJock wrote:Far too many words in there for me, so I'm not going to lie, I'm not reading all that, but I wasn't talking about bbc breakfast I was talking about an actual Olympics broadcast. It was on one of their "brit watch" as you put it. They're so good at it they didn't bother telling anyone til half way through the match. As for the schedule it's not updated AFAIK when things run behind.
That still reads as a "more than 1 brit was competing at any one time; why didn't anyone tell me?" rant; when they do tell you, and yes schedules are subject to change (but only delay); but it's really, really easy to keep track if it's important enough.
The information is there, and it's very, very easy to use. If you chose not to, and have different watching priorities to the BBC editors, then... that's on you.
I like your idea of a bar of rolling news for events with Brit interest; it's really easy for them to put that in place; I'd guess they simply haven't though of it - have you tried suggesting it to them?
They told me 15 minutes after they came on air. Why didn't they start their show with timings? They were too busy gobbing off at each other like it was a radio 1 show. I'm here for the Olympics, primarily British, not your shite patter.
Don't have them on speed dial mate.
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:15 pm
by OptimisticJock
Lizard wrote:Sky in NZ generally has Olympic coverage on 1 or 2 of its usual 4 sports channels, plus 10 Olympics only pop-up channels. The on screen guide indicates which events involve NZers. There's no chance you'll miss a kiwi fucking up their medal chances.
They take a good 10 minutes to update their pop up channel to let you know theirs a brit on but don't seem to bother with minor sports.
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:18 pm
by Sandydragon
WaspInWales wrote:BBD wrote:Is anyone else disappointed in the bbc Olympic breakfast programme?
It can't seem to decide if it's the One show, a highlights show or 24 hour rolling news
The website isn't very helpful either
BBC coverage has been dreadful imo. The road race commentary was particularly painful to listen to. Not a scratch on ITV4 and the TdF.
Website updates have been annoyingly slow. The 'live' updates are sometimes 5-10+ minutes behind the action. I don't expect updates to come through within seconds of results but surely the Beeb could get things coming through a little quicker?
Almost as good as Clive "I can't be bothered to learn the ladies players names, but they are all English' Woodward's commentary on the women's 7s. It was an overwhelmingly English team so Im not too bothered by the slip up there, but at least make a effort with the names.
They interviewed Maggie Alfonse (spelling??) the other day. Why not get her out there to commentate on the game. She is a lot more current and probably knows a fair few of the players in person. Couldn't have been any worse.
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:21 pm
by Numbers
OptimisticJock wrote:50m rifle shooting today. 50m! Are you serious?
Air rifles and minute targets, the 10 point bull is 1cm in diameter, if it's windy it could be quite challenging.
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:23 pm
by OptimisticJock
Numbers wrote:OptimisticJock wrote:50m rifle shooting today. 50m! Are you serious?
Air rifles and minute targets, the 10 point bull is 1cm in diameter, if it's windy it could be quite challenging.
Yeah you're not going to convince me with that.
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:23 pm
by Numbers
Does Clare Balding have the same wigmaker as Trump?
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:35 pm
by Lizard
So our golfer who is not the son of an All Black is plummeting down the leader board already.
I'm keeping an eye on that via the app, and flicking between the rowing and Eng v Pak cricket on the telly.
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:39 pm
by BBD
Pakistanis morning as a 4th wicket falls
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:43 pm
by Which Tyler
OptimisticJock wrote:They told me 15 minutes after they came on air. Why didn't they start their show with timings? They were too busy gobbing off at each other like it was a radio 1 show. I'm here for the Olympics, primarily British, not your shite patter.
Don't have them on speed dial mate.
So you still can't read a schedule - you have to be told things rather than finding out for yourself?
you don't need to, BBC does have email, facebook and twitter
Sandydragon wrote:Almost as good as Clive "I can't be bothered to learn the ladies players names, but they are all English' Woodward's commentary on the women's 7s. It was an overwhelmingly English team so Im not too bothered by the slip up there, but at least make a effort with the names.
They interviewed Maggie Alfonse (spelling??) the other day. Why not get her out there to commentate on the game. She is a lot more current and probably knows a fair few of the players in person. Couldn't have been any worse.
Abso-bloody-lutely.
SCW took a whole day to remember what gender were playing; hasn't yet managed to get his head around Spain being a different country to Brazil; and a fair few other mistakes about which country was playing (IIRC he called USA the kiwis; and few others I noticed)
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:51 pm
by Lizard
Women's pair through to the final, which is good. But that effort won't help the women's 8 which the pair are also part of.
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:58 pm
by Lizard
Lightweight women's double through, too. Helped by the Chinese catching a crab.
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:00 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
Lizard wrote:Women's pair through to the final, which is good. But that effort won't help the women's 8 which the pair are also part of.
I'm still hopeful that the rest of the women's pairs are fighting for the minor medals with Glover and Stanning massive favourites.
How are you doing in the tables?
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:15 pm
by Lizard
Down to 5th on the all-medals per capita...
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:32 pm
by OptimisticJock
Which Tyler wrote:OptimisticJock wrote:They told me 15 minutes after they came on air. Why didn't they start their show with timings? They were too busy gobbing off at each other like it was a radio 1 show. I'm here for the Olympics, primarily British, not your shite patter.
Don't have them on speed dial mate.
So you still can't read a schedule - you have to be told things rather than finding out for yourself?
you don't need to, BBC does have email, facebook and twitter
you are an editor for the Beeb eh? Sorry to have pissed on your chips but your coverage is shite.
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:57 pm
by Lizard
NZ women's 8 through to final. Canada killed it though.
Re: The 2016 Olympic Games
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:06 pm
by Lizard
Men's 8 through as well.