Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.morepork wrote:I am not initiate to this institution. My assumption was based on the shout metric. Doff of the cap to Maro for shortening the class gap.Eugene Wrayburn wrote:He's an old Harrovian. Hooray Henry, maybe, but not a chav.morepork wrote:He's not dirty at all. He is quite cynical and draws attention to that by being a shouty chav.
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cashead wrote:Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.morepork wrote:I am not initiate to this institution. My assumption was based on the shout metric. Doff of the cap to Maro for shortening the class gap.Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
He's an old Harrovian. Hooray Henry, maybe, but not a chav.
But.....shouty.....
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The Lions will shout the ABs off the park. They made a good start this week when the pack all started yammering at the lineout to drown out the Chiefs' throwing calls (not quite sporting IMO, but rather funny.)morepork wrote:cashead wrote:Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.morepork wrote:
I am not initiate to this institution. My assumption was based on the shout metric. Doff of the cap to Maro for shortening the class gap.
But.....shouty.....
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Spiffy wrote:The Lions will shout the ABs off the park. They made a good start this week when the pack all started yammering at the lineout to drown out the Chiefs' throwing calls (not quite sporting IMO, but rather funny.)morepork wrote:cashead wrote: Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.
But.....shouty.....
See. Chavs. Chris Ashton is yelling at his screen somewhere.
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Better a chav than a bogan.morepork wrote:Spiffy wrote:The Lions will shout the ABs off the park. They made a good start this week when the pack all started yammering at the lineout to drown out the Chiefs' throwing calls (not quite sporting IMO, but rather funny.)morepork wrote:
But.....shouty.....
See. Chavs. Chris Ashton is yelling at his screen somewhere.
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Isn't the essential difference just choice of hairstyle and footwear?Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Better a chav than a bogan.morepork wrote:Spiffy wrote:
The Lions will shout the ABs off the park. They made a good start this week when the pack all started yammering at the lineout to drown out the Chiefs' throwing calls (not quite sporting IMO, but rather funny.)
See. Chavs. Chris Ashton is yelling at his screen somewhere.
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Yes, but those mullets are horrific.Stones of granite wrote:Isn't the essential difference just choice of hairstyle and footwear?Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Better a chav than a bogan.morepork wrote:
See. Chavs. Chris Ashton is yelling at his screen somewhere.
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
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He is a bright lad; Eddie has told him he needs to toughen up and this is how it manifests itself. He needs to calm down and stop shipping two penalties a game, but hell of a player.cashead wrote:Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.morepork wrote:I am not initiate to this institution. My assumption was based on the shout metric. Doff of the cap to Maro for shortening the class gap.Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
He's an old Harrovian. Hooray Henry, maybe, but not a chav.
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I'm sure you'd love his work, political brothers really.cashead wrote:Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.morepork wrote:I am not initiate to this institution. My assumption was based on the shout metric. Doff of the cap to Maro for shortening the class gap.Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
He's an old Harrovian. Hooray Henry, maybe, but not a chav.
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I wouldn't mind reading his essay on Ghanaian politics, actually.Digby wrote:I'm sure you'd love his work, political brothers really.cashead wrote:Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.morepork wrote:
I am not initiate to this institution. My assumption was based on the shout metric. Doff of the cap to Maro for shortening the class gap.
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Shame on you, sweet Nerevar
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There's definitely an element of 'Welshness' creeping in to his game. I'm finding it harder and harder to like him.
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I read in a paper a comment from Kruis that this was a planned and coached strategy to try and interfere with the New Zealand line out.Spiffy wrote:The Lions will shout the ABs off the park. They made a good start this week when the pack all started yammering at the lineout to drown out the Chiefs' throwing calls (not quite sporting IMO, but rather funny.)morepork wrote:cashead wrote: Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.
But.....shouty.....
If I was the ref I'd be pinging that straight away for Unsportsmanlike Conduct. It's frankly a pretty pathetic way to act on the pitch imo and it really does smack of desperation from a team. It annoys me no end when playing and watching.
Just save that effort into trying to be better than your oppo...
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Noit sure it has an effect, when was the last time you saw a pro team call a lineout, the LHP seems to always whisper it to the hookerlaribold wrote:I read in a paper a comment from Kruis that this was a planned and coached strategy to try and interfere with the New Zealand line out.Spiffy wrote:The Lions will shout the ABs off the park. They made a good start this week when the pack all started yammering at the lineout to drown out the Chiefs' throwing calls (not quite sporting IMO, but rather funny.)morepork wrote:
But.....shouty.....
If I was the ref I'd be pinging that straight away for Unsportsmanlike Conduct. It's frankly a pretty pathetic way to act on the pitch imo and it really does smack of desperation from a team. It annoys me no end when playing and watching.
Just save that effort into trying to be better than your oppo...
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Quite. And even in NZ the crowd must occasionally make some noise, so you'd have to have calls that don't rely on shouts up and down the linewhatisthejava wrote:Noit sure it has an effect, when was the last time you saw a pro team call a lineout, the LHP seems to always whisper it to the hookerlaribold wrote:I read in a paper a comment from Kruis that this was a planned and coached strategy to try and interfere with the New Zealand line out.Spiffy wrote:
The Lions will shout the ABs off the park. They made a good start this week when the pack all started yammering at the lineout to drown out the Chiefs' throwing calls (not quite sporting IMO, but rather funny.)
If I was the ref I'd be pinging that straight away for Unsportsmanlike Conduct. It's frankly a pretty pathetic way to act on the pitch imo and it really does smack of desperation from a team. It annoys me no end when playing and watching.
Just save that effort into trying to be better than your oppo...
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I'd go out on a limb and suggest he'd want subsidies removed, free markets opened, yaddeyahdahcashead wrote:I wouldn't mind reading his essay on Ghanaian politics, actually.Digby wrote:I'm sure you'd love his work, political brothers really.cashead wrote: Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.
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Yup, and sometimes there isn't really a call so much as a bit of movement and throw up an unopposed man.whatisthejava wrote:Noit sure it has an effect, when was the last time you saw a pro team call a lineout, the LHP seems to always whisper it to the hookerlaribold wrote:I read in a paper a comment from Kruis that this was a planned and coached strategy to try and interfere with the New Zealand line out.Spiffy wrote:
The Lions will shout the ABs off the park. They made a good start this week when the pack all started yammering at the lineout to drown out the Chiefs' throwing calls (not quite sporting IMO, but rather funny.)
If I was the ref I'd be pinging that straight away for Unsportsmanlike Conduct. It's frankly a pretty pathetic way to act on the pitch imo and it really does smack of desperation from a team. It annoys me no end when playing and watching.
Just save that effort into trying to be better than your oppo...
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I'm amazed that pro rugby hasn't moved to baseball-style physical signs for calls rather than shouting a couple of codes. I've played for one team that relied solely on a combination of the hookers' foot position and grip on the ball while shouting decoy calls.
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We used to do that from penalty kicks to touch. On the way to the line out "right lads the real call is x so ignore whatever we say in the line out".Lizard wrote:I'm amazed that pro rugby hasn't moved to baseball-style physical signs for calls rather than shouting a couple of codes. I've played for one team that relied solely on a combination of the hookers' foot position and grip on the ball while shouting decoy calls.
Some teams used to use mind numbingly simple line out codes. I remember playing for my district and the oppositions calls were fruits to the front man and veg to the middle with various numbers for movement. We stole about 90% of their ball that day.
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Most calls when you dont train very much have to be pretty simple to be honest. Cracking them doesnt get you very far if the rest of your team arent on the same page. In fact moving too much in defence just seems to end up with various people bumping into each other and no one in the air
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That one is, er, ripe for confusion!Big D wrote: Some teams used to use mind numbingly simple line out codes. I remember playing for my district and the oppositions calls were fruits to the front man and veg to the middle with various numbers for movement. We stole about 90% of their ball that day.
"Tomato"
"Olive"
Etc.
Both fruit, by the way.
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Aye our defensive system was fairly basic, two lifting pods and no movement as we'd challenge their hooker to throw it over the man. Defending in line outs, especially the old days of collapsing mauls a bit easier, used to be great fun. You'd get a shoeing but it would be worth it!Cameo wrote:Most calls when you dont train very much have to be pretty simple to be honest. Cracking them doesnt get you very far if the rest of your team arent on the same page. In fact moving too much in defence just seems to end up with various people bumping into each other and no one in the air
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That will come in the books in due course.Big D wrote:Back to the Lions. There is the odd murmuring on social media that there has been a split in the camp. Not seen anyone that would be considered sensible discussing it though.
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Big D wrote:Back to the Lions. There is the odd murmuring on social media that there has been a split in the camp. Not seen anyone that would be considered sensible discussing it though.
Any links?
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I'll have a look and see if I can find them. It was literally the odd reply on different pages facebook status and post on twitter. Probably wasn't even worth mentioning to be honest.Chunks Baws wrote:Big D wrote:Back to the Lions. There is the odd murmuring on social media that there has been a split in the camp. Not seen anyone that would be considered sensible discussing it though.
Any links?