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morepork wrote:

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:

morepork wrote:He's not dirty at all. He is quite cynical and draws attention to that by being a shouty chav.

He's an old Harrovian. Hooray Henry, maybe, but not a chav.

I am not initiate to this institution. My assumption was based on the shout metric. Doff of the cap to Maro for shortening the class gap.

Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.

cashead wrote:

morepork wrote:

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
He's an old Harrovian. Hooray Henry, maybe, but not a chav.

I am not initiate to this institution. My assumption was based on the shout metric. Doff of the cap to Maro for shortening the class gap.

Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.

But.....shouty.....

morepork wrote:

cashead wrote:

morepork wrote:
I am not initiate to this institution. My assumption was based on the shout metric. Doff of the cap to Maro for shortening the class gap.

Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.

But.....shouty.....

The Lions will shout the ABs off the park. They made a good start this week when the pack all started yammering at the lineout to drown out the Chiefs' throwing calls (not quite sporting IMO, but rather funny.)

Spiffy wrote:

morepork wrote:

cashead wrote: Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.

But.....shouty.....

The Lions will shout the ABs off the park. They made a good start this week when the pack all started yammering at the lineout to drown out the Chiefs' throwing calls (not quite sporting IMO, but rather funny.)

See. Chavs. Chris Ashton is yelling at his screen somewhere.

morepork wrote:

Spiffy wrote:

morepork wrote:

But.....shouty.....

The Lions will shout the ABs off the park. They made a good start this week when the pack all started yammering at the lineout to drown out the Chiefs' throwing calls (not quite sporting IMO, but rather funny.)

See. Chavs. Chris Ashton is yelling at his screen somewhere.

Better a chav than a bogan.

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:

morepork wrote:

Spiffy wrote:
The Lions will shout the ABs off the park. They made a good start this week when the pack all started yammering at the lineout to drown out the Chiefs' throwing calls (not quite sporting IMO, but rather funny.)

See. Chavs. Chris Ashton is yelling at his screen somewhere.

Better a chav than a bogan.

Isn't the essential difference just choice of hairstyle and footwear?

Stones of granite wrote:

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:

morepork wrote:

See. Chavs. Chris Ashton is yelling at his screen somewhere.

Better a chav than a bogan.

Isn't the essential difference just choice of hairstyle and footwear?

Yes, but those mullets are horrific.

cashead wrote:

morepork wrote:

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
He's an old Harrovian. Hooray Henry, maybe, but not a chav.

I am not initiate to this institution. My assumption was based on the shout metric. Doff of the cap to Maro for shortening the class gap.

Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.

He is a bright lad; Eddie has told him he needs to toughen up and this is how it manifests itself. He needs to calm down and stop shipping two penalties a game, but hell of a player.

cashead wrote:

morepork wrote:

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
He's an old Harrovian. Hooray Henry, maybe, but not a chav.

I am not initiate to this institution. My assumption was based on the shout metric. Doff of the cap to Maro for shortening the class gap.

Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.

I'm sure you'd love his work, political brothers really.

Digby wrote:

cashead wrote:

morepork wrote:
I am not initiate to this institution. My assumption was based on the shout metric. Doff of the cap to Maro for shortening the class gap.

Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.

I'm sure you'd love his work, political brothers really.

I wouldn't mind reading his essay on Ghanaian politics, actually.

There's definitely an element of 'Welshness' creeping in to his game. I'm finding it harder and harder to like him.

Spiffy wrote:

morepork wrote:

cashead wrote: Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.

But.....shouty.....

The Lions will shout the ABs off the park. They made a good start this week when the pack all started yammering at the lineout to drown out the Chiefs' throwing calls (not quite sporting IMO, but rather funny.)

I read in a paper a comment from Kruis that this was a planned and coached strategy to try and interfere with the New Zealand line out.

If I was the ref I'd be pinging that straight away for Unsportsmanlike Conduct. It's frankly a pretty pathetic way to act on the pitch imo and it really does smack of desperation from a team. It annoys me no end when playing and watching.
Just save that effort into trying to be better than your oppo...

laribold wrote:

Spiffy wrote:

morepork wrote:

But.....shouty.....

The Lions will shout the ABs off the park. They made a good start this week when the pack all started yammering at the lineout to drown out the Chiefs' throwing calls (not quite sporting IMO, but rather funny.)

I read in a paper a comment from Kruis that this was a planned and coached strategy to try and interfere with the New Zealand line out.

If I was the ref I'd be pinging that straight away for Unsportsmanlike Conduct. It's frankly a pretty pathetic way to act on the pitch imo and it really does smack of desperation from a team. It annoys me no end when playing and watching.
Just save that effort into trying to be better than your oppo...

Noit sure it has an effect, when was the last time you saw a pro team call a lineout, the LHP seems to always whisper it to the hooker

whatisthejava wrote:

laribold wrote:

Spiffy wrote:
The Lions will shout the ABs off the park. They made a good start this week when the pack all started yammering at the lineout to drown out the Chiefs' throwing calls (not quite sporting IMO, but rather funny.)

I read in a paper a comment from Kruis that this was a planned and coached strategy to try and interfere with the New Zealand line out.

If I was the ref I'd be pinging that straight away for Unsportsmanlike Conduct. It's frankly a pretty pathetic way to act on the pitch imo and it really does smack of desperation from a team. It annoys me no end when playing and watching.
Just save that effort into trying to be better than your oppo...

Noit sure it has an effect, when was the last time you saw a pro team call a lineout, the LHP seems to always whisper it to the hooker

Quite. And even in NZ the crowd must occasionally make some noise, so you'd have to have calls that don't rely on shouts up and down the line

cashead wrote:

Digby wrote:

cashead wrote: Itoje is actually an academic and comes from a family of them. He seems like a thoughtful lad when you read up on him.

I'm sure you'd love his work, political brothers really.

I wouldn't mind reading his essay on Ghanaian politics, actually.

I'd go out on a limb and suggest he'd want subsidies removed, free markets opened, yaddeyahdah

whatisthejava wrote:

laribold wrote:

Spiffy wrote:
The Lions will shout the ABs off the park. They made a good start this week when the pack all started yammering at the lineout to drown out the Chiefs' throwing calls (not quite sporting IMO, but rather funny.)

I read in a paper a comment from Kruis that this was a planned and coached strategy to try and interfere with the New Zealand line out.

If I was the ref I'd be pinging that straight away for Unsportsmanlike Conduct. It's frankly a pretty pathetic way to act on the pitch imo and it really does smack of desperation from a team. It annoys me no end when playing and watching.
Just save that effort into trying to be better than your oppo...

Noit sure it has an effect, when was the last time you saw a pro team call a lineout, the LHP seems to always whisper it to the hooker

Yup, and sometimes there isn't really a call so much as a bit of movement and throw up an unopposed man.

I'm amazed that pro rugby hasn't moved to baseball-style physical signs for calls rather than shouting a couple of codes. I've played for one team that relied solely on a combination of the hookers' foot position and grip on the ball while shouting decoy calls.

Lizard wrote:I'm amazed that pro rugby hasn't moved to baseball-style physical signs for calls rather than shouting a couple of codes. I've played for one team that relied solely on a combination of the hookers' foot position and grip on the ball while shouting decoy calls.

We used to do that from penalty kicks to touch. On the way to the line out "right lads the real call is x so ignore whatever we say in the line out".

Some teams used to use mind numbingly simple line out codes. I remember playing for my district and the oppositions calls were fruits to the front man and veg to the middle with various numbers for movement. We stole about 90% of their ball that day.

Most calls when you dont train very much have to be pretty simple to be honest. Cracking them doesnt get you very far if the rest of your team arent on the same page. In fact moving too much in defence just seems to end up with various people bumping into each other and no one in the air

Big D wrote: Some teams used to use mind numbingly simple line out codes. I remember playing for my district and the oppositions calls were fruits to the front man and veg to the middle with various numbers for movement. We stole about 90% of their ball that day.

That one is, er, ripe for confusion!

"Tomato"
"Olive"

Etc.

Both fruit, by the way.

Cameo wrote:Most calls when you dont train very much have to be pretty simple to be honest. Cracking them doesnt get you very far if the rest of your team arent on the same page. In fact moving too much in defence just seems to end up with various people bumping into each other and no one in the air

Aye our defensive system was fairly basic, two lifting pods and no movement as we'd challenge their hooker to throw it over the man. Defending in line outs, especially the old days of collapsing mauls a bit easier, used to be great fun. You'd get a shoeing but it would be worth it!

Back to the Lions. There is the odd murmuring on social media that there has been a split in the camp. Not seen anyone that would be considered sensible discussing it though.

Big D wrote:Back to the Lions. There is the odd murmuring on social media that there has been a split in the camp. Not seen anyone that would be considered sensible discussing it though.

That will come in the books in due course.

Big D wrote:Back to the Lions. There is the odd murmuring on social media that there has been a split in the camp. Not seen anyone that would be considered sensible discussing it though.

Any links?

Chunks Baws wrote:

Big D wrote:Back to the Lions. There is the odd murmuring on social media that there has been a split in the camp. Not seen anyone that would be considered sensible discussing it though.

Any links?

I'll have a look and see if I can find them. It was literally the odd reply on different pages facebook status and post on twitter. Probably wasn't even worth mentioning to be honest.