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Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 6:01 pm
by fivepointer
Really like what i've seen of Wimbush. He's definitely got ......something.

Can he kick on this season?

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:01 am
by Banquo
Hopefully we’ll see the Wimbush generation …

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:25 am
by Mikey Brown
I wasn't aware of Wimbush being thought of as an international prospect at all. I didn't really know if the last few posts were serious or not. I knew he was big but wasn't sure what else he offered.

I can't say this highlight reel was particularly illuminating, other than that he has a semi-decent step/hands for a big guy I guess.



Am I missing something?

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:31 am
by FKAS
I think with Wimbush it's the potential as opposed to where he is now. He's big, quick and has good hands. He's only 20 and was picked out of the Exeter University link with the Chiefs so is fresh into pro rugby. He's looked at home at Prem level already. If he can make a couple of developmental jumps over the next couple of years then yeah he could be very much on the England radar.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 10:24 am
by Mellsblue
Is there a developmental league he can play in?

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:32 pm
by FKAS
Mellsblue wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 10:24 am Is there a developmental league he can play in?
He was playing BUCS already. It's where they found him. Might go on loan to Pirates. Now if only the RFU would sort something more meaningful out eh...

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 1:08 pm
by Oakboy
Mellsblue wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 10:24 am Is there a developmental league he can play in?
Have Exeter got loads of quality ICs ahead of him? I'd be surprised if he's not there or thereabouts as a starter.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 1:42 pm
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 10:24 am Is there a developmental league he can play in?
:lol: :lol:

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:17 pm
by Puja
Oakboy wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 1:08 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 10:24 am Is there a developmental league he can play in?
Have Exeter got loads of quality ICs ahead of him? I'd be surprised if he's not there or thereabouts as a starter.
Slade's rehab from surgery could be at an ideal time for him. It does give him a chance to get into the XV.

Puja

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:49 pm
by FKAS
Oakboy wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 1:08 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 10:24 am Is there a developmental league he can play in?
Have Exeter got loads of quality ICs ahead of him? I'd be surprised if he's not there or thereabouts as a starter.
All his starts were at 13. I think he appeared on the wing a few times as well. Versatility could get him some game time. Chiefs have got Hawkins and the former NZ under 20 centre whatever his name is as options at 12.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:51 pm
by Banquo
fivepointer wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 6:01 pm

Can he kick
...is all the attack coach will want to know...

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:38 pm
by Which Tyler
Banquo wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:51 pm...is all the attack coach will want to know...
Nah, needs to be willing and able to chase, even a completely lost cause that's a complete waste of energy to chase

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 5:29 pm
by Puja
Banquo wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:51 pm
fivepointer wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 6:01 pm

Can he kick
...is all the attack coach will want to know...
If he's playing 12, then it's just be "Can he crash it up?"

Puja

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 8:01 pm
by FKAS
Puja wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 5:29 pm
Banquo wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:51 pm
fivepointer wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 6:01 pm

Can he kick
...is all the attack coach will want to know...
If he's playing 12, then it's just be "Can he crash it up?"

Puja
And make his tackles, our defence now being a key element of our attack.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 11:46 pm
by Puja
Marler a doubt for the AIs with a broken foot.

Also, having started doing the m-b-m again today, I'm now in favour of Wimbush at 12 for England. Our sole criteria for 12 appears to be "looks big and scary and willing to either run into traffic or look like you're going to run into traffic to draw defence while we play around you." Wimbush certainly has the frame for it and if he can hold onto the ball in traffic, that would appear to be a novel bonus rather than a pre-requisite skill for selection.

Puja

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 4:11 pm
by Danno
Puja wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 11:46 pm if he can hold onto the ball in traffic
Puja
I'm tempted to post the stoning sketch from Life of Brian at this point

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:04 am
by Mellsblue
Times article today had this little nugget:

‘Genge would like to see that data used in the coverage of rugby.

“It would be cool if they show the impacts on the telly and and how fast the players are running,” he said. “[The Bristol wing] Rich Lane’s ten-metre time was 0.4 seconds quicker than Noah Lyles, who won the 100m at the Olympics.‘

#startingschool

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 9:06 am
by Scrumhead
I wasn’t sure where to put this, but I thought it was a good read: https://www.rugbypass.com/news/christ-t ... es-exeter/

Nicely articulates why switching between the back row and second row (and vice versa) isn’t as easy as it’s sometimes made out to be. We talk about it quite casually here, but given we have quite a few options who split their time between both (Chessum, Coles, occasionally Martin and Itoje), I thought it was relevant.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 4:28 pm
by TheNomad
Where do we discuss the issue around Borthwick's backroom staff all buggering off? Bit of a concern, really

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 4:40 pm
by twitchy
In the "what's next for 24/25" thread from about page 5.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 7:42 pm
by Mellsblue
Not strictly player form but given rugby’s need for personalities and M&J players, Theo Dan was utter class with my kids yesterday. My eldest has a very amusing assortment of selfies on his phone.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 10:22 am
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 7:42 pm Not strictly player form but given rugby’s need for personalities and M&J players, Theo Dan was utter class with my kids yesterday. My eldest has a very amusing assortment of selfies on his phone.
What was the score?

Just looked up- decent effort. Fairly strong Sarries team.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:47 pm
by Scrumhead
FKAS wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:31 am I think with Wimbush it's the potential as opposed to where he is now. He's big, quick and has good hands. He's only 20 and was picked out of the Exeter University link with the Chiefs so is fresh into pro rugby. He's looked at home at Prem level already. If he can make a couple of developmental jumps over the next couple of years then yeah he could be very much on the England radar.
100% agree. However, it looks like Gatland is sniffing around very unhelpfully: https://www.rugbypass.com/news/warren-g ... for-wales/

Another one of those situations were a player is pressured into making decisions before they’re even ready for test rugby …

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:17 am
by FKAS
Scrumhead wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:47 pm
FKAS wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:31 am I think with Wimbush it's the potential as opposed to where he is now. He's big, quick and has good hands. He's only 20 and was picked out of the Exeter University link with the Chiefs so is fresh into pro rugby. He's looked at home at Prem level already. If he can make a couple of developmental jumps over the next couple of years then yeah he could be very much on the England radar.
100% agree. However, it looks like Gatland is sniffing around very unhelpfully: https://www.rugbypass.com/news/warren-g ... for-wales/

Another one of those situations were a player is pressured into making decisions before they’re even ready for test rugby …
Yeah I saw that. Wimbush would probably suit Gatland's need for big centres but the continual change in the Wales backline (particularly around 10) would probably not make for the most enjoyable introduction to test rugby. Let's hope he sees sense.

Must be slightly galling for young Welsh centres coming through to see Gatland would rather chase a young English centre who's barely played a full season, is on an academy contract and whom has only a solitary grandparent linking him to Wales. Chiefs might have to start contract negotiations soon though otherwise the Regions will be sniffing round.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:51 am
by Oakboy
Do Exeter have some special link to Wales? [Tshiunza, Hawkins, Jenkins x 2(Dafyd and Iwan). IFW was nearly Welsh as well.] If so, there's a fair chance of Wimbush being under pressure perhaps.