1872 Cup Champions

[Adder]

Kinghorn signs on for another 2 (until 2019)

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[ARM]

That's Embras two best young talents (IMO) signed up. Nice work

[Big D]

Arguably the two most important resignings. Obviously Nel is right up there too but these two have been the highlights this year. Good timing for bradbury too as he'd be negotiating as an international.

[hugh_woatmeigh]

When is Mr Nel due back? Seen some cryptic stuff on twitter/news about getting his recovery right, etc. Is he likely to miss the 6N then?

Fagerson has come on in leaps and bounds but Nel is still way ahead of him.

[General Zod]

http://www.edinburghrugby.org/news/16/1 ... -encounter

15. Blair Kinghorn

14. Damien Hoyland
13. Chris Dean
12. Junior Rasolea
11. Will Helu

10. Duncan Weir
9. Sean Kennedy

1. Allan Dell
2. Ross Ford
3. Simon Berghan
4. Fraser McKenzie
5. Ben Toolis
6. Magnus Bradbury
7. Jamie Ritchie
8. Cornell Du Preez

Replacements

16. Neil Cochrane
17. Jack Cosgrove
18. Murray McCallum
19. Lewis Carmichael
20. Viliame Mata
21. Nathan Fowles
22. Jason Tovey
23. Glenn Bryce

[hugh_woatmeigh]

Good to get a win but Edinburgh really struggled. It's f*cking Zebre.

Hodge should just blood the guys he sees making an impression next season. It's all but mathematically impossible to make top 6.

[ARM]

Embra are now 9th and that is probably where they will end up. The Italians an Dragons are muck but from the games I have seen this season, Embra look about the 9th best team in the league.

Munster, Leinster, Os, Glasgow, Ulster are in a group and then you have Cardiff, Scarlets and on their day Connacht (although they've only shown it in patches this year).

Hope I'm proved wrong and Embra get on a roll but they lack quality depth in their squad

[Big D]

Good to get a win but Edinburgh really struggled. It's f*cking Zebre.

Hodge should just blood the guys he sees making an impression next season. It's all but mathematically impossible to make top 6.

I'm sure 8th gets into a play off. So even as unlikely as 8th is looking it will be a while before a coach trying to earn the job full time would start blooding more guys.

A couple of the guys he might have tried to blood are at London Scottish. Galbraith has had gametime for Bath A too so not sure what the deal is with him.

[hugh_woatmeigh]

Richard Cockerill now looking for a job. Suspect he'll get far better offers than Embra though.

[General Zod]

Far be it from me to start spreading rumours, but he was seen outside a Pickfords van in Morningside this morning. Gospel.

[Big D]

Richard Cockerill now looking for a job. Suspect he'll get far better offers than Embra though.

Whilst I think he is a decent DoR I'm not sure his style is the type of game that would suit Edinburgh.

For me it's the type of thing where is he good enough for Edinburgh? Yes. Does his style fit? Probably not.

[whatisthejava]

We said the same about Andy Robinson and Edinburgh had their best ever finish with him

Both him and Robinson are available and I would have one if they wanted it, Hodge hasn't managed to right the ship so I think a clear out is the only answer, Edinburgh lack any clear strategy or even look like they care if they win or not.

[hugh_woatmeigh]

A no nonsense, back to basics coach is exactly what Edinburgh need. Cockerill would get rid off the passengers in the squad as well. Edinburgh would be lucky to have him IMO. I suspect they can't afford him and he won't want to go there anyway.

Edinburgh don't have the luxury of choosing a 'style'. They're not Glasgow who have developed an attacking style of rugby that works over the last few years and as a result can opt for a coach who will continue that. Edinburgh are aimless, clueless and directionless. Everything good they do comes from opportunistic rugby or individual moments of brilliance. They desperately need a coach to get them back to basics and Cockerill would be an excellent fit IMO.

[Big D]

We said the same about Andy Robinson and Edinburgh had their best ever finish with him

Both him and Robinson are available and I would have one if they wanted it, Hodge hasn't managed to right the ship so I think a clear out is the only answer, Edinburgh lack any clear strategy or even look like they care if they win or not.

He'd need a quality backs/attack coach to come in with him (cockerill) and by all accounts he's struggled to play nice with Mauger at the Tiggers. Edinburgh will be relying heavily on the new coach bringing through young Scottish forwards and backs and that is something he hasn't really done at Leicester with any success. And Edinburgh don't have the budget for the type of signings like JPP, Betham and Toomua.

Wouldn't have Robinson back. Did the bare minimum at Bristol with the deck stacked heavily in his favour in the championship. 7 years since he coached Edinburgh, 4 and a bit since Scotland. The game has moved on and he hasn't really adapted.

Don't think Hodge is the answer either right enough.

[hugh_woatmeigh]

Agreed Java. Some fans may see Robinson as a backwards step but you just have to look at how far Edinburgh have regressed since he was there. They need someone to steady the ship for the next 2-3 years and develop their youngsters before they even begin to contemplate the next step of their journey as a club.

The club and the fans have endured enough crap for the last few years. Edinburgh Rugby simply cannot afford to get this appointment wrong. It's been 5-6 years since the club had anything remotely close to resembling a good season.

[OptimisticJock]

We said the same about Andy Robinson and Edinburgh had their best ever finish with him

Both him and Robinson are available and I would have one if they wanted it, Hodge hasn't managed to right the ship so I think a clear out is the only answer, Edinburgh lack any clear strategy or even look like they care if they win or not.

Thats true but he's done trout with Bristol so I'd not be interested.

[General Zod]

If we wait a wee while, Allister Coetzee could be looking for a job..!

[Mikey Brown]

Getting rid of passengers is not Cockerill's thing.

[whatisthejava]

Reckon Malinder is safe but if the French guy ends up buying Glass I can see Humpreys getting jettisoned, think he may be good for us.

Is Dave Rennie still coming to Glasgow or are the springboks still sniffing around him

[Cameo]

A no nonsense, back to basics coach is exactly what Edinburgh need. Cockerill would get rid off the passengers in the squad as well. Edinburgh would be lucky to have him IMO. I suspect they can't afford him and he won't want to go there anyway.

Edinburgh don't have the luxury of choosing a 'style'. They're not Glasgow who have developed an attacking style of rugby that works over the last few years and as a result can opt for a coach who will continue that. Edinburgh are aimless, clueless and directionless. Everything good they do comes from opportunistic rugby or individual moments of brilliance. They desperately need a coach to get them back to basics and Cockerill would be an excellent fit IMO.

Wasnt solomons the back to basics coach?

[General Zod]

Is Dave Rennie still coming to Glasgow or are the springboks still sniffing around him

From what I can gather, the SARU are meeting in January to discuss, amongst other things, the head coach position for the Boks. As much as they may like to appoint someone else, there are a couple of things going against them:-

1 - They are skint. WP/ Stormers were put into a form of administration recently and they have been using the corporate shield to re-structure debt. Of itself, that's not always a sign that they are strapped for cash, but it's a symptom of a wider problem in SA rugby. Finding the money to compensate Glasgow is a bit of a gamble. There are wider problems in SA Rugby and some people who believe the malaise is more deep-seated than a change of national coach can address would resist changing Coetzee on the basis that it's be like re-arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic.

2 - Political (i.e. Government) interference in selection matters, including selection of a Head Coach. Ditching Coetzee for, say, Rennie, may mean pressures come to bear on Government funding, so the SARU may just keep a watching brief until after their next test series - 3 matches v France in June.

Anyway, I think Humphreys may be a shout - didn't think about him.

Also, I just read the rules re: ERC Champions Cup qualification. There is a scenario where Edinburgh could finish 9th and still qualify for the Champions Cup!

http://www.epcrugby.com/europeanrugbych ... /index.php

[switchskier]

No to cockers and Robinson please. Edinburgh needs a new coach with a vision and a bit of time to build it. Silly had a plan but it wasn't working, we need a young coach who wants to be with the team for a decade and really build the club. Where's Simon Cross these days?

[whatisthejava]

No to cockers and Robinson please. Edinburgh needs a new coach with a vision and a bit of time to build it. Silly had a plan but it wasn't working, we need a young coach who wants to be with the team for a decade and really build the club. Where's Simon Cross these days?

Your never getting a decade with an amateur club, no way you will get that long with a pro club.

The problem is since Moffat left we have went from 1 short term fix to another, we gave Solly time but him and the coaches were well out of their depth and the rugby was boring as hell to watch

Hodge is doing better but still hasn't managed to get the team performing any better, perhaps we give him to the end of the season as they have the talent to scrape into top 6

[Cameo]

Very off topic but did anyone else miss that Piers Francis seems to have been playing at ten for the auckland blues?

[hugh_woatmeigh]

Very off topic but did anyone else miss that Piers Francis seems to have been playing at ten for the auckland blues?

Good for him.

How Edinburgh have managed to discard so many promising or even just reliable 10s over the last decade or so is beyond me.