WaspInWales wrote:Why is it that when someone 'associates' themselves with the baby hands Trump, their suits fail to fit properly...just like the orange twat himself?
Why not? Everyone settles a 7 billion dollar investment in two weeks, don't they?
What is wrong with you? Are you a commie?
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:41 am
by WaspInWales
morepork wrote:
WaspInWales wrote:Why is it that when someone 'associates' themselves with the baby hands Trump, their suits fail to fit properly...just like the orange twat himself?
Why not? Everyone settles a 7 billion dollar investment in two weeks, don't they?
What is wrong with you? Are you a commie?
Da, I mean net.
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:09 am
by Lord Lucan
Killary is back in the news, claiming the future is female. She looks like she is made of wax, she is becoming more hideous looking than ever, and she is clearly becoming more demented as time goes on.
The future is female is it Killary? well take a look at Sweden, feminists have been running that country for years. They have taken what was once one of the best countries in Europe, with one of the highest standards of living, and turned it into a crime ridden shit hole, thats been dubbed the rape capital of the world, way to go girls. And if this isn't bad enough, they are busy hiding all the crime statistics, because they are in such denial on what a monumental pigs ear they have made by allowing massive unvetted migration from the middle east. This isn't going to end well.
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:17 am
by WaspInWales
Hmmm,
In other news, Sessions is confirmed as AG. 52-47.
#Landslide.
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:17 am
by WaspInWales
This is all a little too obvious???
Re: RE: Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:13 am
by canta_brian
Lord Lucan wrote:Killary is back in the news, claiming the future is female. She looks like she is made of wax, she is becoming more hideous looking than ever, and she is clearly becoming more demented as time goes on.
The future is female is it Killary? well take a look at Sweden, feminists have been running that country for years. They have taken what was once one of the best countries in Europe, with one of the highest standards of living, and turned it into a crime ridden shit hole, thats been dubbed the rape capital of the world, way to go girls. And if this isn't bad enough, they are busy hiding all the crime statistics, because they are in such denial on what a monumental pigs ear they have made by allowing massive unvetted migration from the middle east. This isn't going to end well.
The xenophobic fear of the "other" is not limited to Sweden, certainly. In the United States, presumed Republican nominee Donald Trump made headlines around the world after describing Mexican immigrants as "rapists."
"One of the ghosts of all kinds of racial prejudices is allegations of sexual crimes against women," Sarnecki said, noting that in the 19th and 20th centuries many African-American men were executed based on (often unproven) allegations of raping white women. "It's an old, very well-used argument against immigrants."
Re: RE: Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:50 am
by loudnconfident
canta_brian wrote:
Lord Lucan wrote:Killary is back in the news, claiming the future is female. She looks like she is made of wax, she is becoming more hideous looking than ever, and she is clearly becoming more demented as time goes on.
The future is female is it Killary? well take a look at Sweden, feminists have been running that country for years. They have taken what was once one of the best countries in Europe, with one of the highest standards of living, and turned it into a crime ridden shit hole, thats been dubbed the rape capital of the world, way to go girls. And if this isn't bad enough, they are busy hiding all the crime statistics, because they are in such denial on what a monumental pigs ear they have made by allowing massive unvetted migration from the middle east. This isn't going to end well.
The xenophobic fear of the "other" is not limited to Sweden, certainly. In the United States, presumed Republican nominee Donald Trump made headlines around the world after describing Mexican immigrants as "rapists."
"One of the ghosts of all kinds of racial prejudices is allegations of sexual crimes against women," Sarnecki said, noting that in the 19th and 20th centuries many African-American men were executed based on (often unproven) allegations of raping white women. "It's an old, very well-used argument against immigrants."
Just before Christmas last year, a refugee from Syria forced a 13-year-old girl whom he met through Snapchat into the bathroom of a school in Northern Sweden. He locked the door and, according to the indictment, raped her, both vaginally and anally. After the rape, the man threatened the girl with violent reprisals if she would tell anyone. When apprehended, he stated to the police that the “sex was voluntary.” However, the forensic pathologist found that the girl had injuries consistent with her story. Nonetheless, he was acquitted of abuse, as the court said it was unclear what exactly was said.Shortly after this rape went to trial, he was indicted for a separate case, in which he was accused of raping a 14-year-old. He had known her a few days, and according to him, their intercourse was also voluntary. This time, the District Court agreed with him, even though the girl is below Sweden’s age of consent, as she would only turn 15 in a few weeks. This was close enough for the judge, however, so he concluded it wasn’t rape, just sexual exploitation of a child.The masterstroke of justice had yet to come. At trial, the man told the court that, despite the Immigration Board’s verdict that he was born in 1998, he was actually born in 1999. Which made him seventeen, at the time of the crimes. The judge concluded that he was probably telling the truth, so he was tried as a minor. He got a reduced sentence, which means a man who raped two girls younger than 15 years old, got away with a prison sentence of only two months and probation. Go Sweden!
Lord Lucan wrote:Killary is back in the news, claiming the future is female. She looks like she is made of wax, she is becoming more hideous looking than ever, and she is clearly becoming more demented as time goes on.
The future is female is it Killary? well take a look at Sweden, feminists have been running that country for years. They have taken what was once one of the best countries in Europe, with one of the highest standards of living, and turned it into a crime ridden shit hole, thats been dubbed the rape capital of the world, way to go girls. And if this isn't bad enough, they are busy hiding all the crime statistics, because they are in such denial on what a monumental pigs ear they have made by allowing massive unvetted migration from the middle east. This isn't going to end well.
The xenophobic fear of the "other" is not limited to Sweden, certainly. In the United States, presumed Republican nominee Donald Trump made headlines around the world after describing Mexican immigrants as "rapists."
"One of the ghosts of all kinds of racial prejudices is allegations of sexual crimes against women," Sarnecki said, noting that in the 19th and 20th centuries many African-American men were executed based on (often unproven) allegations of raping white women. "It's an old, very well-used argument against immigrants."
Just before Christmas last year, a refugee from Syria forced a 13-year-old girl whom he met through Snapchat into the bathroom of a school in Northern Sweden. He locked the door and, according to the indictment, raped her, both vaginally and anally. After the rape, the man threatened the girl with violent reprisals if she would tell anyone. When apprehended, he stated to the police that the “sex was voluntary.” However, the forensic pathologist found that the girl had injuries consistent with her story. Nonetheless, he was acquitted of abuse, as the court said it was unclear what exactly was said.Shortly after this rape went to trial, he was indicted for a separate case, in which he was accused of raping a 14-year-old. He had known her a few days, and according to him, their intercourse was also voluntary. This time, the District Court agreed with him, even though the girl is below Sweden’s age of consent, as she would only turn 15 in a few weeks. This was close enough for the judge, however, so he concluded it wasn’t rape, just sexual exploitation of a child.The masterstroke of justice had yet to come. At trial, the man told the court that, despite the Immigration Board’s verdict that he was born in 1998, he was actually born in 1999. Which made him seventeen, at the time of the crimes. The judge concluded that he was probably telling the truth, so he was tried as a minor. He got a reduced sentence, which means a man who raped two girls younger than 15 years old, got away with a prison sentence of only two months and probation. Go Sweden!
You didn't read the entire article in the link did you.
Edit: Nice first ever post outside of the rugby boards by the way. Good of you to realise that everything posted here has to be in black or white, with no room for any nuance.
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:46 pm
by loudnconfident
canta_brian wrote:
You didn't read the entire article in the link did you.
Unfortunately I did. Its truly shocking how little they care:
"Jerzy Sarnecki, a professor of criminology at Stockholm University, told The Daily Beast. "According to studies which I have done on general crime, most of the differences in recorded crimes between immigrants and Swedes are explained by socioeconomic factors. It doesn't mean of course, that one, a few, or several other incidents of that kind [sexual assaults perpetuated by immigrants] didn't happen.Young men coming from the Middle East confronting the much more open way of behavior of Swedish women may have, from time to time, committed acts which are criminal,"
A nicely "nuanced" way of putting it.
canta_brian wrote:
Edit: Nice first ever post outside of the rugby boards by the way.
You're welcome
canta_brian wrote:
Good of you to realise that everything posted here has to be in black or white, with no room for any nuance.
When it comes to rape and murder, I'm afraid I have no room for nuance at all.
And much like the BBC piece above, the daily beast also mentions the concerns in Sweden surrounding the gender imbalance in the asylum seeking demographics.
It also mentions that reported rape cases went down between 2013 and 2014. As horrifying as individual cases can be, I don't think anyone has tried to argue otherwise, using them in place of statistics will give a skewed picture of what is happening.
My post was in response to Lord Lucan's one suggesting that having women in power has lead to Sweden seeing becoming the rape capital of the world. Read his post again and if you agree with its misogyny then come out and say so. Don't hide behind the tragic deaths of some individual Swedish women to try and make a cheap point.
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:28 pm
by morepork
People that make statements on population patterns based on a case-by-case analysis should probably get themselves back to school.
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:30 pm
by Donny osmond
Jesus wept, that Swedish rape crisis in reality. This took about 3 mins with a simple google search...
Imagine, for example, if your boss rubbed against you in an unwanted way at work once a week for a year. In Canada, this would potentially be a case of sexual assault. Under Germany's more limited laws, it would be zero cases. In Sweden, it would be tallied as 52 separate cases of rape. If you engaged in a half-dozen sex acts with your spouse, then later you felt you had not given consent, in Sweden that would be classified as six cases of rape
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:34 pm
by morepork
Wahey. Statistics and variables. BOOM.
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:22 pm
by Lord Lucan
There seems to be so many apologists out there, who would rather not believe what radical Islam or some muslims in general are doing in Europe and around the world these days, I'm not sure why this is. I would rather that they actually were the peaceful people that some are determined to portray them as, unfortunately the truth is rather different.
Trump was right to point out the fact that radical Islamic terrorism is under reported, he is 100% correct in this regard. The media picks and chooses what it reports.
How many here have heard of the church service in Nigeria that was rudely interrupted by Boko Haram? they preceded to take out the congregation one at a time, row by row, took them outside, tied them up, hands and feet, then cut their throats. How many have heard of this? non I bet. Another one, again in Nigeria, a woman pastor was preaching on a street corner, to anyone who wanted to listen, some radicals came along and beheaded her. Did the BBC report this? did they feck, why not, are these peoples lives not worth as much as others or what.
This website trys to cover everything that the radicals are doing, from people supposedly offending Islam, to what the radical butchers are doing on a daily basis. The media seem to be more concerned about not offending Islam than actually reporting the truth about what is going on.
Just type in thereligionofpeace.
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:59 pm
by morepork
"This website trys to cover everything that the radicals are doing, from people supposedly offending Islam, to what the radical butchers are doing on a daily basis."
The fuck it is you pilchard.
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:15 pm
by rowan
Lord Lucan wrote:There seems to be so many apologists out there, who would rather not believe what radical Islam or some muslims in general are doing in Europe and around the world these days, I'm not sure why this is. I would rather that they actually were the peaceful people that some are determined to portray them as, unfortunately the truth is rather different.
Trump was right to point out the fact that radical Islamic terrorism is under reported, he is 100% correct in this regard. The media picks and chooses what it reports.
How many here have heard of the church service in Nigeria that was rudely interrupted by Boko Haram? they preceded to take out the congregation one at a time, row by row, took them outside, tied them up, hands and feet, then cut their throats. How many have heard of this? non I bet. Another one, again in Nigeria, a woman pastor was preaching on a street corner, to anyone who wanted to listen, some radicals came along and beheaded her. Did the BBC report this? did they feck, why not, are these peoples lives not worth as much as others or what.
This website trys to cover everything that the radicals are doing, from people supposedly offending Islam, to what the radical butchers are doing on a daily basis. The media seem to be more concerned about not offending Islam than actually reporting the truth about what is going on.
Just type in thereligionofpeace.
Nigeria is a very big and complicated country, divided between Christian and Islam as a legacy of British rule, and long corrupted at the top level by foreign involvement in the oil industry. That's not to say they are not responsible for their own problems. To a large extent they are.
Boko Haram became radicalized following the execution of their leader Mohammed Yusuf in police custody seven-and-a-half years ago. Their running battles with the police and army turned increasingly violent and escalated to tit-for-tat acts of blatant terrorism. The ones you especially don't hear about, are those carried out by the state.
Basically, if you want to get the West interested, you have to talk about female victims, then watch the politicians of the world adopt various heroic postures and wax lyrical for the media - & do precisely nothing.
The vast majority of Boko Haram's victims have been Muslims, incidentally, as have those of the Jihadists the West refers to as 'ISIS' etc. But they are barely a drop in the ocean when compared to the state terrorism and war crimes of America and its allies, which have claimed millions of lives in the region. In this case we are talking mostly about Christian nations, several Sunni Islam nations, and one self-proclaimed Jewish state.
Re: RE: Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:36 pm
by Donny osmond
Lord Lucan wrote:There seems to be so many apologists out there, who would rather not believe what radical Islam or some muslims in general are doing in Europe and around the world these days, I'm not sure why this is. I would rather that they actually were the peaceful people that some are determined to portray them as, unfortunately the truth is rather different.
Trump was right to point out the fact that radical Islamic terrorism is under reported, he is 100% correct in this regard. The media picks and chooses what it reports.
How many here have heard of the church service in Nigeria that was rudely interrupted by Boko Haram? they preceded to take out the congregation one at a time, row by row, took them outside, tied them up, hands and feet, then cut their throats. How many have heard of this? non I bet. Another one, again in Nigeria, a woman pastor was preaching on a street corner, to anyone who wanted to listen, some radicals came along and beheaded her. Did the BBC report this? did they feck, why not, are these peoples lives not worth as much as others or what.
This website trys to cover everything that the radicals are doing, from people supposedly offending Islam, to what the radical butchers are doing on a daily basis. The media seem to be more concerned about not offending Islam than actually reporting the truth about what is going on.
Just type in thereligionofpeace.
Not sure what any of this has to do with deliberately misrepresenting rape statistics in Sweden?
Oh, sorry my bad, its obvious.
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:06 pm
by Mellsblue
I have to agree with loudandconfident. For another example, this time in the UK, just look at the grooming scandals that started in Doncaster and then spread around the country. Luckily that wouldn't happen in other cultures, communities and religions. I don't see any sexual assault scandals in the Catholic Church, Church of England, football academies or children's homes. Ah, hang on a minute, I've just realised that all vicars, priests, youth coaches and social workers are sexual predators due to a very small minority of their peers being scum.
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:17 pm
by Vengeful Glutton
canta_brian wrote:
My post was in response to Lord Lucan's one suggesting that having women in power has lead to Sweden seeing becoming the rape capital of the world. Read his post again and if you agree with its misogyny then come out and say so. Don't hide behind the tragic deaths of some individual Swedish women to try and make a cheap point.
I think it's Scandinavian authorities that are concerned about the increase in rape incidences, and how it appears to be aligned with an increase in immigration, particularly from Muslim countries. Of course it could be an alt right conspiracy.
You boys have an obsession with labelling anyone who questions lax immigration policies as "misogynist". It's thrown about like it were confetti.
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:18 pm
by Donny osmond
Truth
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:36 pm
by morepork
I have an obsession with robust sampling and reproducibility.
The obsession with weemin is yours Vegetable Mutton, it colours your narrative.
Re: RE: Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:44 pm
by Vengeful Glutton
canta_brian wrote:
Lord Lucan wrote:Killary is back in the news, claiming the future is female. She looks like she is made of wax, she is becoming more hideous looking than ever, and she is clearly becoming more demented as time goes on.
The future is female is it Killary? well take a look at Sweden, feminists have been running that country for years. They have taken what was once one of the best countries in Europe, with one of the highest standards of living, and turned it into a crime ridden shit hole, thats been dubbed the rape capital of the world, way to go girls. And if this isn't bad enough, they are busy hiding all the crime statistics, because they are in such denial on what a monumental pigs ear they have made by allowing massive unvetted migration from the middle east. This isn't going to end well.
The xenophobic fear of the "other" is not limited to Sweden, certainly. In the United States, presumed Republican nominee Donald Trump made headlines around the world after describing Mexican immigrants as "rapists."
"One of the ghosts of all kinds of racial prejudices is allegations of sexual crimes against women," Sarnecki said, noting that in the 19th and 20th centuries many African-American men were executed based on (often unproven) allegations of raping white women. "It's an old, very well-used argument against immigrants."
Historically, the alleged violation of middle & upper class white womens' chastity invariably resulted in hysteria spreading amongst the population. I'm not sure if it compares to the dehumanising of jews in 30s Germany (or the Irish in 19th century Ireland)? It certainly has occasionally punctuated the history books.
The MSM tend to shy away from reporting on it, but it's clear that there are serious problems in Germany, France, Norway and Sweden with muslim populations. Various reasons have been posited "radicalism", "youth bulge and unemployment", "the plundering of the ME" etc., and intriguingly, how muslim men view white women (views which may be formed from how white women are portrayed, or portray themselves in the media).
Another intriguing observation is that Leftism (or feminism, SJWism or whatever you want to call it) appears to becoming a trojan horse for muslim Wahabism.
Personally I think we're seeing something similar to what happened in the 4th century AD, with mass movement westward to find work and food. This time however it's being encouraged by plutocrats who are seeking access to cheap labour.
Re: RE: Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:53 pm
by Vengeful Glutton
loudnconfident wrote:
canta_brian wrote:
Lord Lucan wrote:Killary is back in the news, claiming the future is female. She looks like she is made of wax, she is becoming more hideous looking than ever, and she is clearly becoming more demented as time goes on.
The future is female is it Killary? well take a look at Sweden, feminists have been running that country for years. They have taken what was once one of the best countries in Europe, with one of the highest standards of living, and turned it into a crime ridden shit hole, thats been dubbed the rape capital of the world, way to go girls. And if this isn't bad enough, they are busy hiding all the crime statistics, because they are in such denial on what a monumental pigs ear they have made by allowing massive unvetted migration from the middle east. This isn't going to end well.
The xenophobic fear of the "other" is not limited to Sweden, certainly. In the United States, presumed Republican nominee Donald Trump made headlines around the world after describing Mexican immigrants as "rapists."
"One of the ghosts of all kinds of racial prejudices is allegations of sexual crimes against women," Sarnecki said, noting that in the 19th and 20th centuries many African-American men were executed based on (often unproven) allegations of raping white women. "It's an old, very well-used argument against immigrants."
Just before Christmas last year, a refugee from Syria forced a 13-year-old girl whom he met through Snapchat into the bathroom of a school in Northern Sweden. He locked the door and, according to the indictment, raped her, both vaginally and anally. After the rape, the man threatened the girl with violent reprisals if she would tell anyone. When apprehended, he stated to the police that the “sex was voluntary.” However, the forensic pathologist found that the girl had injuries consistent with her story. Nonetheless, he was acquitted of abuse, as the court said it was unclear what exactly was said.Shortly after this rape went to trial, he was indicted for a separate case, in which he was accused of raping a 14-year-old. He had known her a few days, and according to him, their intercourse was also voluntary. This time, the District Court agreed with him, even though the girl is below Sweden’s age of consent, as she would only turn 15 in a few weeks. This was close enough for the judge, however, so he concluded it wasn’t rape, just sexual exploitation of a child.The masterstroke of justice had yet to come. At trial, the man told the court that, despite the Immigration Board’s verdict that he was born in 1998, he was actually born in 1999. Which made him seventeen, at the time of the crimes. The judge concluded that he was probably telling the truth, so he was tried as a minor. He got a reduced sentence, which means a man who raped two girls younger than 15 years old, got away with a prison sentence of only two months and probation. Go Sweden!