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Re: Lions

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:17 am
by af73
I'd agree with that and would add that the best breaking game I think he had was one of Cotter's 1st against Argentina in 2014 (?)

It could be that he was impressing the new boss and at the time was under pressure for his place from Pyrgos - who was playing well himself. Once established and consolidated as captain he did revert somewhat to type.

Of course, he wouldn't be the first Scotland player to lift their game then settle back into a comfort zone.

Re: Lions

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:40 am
by Big D
The worrying thing about Laidlaw, and I can get past his other short comings for him to take the 21 shirt for us for now is just how slow/loopy his pass is. Even our u20s have crisper passes.

Re: Lions

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:48 am
by Mikey Brown
It doesn't seem to be a prerequisite of being an international scrumhalf anymore, just look at Youngs. I agree with the above saying he's actually pretty good when he finally feels the need to put some pace in the game. On the few occasions he gets benched he does it, or on those occasions where we wait just long enough for a game to be just out of sight before getting our act together and going the length of the pitch.

I still rate him more than Pyrgos, particularly off the bench, and would keep him in that role for the foreseeable. It would piss him off being on the bench and it would offer another goal kicking/leadership option late in the game.

Re: Lions

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:54 am
by Which Tyler
Grieg should never have moved to Glos - 4 years ago he was probably the best SH in GB&I, and it was a genuine mystery as to why Gatland didn't take him. Now... it's a genuine mystery as to why he is there this time.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:02 am
by wanderingjock
What's going on

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:12 am
by wanderingjock
If gatland had picked a decent squad and actually coached well, the lions would not be panicking now given they have an extra man.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:29 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
Anyone see Fitzpatrick turn around and try to shoo away the lions fans when the cameras were rolling? WTF.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:39 am
by wanderingjock
Nope

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:39 am
by wanderingjock
Have any if our lot actually played near to or it of our skins?

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:42 am
by wanderingjock
Have any if our lot actually played near to or it of our skins?
Connor Murray lucky

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:43 am
by wanderingjock
Have any if our lot actually played near to or it of our skins?
Connor Murray lucky

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:43 am
by wanderingjock
Thought you'd like that Greg, given you don't like lions fans either

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:47 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
wanderingjock wrote:Nope
Sky coverage first thing after half time - Ferris (I think) chatting away, lions fans cheering and waving behind the box. Fitzpatrick with a sour look on his face turns around shooing them with his hand. Facing away from the camera for a good few seconds on live TV!

Everyone here knows I don't support the Lions but trying to discourage fans from having a laugh at a rugby game. What next?

It was only a few secs but really rustled my jimmies.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:48 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
wanderingjock wrote:Have any if our lot actually played near to or it of our skins?
We're not playing pal. Just the Irish, Welsh & English today.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:53 am
by wanderingjock
WE are playing, irrespective of whether I like the selection or not. You don't get that, the lions are not the jocks

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:01 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
wanderingjock wrote:WE are playing, irrespective of whether I like the selection or not. You don't get that, the lions are not the jocks
Scotland isn't part of the Lions. Not really anyway. You don't seem to get that.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:18 am
by wanderingjock
Ask someone who has played for them. I guess to win a lions series, or at least compete, and get selected on merit, without fifty fifty, you have to be on top of your game. A few have been selected wrongly, by the by. On match day I like the lions.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:22 am
by wanderingjock
Ask someone who has played for them. I guess to win a lions series, or at least compete, and get selected on merit, without fifty fifty, you have to be on top of your game. A few have been selected wrongly, by the by. On match day I like the lions.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:24 am
by wanderingjock
Embarrassing though

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:34 am
by ARM
Well that was far from meh...

Great viewing in the last 15. A hell of a lot to do at Eden Park but should be a great finale.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:38 am
by switchskier
They won't win at Eden park but it's great that it's not a meaningless game. Lots to work on though to keep things competitive, particularly discipline. Surely vunipola can't start again?

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:49 am
by Cameo
Sets it up nicely for next week but cant help thinking they were gifted that by Garces. From minute one he was giving very harsh penalties against NZ. If SBW's was a red, I dont see how Vunipola's wasn't. SBW was at least allowed to go for the tackle, Vunipola's was just a cheapshot

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:33 am
by Donny osmond
Great stuff from our lads, really hung in there despite doing their best to give it away via penalties. Most un-kiwi like performance I've seen in years from the ABs, kicking away possession twice in the last 90 seconds, hardly used possession to gain ground at all, albeit with a nod to conditions and the red card but even so, I think the ABs will be hard on themselves at training next week. Still can't see us winning the series but still, we've a chance, and a result that lets me laugh at Greig for being such a sour-puss, double boom!

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:01 pm
by Big D
Good win in tricky conditions and given how big a game it was for the Lions.

SBW was an idiot and Gatland should have hooked Vunipola way earlier.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:14 pm
by Adder
Cameo wrote:Sets it up nicely for next week but cant help thinking they were gifted that by Garces. From minute one he was giving very harsh penalties against NZ. If SBW's was a red, I dont see how Vunipola's wasn't. SBW was at least allowed to go for the tackle, Vunipola's was just a cheapshot
I've finaly caught the Vunipola incident I think the incident wasn't as bad and a yellow was fine. Don't understand the penalty for Sinklers jump. And what about his reaction....