True - the Samoans have better individuals playing at higher levels though (maybe not in this game due to bans but throughout the squad fur sure). The japs play like a cohesive, well-oiled team who know exactly what their fellow player is going to do. That's the main difference imo.switchskier wrote:Given the size of Samoa and their resources I find it quite easy to root for them. They'll pretty much always be underdogs.hugh_woatmeigh wrote:I can't support Samoa even if it knocks us out in the process. Japan are impossible to dislike.
This is shaping up as a fun game though
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Game over for Samoa surely. That's a yellow bare minimum.
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WTF are the Samoan coaching team protesting about? That's a clear yellow.
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Maitland is going to have his hands full with Matushima. Do you think we need the 13 to rush up and cut off the pass or slide and trust one of our better defenders?
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If Nanai-Williams fails that HIA 10 mins after the actual event happened that is not going to look good...
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Just to check if I have my maths right...
If Samoa win, they go into the Ireland game knowing that a win almost certainly sees them through?
If Samoa win, they go into the Ireland game knowing that a win almost certainly sees them through?
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If this Japan shows up v us I'll be happy. You can bet your house that the team that beat Ireland is the one that shows up though.
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I think so. They'd have two wins (this game and Russia), Ireland would have two (us and Russia), Japan would have two (Ireland and Russia) and we may have two (Samoa and Russia). So if Samoa win this (still a big ask) and then beat Ireland the result of us against Japan wouldn't make a difference to them. Right?General Zod wrote:Just to check if I have my maths right...
If Samoa win, they go into the Ireland game knowing that a win almost certainly sees them through?
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Samoa have absolutely nothing to concern Ireland with anyway.
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They don't look at all like scoring today and Ireland win this sort of game handily.hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Samoa have absolutely nothing to concern Ireland with anyway.
Try time. Just need Samoa to hold out now for the final 25 minutes.
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Complete waste of dominance in the 22 from Samoa there.
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The sort of thing we'd do.
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Brainless play from Samoa. Why does Fidow just run in a straight line along the touch line into 3 Japanese defenders? It's not even a percentage play, the correct option 100% of the time is to cut back inside.
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Any chance of Samoa holding out and denying them the TBP?
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This is a fix.
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Thanks Samoa. Scrum 5....
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We'll see how we look against Russia but if we limp past them it's not looking good. Japan are hitting their straps now.
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Time to poop the party.
That’s probably a Japanese game show.
That’s probably a Japanese game show.
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Samoan decision making makes our lot look like a team of Einstein's. Not just the scrum, they make dumb as fuck decisions right through the game. Anyway, this is playing out exactly as we all thought after the Ireland game.
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So, we need
1 - 5 point win v Russia, and
2 - A 4-try win against Japan, and
3 - Stop Japan from picking up 2 bonus points by finishing within 7 of us and getting 4 tries themselves.
There are other combinations involving Ireland and Samoa, but I’m pretty sure that’s it.
1 - 5 point win v Russia, and
2 - A 4-try win against Japan, and
3 - Stop Japan from picking up 2 bonus points by finishing within 7 of us and getting 4 tries themselves.
There are other combinations involving Ireland and Samoa, but I’m pretty sure that’s it.
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Pretty sure we 'just' need to beat Russia with a TBP and then beat Japan without them getting a BP.General Zod wrote:So, we need
1 - 5 point win v Russia, and
2 - A 4-try win against Japan, and
3 - Stop Japan from picking up 2 bonus points by finishing within 7 of us and getting 4 tries themselves.
There are other combinations involving Ireland and Samoa, but I’m pretty sure that’s it.
If they get a BP, we need one for 4 tries. If they get 2 BPs we're out whatever happens.
If teams are level on points, then whoever wins the head to head goes through as the first tie-breaker.
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Oh yeah, that too. I wasn’t very polite to the samoans when I was watching. Accusing them of match-fixing.laribold wrote:Pretty sure we 'just' need to beat Russia with a TBP and then beat Japan without them getting a BP.General Zod wrote:So, we need
1 - 5 point win v Russia, and
2 - A 4-try win against Japan, and
3 - Stop Japan from picking up 2 bonus points by finishing within 7 of us and getting 4 tries themselves.
There are other combinations involving Ireland and Samoa, but I’m pretty sure that’s it.
If they get a BP, we need one for 4 tries. If they get 2 BPs we're out whatever happens.
If teams are level on points, then whoever wins the head to head goes through as the first tie-breaker.
Japanese got away with a couple of high-looking tackles there - we’re just going to have to accept that and see where we get to. Japan v South Africa would be great for world rugby’s marketing team.
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Samoan decisions weren't great, but can't fault them for wanting to play on - that's their world cup over. But penalising a crooked feed ffs, is Jaco Peyper from the past?