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Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:

Banquo wrote: Cancelling them is daft, wrecks the whole league dynamic. Even for us, it is important in that it determines who we/France play. I understand though that if the match starts but is abandoned then its 2 points apiece.

Does the rescheduled match see any crowd turning up? Who gets tickets, is any travel laid on, how does it impact security arrangements, what does it do to commercial arrangements, what happens to accommodation for fans and the teams?

Basically I'd understand them cancelling over trying to reschedule, though one might want a word with however picked a country to host during typhoon season

despite the impact on the tournament? So you'd also cancel the final?

The arrangements are certainly possible, as they are for any postponed cup game, as I believe we saw in the European Cup. Hardly beyond the wit of man. To your last point, you'd have a contigency plan- its a two day window for the final, for example. I'm reasonably sure Scots fans (say) would happily make do and mend, rather than exiting the tournament under these conditions.

Raggs wrote:Pool games had different rules to knockouts with regards to bad weather etc. Knockouts have to be played.

Digby wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:
Does the rescheduled match see any crowd turning up? Who gets tickets, is any travel laid on, how does it impact security arrangements, what does it do to commercial arrangements, what happens to accommodation for fans and the teams?

Basically I'd understand them cancelling over trying to reschedule, though one might want a word with however picked a country to host during typhoon season

despite the impact on the tournament? So you'd also cancel the final?

The arrangements are certainly possible, as they are for any postponed cup game, as I believe we saw in the European Cup. Hardly beyond the wit of man. To your last point, you'd have a contigency plan- its a two day window for the final, for example. I'm reasonably sure Scots fans (say) would happily make do and mend, rather than exiting the tournament under these conditions.

For security reasons sure. I wouldn't expect the police arrange a big game on the fly, or we can stop claiming we need to have all the security considerations. Though yes in the case of the final I'd expect more of a plan B and plan C than for a group game

Banquo wrote:

Raggs wrote:Pool games had different rules to knockouts with regards to bad weather etc. Knockouts have to be played.

I read they had a window for rearrangement. Also read that the final only had a two day window and then decided on a 7 point criteria system.

Danno wrote:Press conference on it tomorrow, which will presumably be to announce the final decision

Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:

Banquo wrote: despite the impact on the tournament? So you'd also cancel the final?

The arrangements are certainly possible, as they are for any postponed cup game, as I believe we saw in the European Cup. Hardly beyond the wit of man. To your last point, you'd have a contigency plan- its a two day window for the final, for example. I'm reasonably sure Scots fans (say) would happily make do and mend, rather than exiting the tournament under these conditions.

For security reasons sure. I wouldn't expect the police arrange a big game on the fly, or we can stop claiming we need to have all the security considerations. Though yes in the case of the final I'd expect more of a plan B and plan C than for a group game

Ok, and what are your specific security concerns?

I hear all options are being weighed up- move,postpone, cancel.

Banquo wrote:word is the games will be called off. Not sure yet of the implications. Be a terrible way for Scotland to exit.

Mellsblue wrote:Daily Mail exclusive that it will definitely be called off and Scotland v Japan postponed until Monday.

Digby wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:
For security reasons sure. I wouldn't expect the police arrange a big game on the fly, or we can stop claiming we need to have all the security considerations. Though yes in the case of the final I'd expect more of a plan B and plan C than for a group game

Ok, and what are your specific security concerns?

I hear all options are being weighed up- move,postpone, cancel.

I wouldn't care to comment on security concerns, but I'd accept there might be some, playing any matches moved behind closed doors would help reduce any concerns.

Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:

Banquo wrote:
Ok, and what are your specific security concerns?

I hear all options are being weighed up- move,postpone, cancel.

I wouldn't care to comment on security concerns, but I'd accept there might be some, playing any matches moved behind closed doors would help reduce any concerns.

glad that’s sorted then....

Which Tyler wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:Daily Mail exclusive that it will definitely be called off and Scotland v Japan postponed until Monday.

Exclusively shared with the Mirror, the Express the Sun, and Rugbyrama - 12 hours before the decision is due...

Mellsblue wrote:

Which Tyler wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:Daily Mail exclusive that it will definitely be called off and Scotland v Japan postponed until Monday.

Exclusively shared with the Mirror, the Express the Sun, and Rugbyrama - 12 hours before the decision is due...

Are you suggesting that the Daily Mail aren’t being wholly truthful?!?!?
The decision may well have already been made. It is only being announced at a press conference tomorrow.

Scrumhead wrote:Acceleration and speed are two different things. Easter had the former, less of the latter, but Stom is right, with more application and work rate, he really could have been top class.

Your ‘gold standard’ for an 8 is good, but how many of the 8s currently playing at the World Cup tick all those boxes? Sergio Parisse might have done at his peak, but that was some time ago. Duane Vermeulen is up there, but I wouldn’t have described him as a ‘prominent lineout target’.

Arguably the best 8 of the last 6/7yrs has been Kieran Read and I’d argue that his strengths are largely different to those you’ve described. While he’s definitely a top lineout forward, even at his peak, I wouldn’t necessarily have classed him as being particularly powerful or explosive. His best assets are his intelligence and game sense - making the right decisions almost all the time whether that’s picking a great line or choosing when to offload or when to pass or carry.

For me, that’s the main differentiator for a truly top class 8 over those that rely on power and athleticism. Dallaglio had it which allowed him to stay at the top even when he was dropping off physically.

Renniks wrote:The cynic in me would be suggesting Japan know they have to cancel England's game to be able to cancel their game (to reach the QF) without it being called a fix, but I'm sure that isn't the case… Right?

Digby wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:
I wouldn't care to comment on security concerns, but I'd accept there might be some, playing any matches moved behind closed doors would help reduce any concerns.

glad that’s sorted then....

I work in fintech, it'd be something of a stretch even for me to claim any expertise. But all modern events as large as this do have big security concerns, so either that's a waste of time, or there are some issues there

Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:

Banquo wrote: glad that’s sorted then....

I work in fintech, it'd be something of a stretch even for me to claim any expertise. But all modern events as large as this do have big security concerns, so either that's a waste of time, or there are some issues there

Sounds fishy.