RugbyRebels

Lol,

It's not about the rugby world revolving around Scottish rugby. Only an utter prick would assume people that are pissed off with repeated Lions snubs would think that.

The utterly dire Scottish teams of the 60s&70s, the abject Welsh team of the 80s or the Irish in the mid 90s, had far better representation in Lions squads than Scotland have had over the past 20 years.

I'm tired of hearing Scots fans excusing Lions management selections tour after tour as being "management style". There comes a point where you have to accept that Scots players are simply not viewed as being Lions material. Doesn't matter if its style, size or skill that's the deciding factor, doesn't matter if its a conscious, or more likely an unconscious bias, it's still a bias.

It stopped being funny some time ago.

I can think of half a dozen Scots players at least as deserving of a squad slot this time out as any other nations players, tho I think Launchbury was hardest done by of any 6N player. (Watson & Dunbar not far behind).

Doesn't matter either if you admit it or not, the facts of the last 20 years speak for themselves. When there's a close choice, the coach picks the non Scot. Unless we're so bad we've been gifted a player or two each tour to ensure it's still nominally the British and Irish Lions and the SRU gets its share of the loot.

If you think that, what sort of Scottish rugby fan are you at all? Hanging on to the coat tails of your betters?

As John Beattie diplomatically said today. The Lions are like a party the Scots don't get invited to.

Time to concentrate on our own party.

Aye, none of you are wrong.

As HP pointed out, fuds are going to fud and it's going to collateral everyone in the middle.

It's hard to disagree with any of that Al, but I'm not going to support NZ because of it, not because I like hanging off the coat tails of my betters, but because I'm not 12.

hp18 wrote:Fuds act like fuds but if their viewpoint matches others then ....

they write for Wales Online.

Off to the pub. Pickleback for every try.

So about the actual game. Liz might know this, have the lions ever won a final test.

To the haters, start your own thread.


To baz,, you stink

Gh hardy, and stiff the miserably sad

It is never worth a first-class man's time to express a majority opinion. By definition, there are plenty of others to do that.

OptimisticJock wrote:

Edinburgh in Exile wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote:Forget macho Greig. Have you had a pickleback where you are?

Fucking right mate, sounded rank when it was explained to me. Dangerously easy to drink.

Been laying into the Poutine on the stagger back from the pub as well. How's the weather treating you over there?

Not overly fussed with the poutine tbh. Not proper chips innit.

Weather is excellent over here, at least mid 20s every day. In Tofino just now before heading back to Vancouver.

Recced a pub for tomorrow night too.

How cool are the 2 dollar bits? Currency with a polar bear on it. Quality.

Never realised baz had a potty mouth. Cunt.

wanderingjock wrote:So about the actual game. Liz might know this, have the lions ever won a final test.

To the haters, start your own thread.


To baz,, you stink

They've won the last two final tests on Lions tours?

Some passage of play that was.

Big D wrote:

wanderingjock wrote:So about the actual game. Liz might know this, have the lions ever won a final test.

To the haters, start your own thread.


To baz,, you stink

They've won the last two final tests on Lions tours?

Odd for someone who hates the concept to bite at that

wanderingjock wrote:

Big D wrote:

wanderingjock wrote:So about the actual game. Liz might know this, have the lions ever won a final test.

To the haters, start your own thread.


To baz,, you stink

They've won the last two final tests on Lions tours?

Odd for someone who hates the concept to bite at that

Eh? At what point have I ever been against the Lions?

Despite Farrell playing terribly and not defending the cross kicks the Lions have started pretty well.

Farrell continues to have a shocker. Decent idea to take the tap but awful pass.

Edinburgh in Exile wrote:Aye, none of you are wrong.

As HP pointed out, fuds are going to fud and it's going to collateral everyone in the middle.

It's hard to disagree with any of that Al, but I'm not going to support NZ because of it, not because I like hanging off the coat tails of my betters, but because I'm not 12.

I was probably taller than you are at 12. The more you know...

Lucky to be within 6. Some mighty shifts going in but some poor performances so far.

Daly is pretty good off the tee. Beauty.

3 match test series comes down to the next 17mins of rugby

Well that's a bit of a weird ending to the series. No real glory for either side in a tie.

Surprised there aren't more casualties in that game. Brutal at times.

Can't see how that is not a penalty. Just looked like he massively bottled it. I dont think he is allowed to go to the TMO but saw it as his only way out even though it confirmed what he had seen previously.

I'd be all up for changing that rule so if it is just instinct it is just a free kick but that is not how it has been reffed ever

Edinburgh in Exile wrote:Aye, none of you are wrong.

As HP pointed out, fuds are going to fud and it's going to collateral everyone in the middle.

It's hard to disagree with any of that Al, but I'm not going to support NZ because of it, not because I like hanging off the coat tails of my betters, but because I'm not 12.

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Cameo wrote:Can't see how that is not a penalty. Just looked like he massively bottled it. I dont think he is allowed to go to the TMO but saw it as his only way out even though it confirmed what he had seen previously.

I'd be all up for changing that rule so if it is just instinct it is just a free kick but that is not how it has been reffed ever

I think it's covered within 11.6. Given how close he was he could not have avoided the ball. A reflex reaction to catch it doesn't change that for me. The player could not have avoided that ball.

Big D wrote:

wanderingjock wrote:

Big D wrote: They've won the last two final tests on Lions tours?

Odd for someone who hates the concept to bite at that

Eh? At what point have I ever been against the Lions?

Apologies. And many.


I got confused between n big al and big d.

Big D wrote:

Cameo wrote:Can't see how that is not a penalty. Just looked like he massively bottled it. I dont think he is allowed to go to the TMO but saw it as his only way out even though it confirmed what he had seen previously.

I'd be all up for changing that rule so if it is just instinct it is just a free kick but that is not how it has been reffed ever

I think it's covered within 11.6. Given how close he was he could not have avoided the ball. A reflex reaction to catch it doesn't change that for me. The player could not have avoided that ball.

I would be fine with it being interpreted that way if it ever was. That is given as a penalty every time though. It's not like it fire into his midrift and just stuck. I dont like talking about refs so will probs stop now but I think that call (and especially the way that it was made) was pretty outrageous. On the Joubert one in the WC I felt for him as it came down to whether Phipps had played at the ball in a split second. This one is just a penalty and nothing changed on second viewing except the importance of it got to him.

Incidentally, they really need to clear up when you can go to the TMO. If then, why not for the Lions penalty just before to see whether he really wasnt rolling away or whether he was being held. Choose some protocols and stick to them.

wanderingjock wrote:

Big D wrote:

wanderingjock wrote: Odd for someone who hates the concept to bite at that

Eh? At what point have I ever been against the Lions?

Apologies. And many.


I got confused between n big al and big d.

No worries. Sure now we don't need to worry about the Lions for 3.5 years when it will have been 12 years since a losing series. 1st time in my lifetime they've not lost one after winning one.