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It's been shite. Not as shite as the weegies but shite aye

A bit.

OptimisticJock wrote:It's been shite. Not as shite as the weegies but shite aye

Had a quick look at their fred, it was all covered in Greg... didn't make eye contact... backed out slowly.

I wish I hadn't told the burd I'd pick her up. At least it would be shite with drink.

Edinburgh in Exile wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote:It's been shite. Not as shite as the weegies but shite aye

Had a quick look at their fred, it was all covered in Greg... didn't make eye contact... backed out slowly.

OptimisticJock wrote:I wish I hadn't told the burd I'd pick her up. At least it would be shite with drink.

Rugby miles mate, it's a good move, don't blow a chance to garner points on your rugby miles card with the missus on a crap Friday night Pro12 game. Not when we've got France on the Sunday, and you are left trying to explain how an 80 minute game seems to have taken up your entire weekend.

Edinburgh in Exile wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote:I wish I hadn't told the burd I'd pick her up. At least it would be shite with drink.

Rugby miles mate, it's a good move, don't blow a chance to garner points on your rugby miles card with the missus on a crap Friday night Pro12 game. Not when we've got France on the Sunday, and you are left trying to explain how an 80 minute game seems to have taken up your entire weekend.

Thats a fair point.

Fuck you nige

OptimisticJock wrote:It's been shite. Not as shite as the weegies but shite aye

The weegies have provided 12 players to Scotland.

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote:It's been shite. Not as shite as the weegies but shite aye

The weegies have provided 12 players to Scotland.

They were still shite.

Bits of Edinburgh's attacking play looked ok but the kicking game was truly awful. It seemed like every kick was perfect for an Ulster player to run onto and catch unnopposed.

Bennett joins Edinburgh. I'm sure Edinburgh fans will be delighted but a terrible move for Scotland IMO. Mark has the potential to be world class and he won't get that development at Edinburgh.

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Bennett joins Edinburgh. I'm sure Edinburgh fans will be delighted but a terrible move for Scotland IMO. Mark has the potential to be world class and he won't get that development at Edinburgh.

And the flip side to your outrage coin is that, with Jones joining Glasgow, Bennet will be pretty much guaranteed game time at 'burgh. It will hopefully strengthen Edinburgh as a team, which benefits Scottish rugby. He also stays in the framework of the SRU rather than heading back to France where he may not be released for international duty, will get the SRU medical treatment rather than it being undertaken by club etc..

I agree the model might not be perfect but with only 2 pro teams why not try and balance them out as much as possible to benefit everyone involved, players, supporters, management etc.

sharvey44 wrote:

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Bennett joins Edinburgh. I'm sure Edinburgh fans will be delighted but a terrible move for Scotland IMO. Mark has the potential to be world class and he won't get that development at Edinburgh.

And the flip side to your outrage coin is that, with Jones joining Glasgow, Bennet will be pretty much guaranteed game time at 'burgh. It will hopefully strengthen Edinburgh as a team, which benefits Scottish rugby. He also stays in the framework of the SRU rather than heading back to France where he may not be released for international duty, will get the SRU medical treatment rather than it being undertaken by club etc..

I agree the model might not be perfect but with only 2 pro teams why not try and balance them out as much as possible to benefit everyone involved, players, supporters, management etc.

It really depends what was on offer. Not heard any recent rumours of who was after him except Newcastle.

He will be given more responsibility too which will do no harm.

If it was a choice between the likes of Newcastle and Edinburgh then Edinburgh is the right choice. Edinburgh really need more signings though. And a coach.

sharvey44 wrote:

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Bennett joins Edinburgh. I'm sure Edinburgh fans will be delighted but a terrible move for Scotland IMO. Mark has the potential to be world class and he won't get that development at Edinburgh.

And the flip side to your outrage coin is that, with Jones joining Glasgow, Bennet will be pretty much guaranteed game time at 'burgh. It will hopefully strengthen Edinburgh as a team, which benefits Scottish rugby. He also stays in the framework of the SRU rather than heading back to France where he may not be released for international duty, will get the SRU medical treatment rather than it being undertaken by club etc..

I agree the model might not be perfect but with only 2 pro teams why not try and balance them out as much as possible to benefit everyone involved, players, supporters, management etc.

I think you're missing the point. Good for Edinburgh does not mean good for Bennett's development. I honestly, genuinely think Bennett can be one of the best 13s in the world (he's only just turned 24). Who was the last top class player Edinburgh truly developed? i now have doubts about him reaching that potential because of this move. We don't even know who the coaching team will be ffs.

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:

sharvey44 wrote:

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Bennett joins Edinburgh. I'm sure Edinburgh fans will be delighted but a terrible move for Scotland IMO. Mark has the potential to be world class and he won't get that development at Edinburgh.

And the flip side to your outrage coin is that, with Jones joining Glasgow, Bennet will be pretty much guaranteed game time at 'burgh. It will hopefully strengthen Edinburgh as a team, which benefits Scottish rugby. He also stays in the framework of the SRU rather than heading back to France where he may not be released for international duty, will get the SRU medical treatment rather than it being undertaken by club etc..

I agree the model might not be perfect but with only 2 pro teams why not try and balance them out as much as possible to benefit everyone involved, players, supporters, management etc.

I think you're missing the point. Good for Edinburgh does not mean good for Bennett's development. I honestly, genuinely think Bennett can be one of the best 13s in the world (he's only just turned 24). Who was the last top class player Edinburgh truly developed? i now have doubts about him reaching that potential because of this move. We don't even know who the coaching team will be ffs.

Ok. I'm going to bite. Please list a couple of clubs in the AP where he would see better development.

Sarries? Fighting it out with Super Dunc and Bosch
Bath? Will he get picked over JJ?
Glos? Competing with Scott?
Waps? Picked before Daly?
Quins? Maybe but they are fairly poor this season, they got done twice by Edinburgh FFS!

Would moving to an Irish/Welsh/Italian team see him get this fantastic development you think could happen?

I dont disagree the coaching at Edinburgh is a shambles currently but as has been pointed out there are benefits to staying under the SRU umbrella. It might bring some maturity to his game being seen as a senior player there, mentoring the young guys.

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:

sharvey44 wrote:

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Bennett joins Edinburgh. I'm sure Edinburgh fans will be delighted but a terrible move for Scotland IMO. Mark has the potential to be world class and he won't get that development at Edinburgh.

And the flip side to your outrage coin is that, with Jones joining Glasgow, Bennet will be pretty much guaranteed game time at 'burgh. It will hopefully strengthen Edinburgh as a team, which benefits Scottish rugby. He also stays in the framework of the SRU rather than heading back to France where he may not be released for international duty, will get the SRU medical treatment rather than it being undertaken by club etc..

I agree the model might not be perfect but with only 2 pro teams why not try and balance them out as much as possible to benefit everyone involved, players, supporters, management etc.

I think you're missing the point. Good for Edinburgh does not mean good for Bennett's development. I honestly, genuinely think Bennett can be one of the best 13s in the world (he's only just turned 24). Who was the last top class player Edinburgh truly developed? i now have doubts about him reaching that potential because of this move. We don't even know who the coaching team will be ffs.

Emba can't win with you though mate, if we don't sign good players you shite on about our terrible squad contributing fuck all to Scotland, if we do, it's a terrible move for the player because Emra are shite.

ad infinitum ad nauseum

Edinburgh in Exile wrote:

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:

sharvey44 wrote:
And the flip side to your outrage coin is that, with Jones joining Glasgow, Bennet will be pretty much guaranteed game time at 'burgh. It will hopefully strengthen Edinburgh as a team, which benefits Scottish rugby. He also stays in the framework of the SRU rather than heading back to France where he may not be released for international duty, will get the SRU medical treatment rather than it being undertaken by club etc..

I agree the model might not be perfect but with only 2 pro teams why not try and balance them out as much as possible to benefit everyone involved, players, supporters, management etc.

I think you're missing the point. Good for Edinburgh does not mean good for Bennett's development. I honestly, genuinely think Bennett can be one of the best 13s in the world (he's only just turned 24). Who was the last top class player Edinburgh truly developed? i now have doubts about him reaching that potential because of this move. We don't even know who the coaching team will be ffs.

Emba can't win with you though mate, if we don't sign good players you shite on about our terrible squad contributing fuck all to Scotland, if we do, it's a terrible move for the player because Emra are shite.

ad infinitum ad nauseum

Emra are shite

Some random on the Scottish rugby blog mentioned Johan Ackermann as a candidate. Someone has been on the wacky backy.

Would be a good appointment though

Do Edinburgh just not sign people or do they just not announce it?

Cameo wrote:Do Edinburgh just not sign people or do they just not announce it?

Possibly a question for those in the SRU responsible for player acquisition. I've been told that my perception that it was all Petries fault is wrong and he is only partly to blame.

Just saw Bennett is going there which is a very good signing to be fair. Need a few more though (and a coach)

That is an absolutely brilliant signing for Edinburgh, not sure it is good for him though.

How much would he be on? Who else tried to get him? Is he in the dog house from going to the Olympics over the tour? IS there something going on in the background that we dont know about (new coach etc, why tf would he go there...)??

.....If only we had someone to get the ball to him.....

Great signing for Edinburgh ad it improves the team which is what every signing should do.

Let's not prejudge next season too early. Weir, Dean, Bennett is not the Glasgow backline but it does contain some of the same elements. Kinghorn will still be a threat at 15 and Hoyland does have try scoring potential on the wing. A new coach and a proper preseason where the pack and backs learn to play together and it could be top 6 and something to build on. Next signing I want to see is Mike Blair to work with the scrum halves.

Big D wrote:

Cameo wrote:Do Edinburgh just not sign people or do they just not announce it?

Possibly a question for those in the SRU responsible for player acquisition. I've been told that my perception that it was all Petries fault is wrong and he is only partly to blame.

Petrie appears to be out of his depth whatever way you look at it. Big fish, small pond very different from senior management in a big organisation.

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:

Big D wrote:

Cameo wrote:Do Edinburgh just not sign people or do they just not announce it?

Possibly a question for those in the SRU responsible for player acquisition. I've been told that my perception that it was all Petries fault is wrong and he is only partly to blame.

Petrie appears to be out of his depth whatever way you look at it. Big fish, small pond very different from senior management in a big organisation.

It really depends what his remit re coaching appointments and player recruitment is.It's notable that when Rennie was announced the Glasgow CEOs name was barely mentioned (if at all) and it was Dodson that did all the press.

If he has minimal say it is hard to be too critical of him because johnson and dodson hold the sway. If he is responsible for taking options to those two and they are knocking it back its not all his fault. If he is to take options to them and he isn't or their of poor quality then he is to blame.

His remit could just be purely off the field stuff like the move to Myreside which seems to have started well.

The CE position for weeg and embra is a strange one as Johnson is effectively DoR for both sides.

Johnsons job description clearly states player acquisition and contracting are his responsibility.