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Vlad has domestic issues now
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paddy no 11 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:11 pm Vlad has domestic issues now
I bet it will be Ukraine's fault
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Sandydragon wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:08 am
paddy no 11 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:11 pm Vlad has domestic issues now
I bet it will be Ukraine's fault
Erm.......with CIA input perhaps
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paddy no 11 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 4:35 pm
Sandydragon wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:08 am
paddy no 11 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:11 pm Vlad has domestic issues now
I bet it will be Ukraine's fault
Erm.......with CIA input perhaps
Totally.
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Zhivago wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:02 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:35 pm
Zhivago wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:15 am Some Russians just seem to have the urge to genocide, even on an individual level.

https://www.rundschau-online.de/welt/ho ... hme-759394
Let's be careful here. All countries have their evil, murdering bastards. Russia does, so does the UK and any other country you care to mention.
Some have more than others. Some cultures produce more evil doers than others. Russia has no shortage of people ready to commit evil.
https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/ ... 76db7c69ab

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"Ukraine has that right to use the weapons provided by London to strike targets inside Russia. Just as Russia is striking inside Ukraine, you can quite understand why Ukraine feels the need to make sure it's defending itself", - David Cameron

Finally some sense.

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Zhivago wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:27 am "Ukraine has that right to use the weapons provided by London to strike targets inside Russia. Just as Russia is striking inside Ukraine, you can quite understand why Ukraine feels the need to make sure it's defending itself", - David Cameron

Finally some sense.
Is that a change in policy or just a clarification?
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Son of Mathonwy wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 11:18 am
Zhivago wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:27 am "Ukraine has that right to use the weapons provided by London to strike targets inside Russia. Just as Russia is striking inside Ukraine, you can quite understand why Ukraine feels the need to make sure it's defending itself", - David Cameron

Finally some sense.
Is that a change in policy or just a clarification?
I would say it is a change.

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Zhivago wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 7:25 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 11:18 am
Zhivago wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:27 am "Ukraine has that right to use the weapons provided by London to strike targets inside Russia. Just as Russia is striking inside Ukraine, you can quite understand why Ukraine feels the need to make sure it's defending itself", - David Cameron

Finally some sense.
Is that a change in policy or just a clarification?
I would say it is a change.
Definite change. UK was very cagey about striking targets inside Russia with British weapons before.
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Sandydragon wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 6:15 pm
Zhivago wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 7:25 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 11:18 am
Is that a change in policy or just a clarification?
I would say it is a change.
Definite change. UK was very cagey about striking targets inside Russia with British weapons before.
And Russia has done nothing. We need to realise that they're the barking dog.

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Zhivago wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 8:56 pm
Sandydragon wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 6:15 pm
Zhivago wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 7:25 pm

I would say it is a change.
Definite change. UK was very cagey about striking targets inside Russia with British weapons before.
And Russia has done nothing. We need to realise that they're the barking dog.
agreed. Allowing Putin to win under the threat of nuclear annihilation makes it very hard to stand up to him in the future. Russia started this fight, I have no issue with allowing Ukraine to win without undue constraints being placed on how weapons are used (noting the need for keeping to international law).
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Sandydragon wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 9:44 am
Zhivago wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 8:56 pm
Sandydragon wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 6:15 pm
Definite change. UK was very cagey about striking targets inside Russia with British weapons before.
And Russia has done nothing. We need to realise that they're the barking dog.
agreed. Allowing Putin to win under the threat of nuclear annihilation makes it very hard to stand up to him in the future. Russia started this fight, I have no issue with allowing Ukraine to win without undue constraints being placed on how weapons are used (noting the need for keeping to international law).
I think Macron has figured this out too. Took some time, but he seems to be getting there.

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Putin friendly Slovak PM shot

June elections are going to be tense
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Zhivago wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 6:36 pm
Sandydragon wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 9:44 am
Zhivago wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 8:56 pm

And Russia has done nothing. We need to realise that they're the barking dog.
agreed. Allowing Putin to win under the threat of nuclear annihilation makes it very hard to stand up to him in the future. Russia started this fight, I have no issue with allowing Ukraine to win without undue constraints being placed on how weapons are used (noting the need for keeping to international law).
I think Macron has figured this out too. Took some time, but he seems to be getting there.
Unfortunately, the rest of NATO will be reluctant to be too far ahead of the US, given that the King of Orange might do a 180 on Ukraine if elected in November. Sadly, the west is handing Putin a victory.
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paddy no 11 wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 3:29 pm Putin friendly Slovak PM shot

June elections are going to be tense
Just seen that on the news. Totally agree, its going to make the situation very tense and no doubt Putin's propagandists will be making a lot of hay.
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Sandydragon wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 4:00 pm
paddy no 11 wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 3:29 pm Putin friendly Slovak PM shot

June elections are going to be tense
Just seen that on the news. Totally agree, its going to make the situation very tense and no doubt Putin's propagandists will be making a lot of hay.
Putin and far right, shooter is alive. Is that good from a conspiracy perspective at least

A Google of this situation sends me to the murder of journalist jan kuciak
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71 year old shooter

My idle speculation are 1) lived through iron curtain era and says we're not going back under Russian control

2) specifically Ukraine related
3) specifically anti corruption (like kuciaks dad)
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Sandydragon wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 3:59 pm
Zhivago wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 6:36 pm
Sandydragon wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 9:44 am

agreed. Allowing Putin to win under the threat of nuclear annihilation makes it very hard to stand up to him in the future. Russia started this fight, I have no issue with allowing Ukraine to win without undue constraints being placed on how weapons are used (noting the need for keeping to international law).
I think Macron has figured this out too. Took some time, but he seems to be getting there.
Unfortunately, the rest of NATO will be reluctant to be too far ahead of the US, given that the King of Orange might do a 180 on Ukraine if elected in November. Sadly, the west is handing Putin a victory.
I must have been living too long in the Netherlands, I initially thought you meant the Dutch king for some reason.

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paddy no 11 wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 6:11 pm 71 year old shooter

My idle speculation are 1) lived through iron curtain era and says we're not going back under Russian control

2) specifically Ukraine related
3) specifically anti corruption (like kuciaks dad)
Wrong on all counts.

" Looks like Slovak PM Robert Fico's reported assailant, writer Juraj Cintula, was associated with pro-Russian paramilitary group Slovenskí Branci (SB)"

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Wow, not Russian enough for him
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Pretty crappy assassin to shoot someone 4 times and not kill him...

I think the lack of assassinations/attempted assassinations shows the lines oppositions are likely to take. And the oppositions are almost exclusively "not right", as I can't really call them exclusively left. It filters down to every single level.

If this guy shot him 4 times and did not manage to kill him AND was affiliated with Russia, I'm all aboard the conspiracy train here. People like Fico should be rounded up and put in the gulag. This will allow him and his cronies a chance to push through their policies on restricting the press and so on.
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It seems the shooter felt free speech was under attack at least according to his neighbour.

Worrying run into the European elections
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Not sure where to put this, so I'm putting it here for the time being, as it involves Russian (diplomatic) aggression.
https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/05/21/ ... altic-sea/
The Moscow Times: Russia unilaterally decides to redraw maritime borders with Lithuania and Finland in the Baltic Sea
Russian authorities have decided unilaterally to change the country’s maritime borders with Lithuania and Finland in the Baltic Sea, declaring new internal waters and adjusting geographical coordinates, according to a draft government decree published on the legal acts portal.
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Which Tyler wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 5:49 am Not sure where to put this, so I'm putting it here for the time being, as it involves Russian (diplomatic) aggression.
https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/05/21/ ... altic-sea/
The Moscow Times: Russia unilaterally decides to redraw maritime borders with Lithuania and Finland in the Baltic Sea
Russian authorities have decided unilaterally to change the country’s maritime borders with Lithuania and Finland in the Baltic Sea, declaring new internal waters and adjusting geographical coordinates, according to a draft government decree published on the legal acts portal.
Putin is at least consistent. Hes been doing this for well over a decade. I would like ot hope that most people have seen through his nonsense by now, but Im sure theres plenty who still think he is the good guy against the evil west.
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Time for NATO countries to sail some warships over Putin's new borders.
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