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Re: Transfer news, rumours, suggestions, frenzied speculation, and outright lies - Season 2023-24

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:41 pm
by FKAS
Puja wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:31 pm The post-Suaalii frenzy of league players' agents suggesting their clients could be the next union superstar has begun: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... i-england/

Hardly think that an imposing lump of muscle and speed with no union nous whatsoever is the solution to England's problems. Raw materials of athletes are things that we already have - it's the brains that are missing.

Puja
"Yorkshireman Young joined the Roosters on a four-year deal at the start of 2024"

So really is the agent just talking up his client for shits and giggles then. Google suggests he's on $Aus 500-550k as well so £255-280k range.

If there was one of those massive lads who can carry and offload then you'd imagine Chiefs or Quins might be interested on taking a punt in trying to find long term 12 solutions. Not sure they are going to compete with NRL though.

Re: Transfer news, rumours, suggestions, frenzied speculation, and outright lies - Season 2023-24

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:34 pm
by Puja
FKAS wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:41 pm
Puja wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:31 pm The post-Suaalii frenzy of league players' agents suggesting their clients could be the next union superstar has begun: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... i-england/

Hardly think that an imposing lump of muscle and speed with no union nous whatsoever is the solution to England's problems. Raw materials of athletes are things that we already have - it's the brains that are missing.

Puja
"Yorkshireman Young joined the Roosters on a four-year deal at the start of 2024"

So really is the agent just talking up his client for shits and giggles then. Google suggests he's on $Aus 500-550k as well so £255-280k range.

If there was one of those massive lads who can carry and offload then you'd imagine Chiefs or Quins might be interested on taking a punt in trying to find long term 12 solutions. Not sure they are going to compete with NRL though.
Combined with Torygraph finding clickbaity things (they even have a WOL style "Here's a fantasy list of league players who could play union!") to fill column inches that aren't already taken up by ZOMGLABOURAREGOINGTOKILLUSALL!

So not really worth mentioning, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

Puja

Re: Transfer news, rumours, suggestions, frenzied speculation, and outright lies - Season 2023-24

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:51 pm
by FKAS
Puja wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:34 pm
FKAS wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:41 pm
Puja wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:31 pm The post-Suaalii frenzy of league players' agents suggesting their clients could be the next union superstar has begun: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... i-england/

Hardly think that an imposing lump of muscle and speed with no union nous whatsoever is the solution to England's problems. Raw materials of athletes are things that we already have - it's the brains that are missing.

Puja
"Yorkshireman Young joined the Roosters on a four-year deal at the start of 2024"

So really is the agent just talking up his client for shits and giggles then. Google suggests he's on $Aus 500-550k as well so £255-280k range.

If there was one of those massive lads who can carry and offload then you'd imagine Chiefs or Quins might be interested on taking a punt in trying to find long term 12 solutions. Not sure they are going to compete with NRL though.
Combined with Torygraph finding clickbaity things (they even have a WOL style "Here's a fantasy list of league players who could play union!") to fill column inches that aren't already taken up by ZOMGLABOURAREGOINGTOKILLUSALL!

So not really worth mentioning, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

Puja
It's not a terrible idea. Just need to identify the talent whilst they are still in the UK and bring them in early. Ideally still as teenagers so they can finish their development in a union environment.

Re: Transfer news, rumours, suggestions, frenzied speculation, and outright lies - Season 2023-24

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 11:02 am
by Which Tyler
Bath's extension season has started, with Louie Hennessey signing a "long term" deal
https://www.bathrugby.com/content/henne ... bath-rugby

Re: Transfer news, rumours, suggestions, frenzied speculation, and outright lies - Season 2023-24

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:18 pm
by Tom Moore
FKAS wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:41 pm
Puja wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:31 pm The post-Suaalii frenzy of league players' agents suggesting their clients could be the next union superstar has begun: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... i-england/

Hardly think that an imposing lump of muscle and speed with no union nous whatsoever is the solution to England's problems. Raw materials of athletes are things that we already have - it's the brains that are missing.

Puja
"Yorkshireman Young joined the Roosters on a four-year deal at the start of 2024"

So really is the agent just talking up his client for shits and giggles then. Google suggests he's on $Aus 500-550k as well so £255-280k range.

If there was one of those massive lads who can carry and offload then you'd imagine Chiefs or Quins might be interested on taking a punt in trying to find long term 12 solutions. Not sure they are going to compete with NRL though.
For big carriers and off loaders you'd be looking at Pearce-Paul and Nsemba, both powerful and quickish. Pearce-Paul is probably the more rounded player at this stage. Nsemba isn't in the NRL so might be easier to get to wage wise. In terms of contracts Farnworth moved clubs at the start of 2024 too so is probably in the same position as Young in regards to cost. Welsby turned down potential NRL deals to stay at St Helens, so I would imagine he's on a decent length contract but relatively lower wages.

Re: Transfer news, rumours, suggestions, frenzied speculation, and outright lies - Season 2023-24

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:28 pm
by Mellsblue
My big takeaway from this is that PRL have managed to not only fall behind France, Scotland and Ireland in paying power but also one of two (I think) pro leagues in a sport that is popular in only Australia and the M62 corridor, and has virtually no presence internationally other than Oz supplying approx 92 international teams under various flags for their ’World’ Cup.

Re: Transfer news, rumours, suggestions, frenzied speculation, and outright lies - Season 2023-24

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:45 am
by Which Tyler
Which Tyler wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 11:02 am Bath's extension season has started, with Louie Hennessey signing a "long term" deal
https://www.bathrugby.com/content/henne ... bath-rugby
Vilikesa Sela next up
https://www.bathrugby.com/content/sela- ... bath-rugby

Re: Transfer news, rumours, suggestions, frenzied speculation, and outright lies - Season 2023-24

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:29 pm
by Big D
Tom Moore wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:18 pm
FKAS wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:41 pm
Puja wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:31 pm The post-Suaalii frenzy of league players' agents suggesting their clients could be the next union superstar has begun: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... i-england/

Hardly think that an imposing lump of muscle and speed with no union nous whatsoever is the solution to England's problems. Raw materials of athletes are things that we already have - it's the brains that are missing.

Puja
"Yorkshireman Young joined the Roosters on a four-year deal at the start of 2024"

So really is the agent just talking up his client for shits and giggles then. Google suggests he's on $Aus 500-550k as well so £255-280k range.

If there was one of those massive lads who can carry and offload then you'd imagine Chiefs or Quins might be interested on taking a punt in trying to find long term 12 solutions. Not sure they are going to compete with NRL though.
For big carriers and off loaders you'd be looking at Pearce-Paul and Nsemba, both powerful and quickish. Pearce-Paul is probably the more rounded player at this stage. Nsemba isn't in the NRL so might be easier to get to wage wise. In terms of contracts Farnworth moved clubs at the start of 2024 too so is probably in the same position as Young in regards to cost. Welsby turned down potential NRL deals to stay at St Helens, so I would imagine he's on a decent length contract but relatively lower wages.
Nsemba is part of the Wigan team that has just won everything last season so has the medals in his pocket from league too. Very raw but young and powerful.

Re: Transfer news, rumours, suggestions, frenzied speculation, and outright lies - Season 2023-24

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:29 pm
by Big D
jimKRFC wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:41 pm Bristol alledged to have made an offer to Tom Jordan (FH for Glasgow but played FB for Scotland yesterday), with a one year extension for AJ as well.
Seemingly a done deal.

Re: Transfer news, rumours, suggestions, frenzied speculation, and outright lies - Season 2023-24

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:31 pm
by FKAS
Big D wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:29 pm
Tom Moore wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:18 pm
FKAS wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:41 pm

"Yorkshireman Young joined the Roosters on a four-year deal at the start of 2024"

So really is the agent just talking up his client for shits and giggles then. Google suggests he's on $Aus 500-550k as well so £255-280k range.

If there was one of those massive lads who can carry and offload then you'd imagine Chiefs or Quins might be interested on taking a punt in trying to find long term 12 solutions. Not sure they are going to compete with NRL though.
For big carriers and off loaders you'd be looking at Pearce-Paul and Nsemba, both powerful and quickish. Pearce-Paul is probably the more rounded player at this stage. Nsemba isn't in the NRL so might be easier to get to wage wise. In terms of contracts Farnworth moved clubs at the start of 2024 too so is probably in the same position as Young in regards to cost. Welsby turned down potential NRL deals to stay at St Helens, so I would imagine he's on a decent length contract but relatively lower wages.
Nsemba is part of the Wigan team that has just won everything last season so has the medals in his pocket from league too. Very raw but young and powerful.
Contract until 2030. Clearly Wigan felt he might want a move as well.

Re: Transfer news, rumours, suggestions, frenzied speculation, and outright lies - Season 2023-24

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:24 pm
by jimKRFC
Big D wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:29 pm
jimKRFC wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:41 pm Bristol alledged to have made an offer to Tom Jordan (FH for Glasgow but played FB for Scotland yesterday), with a one year extension for AJ as well.
Seemingly a done deal.
Not just him, according to the Telegraph Bristol have signed Scotland fly-half Tom Jordan and Argentina lock Pedro Rubiolo

https://archive.ph/0CRQJ

Also on BBC now.

Re: Transfer news, rumours, suggestions, frenzied speculation, and outright lies - Season 2023-24

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:33 pm
by Big D
FKAS wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:31 pm
Big D wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:29 pm
Tom Moore wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:18 pm

For big carriers and off loaders you'd be looking at Pearce-Paul and Nsemba, both powerful and quickish. Pearce-Paul is probably the more rounded player at this stage. Nsemba isn't in the NRL so might be easier to get to wage wise. In terms of contracts Farnworth moved clubs at the start of 2024 too so is probably in the same position as Young in regards to cost. Welsby turned down potential NRL deals to stay at St Helens, so I would imagine he's on a decent length contract but relatively lower wages.
Nsemba is part of the Wigan team that has just won everything last season so has the medals in his pocket from league too. Very raw but young and powerful.
Contract until 2030. Clearly Wigan felt he might want a move as well.
IIRC Wigan have lost a few like Kai Peace Paul, Morgan Smithies and John Bateman (again) to the NRL over the last two years so can understand protecting themselves a little.

Re: Transfer news, rumours, suggestions, frenzied speculation, and outright lies - Season 2023-24

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:44 pm
by Tom Moore
Big D wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:33 pm
FKAS wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:31 pm
Big D wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:29 pm

Nsemba is part of the Wigan team that has just won everything last season so has the medals in his pocket from league too. Very raw but young and powerful.
Contract until 2030. Clearly Wigan felt he might want a move as well.
IIRC Wigan have lost a few like Kai Peace Paul, Morgan Smithies and John Bateman (again) to the NRL over the last two years so can understand protecting themselves a little.
Absolutely. I think they released Smithies and Bateman early, so potential to buy him out, but I'd imagine he'd cost a bit.

Re: Transfer news, rumours, suggestions, frenzied speculation, and outright lies - Season 2023-24

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:24 pm
by Big D
Tom Moore wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:44 pm
Big D wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:33 pm
FKAS wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:31 pm

Contract until 2030. Clearly Wigan felt he might want a move as well.
IIRC Wigan have lost a few like Kai Peace Paul, Morgan Smithies and John Bateman (again) to the NRL over the last two years so can understand protecting themselves a little.
Absolutely. I think they released Smithies and Bateman early, so potential to buy him out, but I'd imagine he'd cost a bit.
Yeah not 100% sure but think the NRL clubs have paid a fee at times for the likes of Tompkins, Smithies and Williams.

Makes absolute sense, so long as there are clauses to help the players wage go up as I doubt Nsemba is on big money right now.